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Coach Stitt (Combined threads)

The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I don't know if he tried or how much, but it's a pretty poor excuse by you to blame bad o-line recruiting by prior coaches, when the new coach either did or couldn't bring in any better players in 2.5 years of recruiting. If a team has huge holes, go fill them. Don't keep making excuses.

Just because Stitt has struggled with OL recruiting doesn't let Delaney off the hook. He didn't leave anything there either.

He left essentially 3 years worth of starters. If current coaches can't get anyone better, then I'd say that what was left was better than what some of you think.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I don't know if he tried or how much, but it's a pretty poor excuse by you to blame bad o-line recruiting by prior coaches, when the new coach either did or couldn't bring in any better players in 2.5 years of recruiting. If a team has huge holes, go fill them. Don't keep making excuses.

Just because Stitt has struggled with OL recruiting doesn't let Delaney off the hook. He didn't leave anything there either.

He left essentially 3 years worth of starters. If current coaches can't get anyone better, then I'd say that what was left was better than what some of you think.

That has been 3 of the worst years for Griz OL play in decades of Griz football. I say that deserves an "atta boy" and pat on the back for the previous coach. I have also said numerous times that Stitt has failed with his OL decisions. Everyone keeps talking about how great his OL recruits are, but how would anyone really know since outside of Villanueva, none see the field.
 
The point is yes the cupboard was bare on talent... and the ship was taking on water. (see below for OL problems) Again, Im not yet sure Stitt is the Guy, but to say he has done a crappy job and needs to be fired is really premature. He needed to upgrade talent and in some cases clean house. That is now complete, lets see how he does with players that he recruited...

None-Stitt OL recruits that are: (Total of 3)
SR's this fall:
David Reece, Robert Luke and Mike Ralston.
No Juniors:
That means not one Delaney OL Recruit for the class of 2014 is still on the roster and only 3 OLinemen are pre Stitt recruits, and none of Stitts OL recruits have started their Sophomore years

2015
Dallas Hart 6'5" 312
Jackson McCullough (not on 2017 roster)
Cody Meyer 6'3" 285
Angel Villanueva 6'5" 315

2016
Thayne Jackson 6'6" 312
Ashton Torres 6'5" 300
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 300
Brandon Scott 6'7" 320
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 276

2017
Payton Stoner 6' 6 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 240
 
PlayerRep said:
The 2015 has good talent, by the way. Jeez, look at the roster. M. Sanders, R. McKinley, BG, Chalich, Sullivan, Held, Jones, Henderson, M. Rassmusen, Strahm, N. Harris, Sandry (think he was an early Delaney recruit), Gamboa, KVA, Kose, C. Lebsock, JR Nelson, Nguyen, Counts, Epperly, J. Wilson, Kidder, Buss, Bradley, Holmes, Crittendon, Sims (think he was Delaney), Schye, Cochran, Sirmon, Weyer, all the o-lineman some of you don't like (but who started for 3 years, except for 1 position), Horner, Carslon, Lider, Bingham, Peevey, R. Johnson. Probably some more. I left off guys who I thought may have been late Stitt recruits.

Thats a lot of average players and young players... Again LBS, WR and DL's were above average (Though not much depth), not much else.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I don't know if he tried or how much, but it's a pretty poor excuse by you to blame bad o-line recruiting by prior coaches, when the new coach either did or couldn't bring in any better players in 2.5 years of recruiting. If a team has huge holes, go fill them. Don't keep making excuses.

Just because Stitt has struggled with OL recruiting doesn't let Delaney off the hook. He didn't leave anything there either.

He left essentially 3 years worth of starters. If current coaches can't get anyone better, then I'd say that what was left was better than what some of you think.

That has been 3 of the worst years for Griz OL play in decades of Griz football. I say that deserves an "atta boy" and pat on the back for the previous coach. I have also said numerous times that Stitt has failed with his OL decisions. Everyone keeps talking about how great his OL recruits are, but how would anyone really know since outside of Villanueva, none see the field.
All were red-shirts and none have played a down as a sophomore...
 
I don't think Delaney was a bad recruiter at all, quite the contrary. However, you can't ignore the fact that he under-recruited the OL position. I really like that Stitt has made that a priority and has Germer on staff to develop a very technical position.
 
So instead of bitchin' about Stitt (bas), we now get endless bitchin' about shutting down the endless bitchin' about Stitt (babas or ba²s). Would PR be satisfied if everybody just said you're right, you know more than anybody on this board and should never be contradicted? Not saying PR is wrong. I have no idea, but seldom do you see someone so obsessed with brow beating every single minor contradictory opinion holder into submission. People will sometimes disagree. So what? Let the season begin.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Paytonlives said:
All were red-shirts and none have played a down as a sophomore...

