Coach Stitt (Combined threads)

[catsack]

Feel free to say what you want, and I guess you can lock threads if you want, but your views are borderline nonsense. See below.

"What did you expect when:

He was left some but not a lot of talent. [UM had plenty of talent when Stitt arrived.]

Was left little to no OL talent. [UM had more then little to no o-line talent. Jeez, look who's going to start this year? How many Stitt recruits? One? Any more? If a team has no o-line talent, a new coach would surely bring in new talent by his 3d year. JC's? Drop downs?]

Had 4 lost scholarships. [Yup, but I don't think this had any significant effect on the record the past 2 years.]

He was given a sinking ship [Oh, BS. The ship wasn't and isn't sinking.]

and

had a defensive coach that would rather bend and break then actually kick someones ass.
[Which defensive coach? The one he inherited who had the top defense in the Big Sky in his last 3 years he was the DC, or the one he brought with him? What's wrong with bend but not break, by the way?]

I will save my comments about your lack of understanding for a later time.

Why save your comments? Let's see them now. Let's have a discussion. This is a forum for discussing Griz and FCS football. It appears you now think this is your forum and you should decide what should be discussed about Griz football and what others' views should be, and your job is locking threads, but many of us disagree with you.

Keep up the good work Payton!

 

[Yukon]

I 100% agree with Payton. Every year is a new year for Griz football. I come here to see what's new and whats ahead for the new season. When I see anti-Stitt all over the place, I move on and try and find Griz info someplace else.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Peyton:

My only problem I have with locking the "Hotseat" thread is timing. You didn't give me a chance to reply to fanofzoo's comment about my post that said "I believe that you have summed it up the best." to say:

Promote that guy!

 

[ordigger]

Sounds like I should start posting my little pony memes again...

Or little peyton memes

 

[PlayerRep]

How many people agree that Stitt "was given a sinking ship"?

The last 4 years before Stitt came, UM was:

9-5 with 2 playoff games

10-3 with a playoff game in second round

5-6 (when UM lost JJ just before the start of pre-season and had no experience at qb)

11-3, with a loss in the semi's.

I just don't see any basis whatsoever for saying Griz football was "sinking ship".

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I believe Stitt took over a program that was trending downwards and is now trying to recover from a lapse in talent left by the Delaney years. But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

 

[Paytonlives]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I believe Stitt took over a program that was trending downwards and is now trying to recover from a lapse in talent left by the Delaney years. But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Maybe he should have looked to find some dropdown or JC talent. Instead, the biggest move looking for "older" help, was a guy that has bounced around from position to position more than a Thai hooker.

 

[fanofzoo]

We all know how everyone feels here about Stitt, we have discussed and voted, many times. It's time now to put down the mouse and go outside, that's why we live here.

However when the season starts it's ...put up or shut up.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Hasnt it been discussed here that the O-line depth chart is actually looking the best it has for 5 or so years...with the number twos also being a solid lineup and not just a revolving door?

Sounds liek progress to me...unless you're one of the types who absolutely hates Stitt.

 

[Paytonlives]

How many people agree that Stitt "was given a sinking ship"?

The last 4 years before Stitt came, UM was:

9-5 with 2 playoff games

10-3 with a playoff game in second round

5-6 (when UM lost JJ just before the start of pre-season and had no experience at qb)

11-3, with a loss in the semi's.

I just don't see any basis whatsoever for saying Griz football was "sinking ship".

Record does not indicate what talent was on the roster when he took over. The only positions that were above average were WR (jones and Henderson), Defensive line and LB (with little depth).

 

[horribilisfan8184]

How many people agree that Stitt "was given a sinking ship"?

The last 4 years before Stitt came, UM was:

9-5 with 2 playoff games

10-3 with a playoff game in second round

5-6 (when UM lost JJ just before the start of pre-season and had no experience at qb)

11-3, with a loss in the semi's.

I just don't see any basis whatsoever for saying Griz football was "sinking ship".

We know Delaney played Hauck's and Pflu's juniors and seniors. How many of Delaney's recruits were 4th year juniors or 5th year seniors when playing for him? Were any of the recruit classes playing in Delaney's HC years affected by the scholly reductions? I don't agree the ship was sinking but it was wounded under the waterline and beginning to list. I believe the last two recruiting classes are a solid foundation for righting the ship and believe we will see that this year.

 

[PlayerRep]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Not true. Stitt has some of his 0-lineman who will be in their 3d year in the program. I believe he brought in some late in his first recruiting season. Also, if there was such a huge lack of o-line talent, why not bring in JC's and drop downs, or at least try?

