Big Sky conference was totally owned today

[CDAGRIZ]

I think the Bizon got piss pounded by Eastern and Eastern went on to win. Couple years later, Bizon got worked in Missoula on national TV, and their coach quit, and they started upping the doses.

How many years has it been since the Big Sky had a team win it all?

I think it was 8 years ago that the Bizon started the doping program. No other way they win their six NCs.

You should call the NCAA and tell them everything you know.

You should stop rooting for known cheaters who are universally hated by everyone for the cheating and the fans who have inferiority complexes. Try it out!

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

How many years has it been since the Big Sky had a team win it all?

I think it was 8 years ago that the Bizon started the doping program. No other way they win their six NCs.

You should call the NCAA and tell them everything you know.

You should stop rooting for known cheaters who are universally hated by everyone for the cheating and the fans who have inferiority complexes. Try it out!

Universally hated? Eh come on man.

Why don't you fly over to Frisco. Come on man it will be fun. You'll get to see the best two FCS teams compete on the main stage and can get a T-shirt for the wife.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I think it was 8 years ago that the Bizon started the doping program. No other way they win their six NCs.

You should call the NCAA and tell them everything you know.

You should stop rooting for known cheaters who are universally hated by everyone for the cheating and the fans who have inferiority complexes. Try it out!

Universally hated? Eh come on man.

Why don't you fly over to Frisco. Come on man it will be fun. You'll get to see the best two FCS teams compete on the main stage and can get a T-shirt for the wife.

Sorry. I don’t cheer for known cheats. Ben Johnson, Lance Armstrong, and T-Buffalo Football. Quite the trio.

 

[indian-outlaw]

You should call the NCAA and tell them everything you know.

You should stop rooting for known cheaters who are universally hated by everyone for the cheating and the fans who have inferiority complexes. Try it out!

Universally hated? Eh come on man.

Why don't you fly over to Frisco. Come on man it will be fun. You'll get to see the best two FCS teams compete on the main stage and can get a T-shirt for the wife.

Sorry. I don’t cheer for known cheats. Ben Johnson, Lance Armstrong, and T-Buffalo Football. Quite the trio.

Buddy, if you don't think that PED's are rampent in NCAA sports I have a bridge to sell you. They have been since the 80's.

 

[kemajic]

He has beaten a #1 JMU team in the semis in their house.

Good for him.

How did he fare the next week when it was all on the line?

He lost to a very good Richmond team. MVFC was nowhere to be found. You can't get to 4 NCs without winning big games along the way. Appy St. in the semis, etc.

Checking facts on your claimed dominance by the MVFC, I looked at Montana vs the top MVFC teams. Montana is:
4-5 vs NDSU
7-0 vs UNI
8-0 vs SDSU
1-0 vs S. IL
12-6 vs USD
Don't feel so dominated. The MVFC is very top-heavy. NDSU's dominance does not make the MVFC a dominant conference.

First of all, your all time record against NDSU is wrong. Second, I don't really care what happened in 1960 between UNI and Montana, it is irrelevant. Third, the way Montana has historically competed against the MVFC is not relevant as a whole when discussing conference vs conference.

At any point in the FCS/D1AA history, has anyone really said the Big Sky was the premier conference? I mean ever? Sure, Montana has put up a few good teams, but by and large the 2000's were owned by the CAA and SoCon, the 2010's have been dominated by the MVFC etc. 1980's and 1990's were a SoCon/MVFC league.

Look, all you need to do is just open your eyes and watch a playoff game. The best the Big Sky has to offer has not been good enough. The conference does not have a single team who can physically compete against NDSU and JMU. Not one.

OK show me where the posted record against NDSU is wrong; straight from CFO Info http://cfbinfo.com/series/montana-grizzlies/north-dakota-state-bison. Montana never even played UNI until the 80's and has wins in 2018, 2016, 2011 and our NC year 2001, the latter two complete blowouts. We own Farley and SDSU. Your claims for MVFC clout in the 80's and 90's is also total BS; that was due to YSU, which was not even in the MVFC (Gateway) until 1997. But nice try to round out your narrative.

The reason the way Montana (we could include EWU) competes vs the MVFC is relevant only because of your asshat chest-thumping proclamations about MVFC domination, which is full of holes. You do not hear this website claiming such for the BSC, but to reactively show examples that dispute your overboard claims. What is irrelevant in the discussion is that one team, NDSU is dominant for several reasons. NDSU deserves all respect as a dominant program; the record is clear. The MVFC as a conf., not so much. You conveniently overlook that the MVFC has Missouri St's and others like it. A conf as dominant as you claim would be good top to bottom.

Sure, the BSC is not currently producing teams that take NCs away from NDSU or JMU, but we certainly can compete with the rest of the MVFC, which is not as exceptional as you claim. Otherwise the BSC would not have 4 of the 8 seeds and 2 of the 4 semifinalists.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You should stop rooting for known cheaters who are universally hated by everyone for the cheating and the fans who have inferiority complexes. Try it out!

Universally hated? Eh come on man.

Why don't you fly over to Frisco. Come on man it will be fun. You'll get to see the best two FCS teams compete on the main stage and can get a T-shirt for the wife.

Sorry. I don’t cheer for known cheats. Ben Johnson, Lance Armstrong, and T-Buffalo Football. Quite the trio.

Buddy, if you don't think that PED's are rampent in NCAA sports I have a bridge to sell you. They have been since the 80's.