I guess that is why Ralson, I guy that had never played OL prior to last season, is the better option.

I think Ralston should have been moved to OT a long time ago. I think he will have a good year and surprise many of you. It was way too early to judge him this spring.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Paytonlives said:
All were red-shirts and none have played a down as a sophomore...

I guess that is why Ralson, I guy that had never played OL prior to last season, is the better option.

I think Ralston should have been moved to OT a long time ago. I think he will have a good year and surprise many of you. It was way too early to judge him this spring.

Think you may have missed my point, but carry on.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Paytonlives said:
All were red-shirts and none have played a down as a sophomore...

I guess that is why Ralson, I guy that had never played OL prior to last season, is the better option.

I think Ralston should have been moved to OT a long time ago. I think he will have a good year and surprise many of you. It was way too early to judge him this spring.

Helena... its a philosophy. Most coaches (Stitt surly does) will redshirt all OL so they can get bigger, stronger and learn the College game. His holding them out was not because they could not help (Would you really want to waste these guys for a few downs or quarters) it was looking for brighter things in the future. Yes, it sucks that UM went through what they did, but if Stitt is right, the future will see an ass kicking OL.
 
Paytonlives said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Paytonlives said:
All were red-shirts and none have played a down as a sophomore...

I guess that is why Ralson, I guy that had never played OL prior to last season, is the better option.

I think Ralston should have been moved to OT a long time ago. I think he will have a good year and surprise many of you. It was way too early to judge him this spring.

Helena... its a philosophy. Most coaches (Stitt surly does) will redshirt all OL so they can get bigger, stronger and learn the College game. His holding them out was not because they could not help it was looking for brighter things in the future. Yes, it sucks that UM went through what they did, but if Stitt is right, the future will see an ass kicking OL.

Payton, I get the philosophy of RS all freshman, but sometimes a team doesn't have the luxury to do so. This team now will have 8 Stitt recruited OL that have RS and now is time for a couple of them to step up.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Paytonlives said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I guess that is why Ralson, I guy that had never played OL prior to last season, is the better option.

I think Ralston should have been moved to OT a long time ago. I think he will have a good year and surprise many of you. It was way too early to judge him this spring.

Helena... its a philosophy. Most coaches (Stitt surly does) will redshirt all OL so they can get bigger, stronger and learn the College game. His holding them out was not because they could not help it was looking for brighter things in the future. Yes, it sucks that UM went through what they did, but if Stitt is right, the future will see an ass kicking OL.

Payton, I get the philosophy of RS all freshman, but sometimes a team doesn't have the luxury to do so. This team now will have 8 Stitt recruited OL that have RS and now is time for a couple of them to step up.

Not saying I disagree with you... but Stitt does and he is the HC.
 
Paytonlives said:
The point is yes the cupboard was bare on talent... and the ship was taking on water. (see below for OL problems) Again, Im not yet sure Stitt is the Guy, but to say he has done a crappy job and needs to be fired is really premature. He needed to upgrade talent and in some cases clean house. That is now complete, lets see how he does with players that he recruited...

None-Stitt OL recruits that are: (Total of 3)
SR's this fall:
David Reece, Robert Luke and Mike Ralston.
No Juniors:
That means not one Delaney OL Recruit for the class of 2014 is still on the roster and only 3 OLinemen are pre Stitt recruits, and none of Stitts OL recruits have started their Sophomore years

2015
Dallas Hart 6'5" 312
Jackson McCullough (not on 2017 roster)
Cody Meyer 6'3" 285
Angel Villanueva 6'5" 315

2016
Thayne Jackson 6'6" 312
Ashton Torres 6'5" 300
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 300
Brandon Scott 6'7" 320
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 276

2017
Payton Stoner 6' 6 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 240

And Sprunk. As of spring ball, 4 likely starters. That's not consistent with leaving the cupboard bare. I am not blaming Stitt, but it's ridiculous for some of you to keep blaming Delaney.
 
Payton: it appears to me that the multiple threads about Stitt stimulated considerable conversation about Stitt and our football program. Isn't that the objective unless the threads contain extreme profane language?
Some of us do have many concerns about Stitt and would like to express those concerns. Apparently you support Stitt which is your right to do so, however, I don't think it is appropriate for you to muzzle contrary views.
 
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