 

[Paytonlives]

I believe Stitt took over a program that was trending downwards and is now trying to recover from a lapse in talent left by the Delaney years. But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Maybe he should have looked to find some dropdown or JC talent. Instead, the biggest move looking for "older" help, was a guy that has bounced around from position to position more than a Thai hooker.

That's your justification?

 

[bgbigdog]

It's like Kristallnacht for the anti-Stitt set.

Zu meiner Kartoffel und Pfirsich wachsender Freund. Die Familie meiner Frau flüchtete die Tyrannei des Nazi-Deutschlands, als sie Kinder waren. Ich werde daran erinnert, mehr als ich möchte, wie viel besser ihr Leben wäre, wenn nur irgendwelche Pfirsich Wodka im Haus wäre.

I'll respect Payton's wishes this one time. Now I'm off to Costco, always Costco for more brisket flats and golden marg elixer. Hopefully I can escape the siren calls of the DCell battery displays again. I find it embarrassing to ask the guy at the door to lash me to the cart to make the trip down that isle.

 

[Paytonlives]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Not true. Stitt has some of his 0-lineman who will be in their 3d year in the program. I believe he brought in some late in his first recruiting season. Also, if there was such a huge lack of o-line talent, why not bring in JC's and drop downs, or at least try?

You honestly think he did not try? His first recruiting class was after he had been on the job less than 8 weeks. So even if you count that class it would be incoming freshmen, red shirt freshmen and red shirt sophomores this fall. Nothing above a freshmen in his first two years of games.

 

[PlayerRep]

But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Not true. Stitt has some of his 0-lineman who will be in their 3d year in the program. I believe he brought in some late in his first recruiting season. Also, if there was such a huge lack of o-line talent, why not bring in JC's and drop downs, or at least try?

You honestly think he did not try? His first recruiting class was after he had been on the job less than 8 weeks. So even if you count that class it would be incoming freshmen, red shirt freshmen and red shirt sophomores this fall. Nothing above a freshmen in his first two years of games.

I don't know if he tried or how much, but it's a pretty poor excuse by you to blame bad o-line recruiting by prior coaches, when the new coach either did or couldn't bring in any better players in 2.5 years of recruiting. If a team has huge holes, go fill them. Don't keep making excuses.

 

[brewskis]

How many people agree that Stitt "was given a sinking ship"?

The last 4 years before Stitt came, UM was:

9-5 with 2 playoff games

10-3 with a playoff game in second round

5-6 (when UM lost JJ just before the start of pre-season and had no experience at qb)

11-3, with a loss in the semi's.

I just don't see any basis whatsoever for saying Griz football was "sinking ship".

Record does not indicate what talent was on the roster when he took over. The only positions that were above average were WR (jones and Henderson), Defensive line and LB (with little depth).

That 9-5 season also included a playoff win against SAN DIEGO.....so sure I guess it counts.....

I'd like to forget how many times we lost to EWU during that stretch, but it felt like 20.

We also graduated Canada, Van, and Jordan Johnson.....who were our only playmakers in the backfield.

I'd say things weren't exactly peachy.



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[HelenaHandBasket]

I believe Stitt took over a program that was trending downwards and is now trying to recover from a lapse in talent left by the Delaney years. But I will also add that the current OL depth chart is more a projection of how poorly he has done bringing in talent to upgrade than how good the current OL talent is.

Stitts OL recruits are incoming freshmen and red shirt freshmen.... how can you justify your statement, knowing that CB'S and OLine are the hardest positions to find drop downs

Maybe he should have looked to find some dropdown or JC talent. Instead, the biggest move looking for "older" help, was a guy that has bounced around from position to position more than a Thai hooker.

That's your justification?

You want to make it sound like unless a kid is a Jr or Sr you should not expect much from them. Several of these kids will be into their 3rd year. If you look around college football, there are many Fr, RFr, So, RSo playing along the offensive line. I believe that EWU started 4 Fr/So on their OL last season. Montana may have had one of the worst OL's in the BSC, yet they can't find anyway to upgrade?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I don't know if he tried or how much, but it's a pretty poor excuse by you to blame bad o-line recruiting by prior coaches, when the new coach either did or couldn't bring in any better players in 2.5 years of recruiting. If a team has huge holes, go fill them. Don't keep making excuses.

Just because Stitt has struggled with OL recruiting doesn't let Delaney off the hook. He didn't leave anything there either.