But the Bizon is the only program that has been proven to engage in doping at an institutional level. Sure, some kids might take something they get from some third party. NDSU contracts with that third party and organizes the doping.

 

[kemajic]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Yet, part of me wants to hand it to the little dullard. Imagine being perfectly dumb. Not so dumb that you can’t function in society, but the perfect amount of stupid. You could go through life thinking you were right about everything, and have zero stress. Your only dilemma each day is what drive-thru to hit before cracking a few cold ones and playing video games alone in your apartment. Sounds pretty awesome in a way, because you wouldn’t be smart enough to know you were dumb.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

Good for him.

How did he fare the next week when it was all on the line?

He lost to a very good Richmond team. MVFC was nowhere to be found. You can't get to 4 NCs without winning big games along the way. Appy St. in the semis, etc.

Checking facts on your claimed dominance by the MVFC, I looked at Montana vs the top MVFC teams. Montana is:
4-5 vs NDSU
7-0 vs UNI
8-0 vs SDSU
1-0 vs S. IL
12-6 vs USD
Don't feel so dominated. The MVFC is very top-heavy. NDSU's dominance does not make the MVFC a dominant conference.

First of all, your all time record against NDSU is wrong. Second, I don't really care what happened in 1960 between UNI and Montana, it is irrelevant. Third, the way Montana has historically competed against the MVFC is not relevant as a whole when discussing conference vs conference.

At any point in the FCS/D1AA history, has anyone really said the Big Sky was the premier conference? I mean ever? Sure, Montana has put up a few good teams, but by and large the 2000's were owned by the CAA and SoCon, the 2010's have been dominated by the MVFC etc. 1980's and 1990's were a SoCon/MVFC league.

Look, all you need to do is just open your eyes and watch a playoff game. The best the Big Sky has to offer has not been good enough. The conference does not have a single team who can physically compete against NDSU and JMU. Not one.

OK show me where the posted record against NDSU is wrong; straight from CFO Info http://cfbinfo.com/series/montana-grizzlies/north-dakota-state-bison. Montana never even played UNI until the 80's and has wins in 2018, 2016, 2011 and our NC year 2001, the latter two complete blowouts. We own Farley and SDSU. Your claims for MVFC clout in the 80's and 90's is also total BS; that was due to YSU, which was not even in the MVFC (Gateway) until 1997. But nice try to round out your narrative.

The reason the way Montana (we could include EWU) competes vs the MVFC is relevant only because of your asshat chest-thumping proclamations about MVFC domination, which is full of holes. You do not hear this website claiming such for the BSC, but to reactively show examples that dispute your overboard claims. What is irrelevant in the discussion is that one team, NDSU is dominant for several reasons. NDSU deserves all respect as a dominant program; the record is clear. The MVFC as a conf., not so much. You conveniently overlook that the MVFC has Missouri St's and others like it. A conf as dominant as you claim would be good top to bottom.

Sure, the BSC is not currently producing teams that take NCs away from NDSU or JMU, but we certainly can compete with the rest of the MVFC, which is not as exceptional as you claim. Otherwise the BSC would not have 4 of the 8 seeds and 2 of the 4 semifinalists.

Sorry I looked at your record wrong and assumed you had Montana leading the all time series.

Look it honestly does not matter what happened in 1914. It isn't relevant today.

All you have to ask yourself is if the Big Sky is currently producing teams capable of winning in Frisco? The answer is no. The best two teams in that conference were completely throttled.

 

[ordigger]

He’s just trolling everyone folks. Plus he’s just giving his opinion, we all have ours. His opinion is no more accurate than another’s opinion since it’s really just an opinion. His opinion is the past doesn’t matter, then immediately turns around and brings up an opinion on the past

 

[kemajic]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

Good point. Outside of UND-State, no MVFPCFPT team would stand a chance to win the BSC this year. 50% of the seeds, 50% of the semifinals. Definitely the stronger conference.

 

[SaskGriz]

Nobody should be trash talking the NDSU Bison, they are way better than we've ever been. They are way better than anybody has ever been in FCS football. They are UCLA basketball, UNC women's soccer good. We talk about Georgia Southern, Youngstown and App State as the premier programs in the FCS. The Bison are twice as good as them. How can you tell? They've won twice as much. That is all that matters. The Bobcats curbed stomped us and the Bison beat them like a left handed step child. Get some class and realize we aren't in the conversation with NDSU and won't be until we've won 4 or 5 Chippers. And to be honest right now we aren't even in the conversation with the Cats, painful as that is.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

You do understand that 3 different MVFC programs have been to the national championship game in the last 5 years right?

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

Never said that.

The league as a whole is more physical. Way more physical, and playing in it sharpened iron on iron.

I’m just going off of what former players have told me. Pretty much unanimous opinion is that the Big Sky is pretty dam soft compared to the MVFC.

Why do you think Weber State’s coach and MSU’s coach have both continuously referenced the MVFC and are trying to mold their teams to fit that style of play?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Nobody should be trash talking the NDSU Bison, they are way better than we've ever been. They are way better than anybody has ever been in FCS football. They are UCLA basketball, UNC women's soccer good. We talk about Georgia Southern, Youngstown and App State as the premier programs in the FCS. The Bison are twice as good as them. How can you tell? They've won twice as much. That is all that matters. The Bobcats curbed stomped us and the Bison beat them like a left handed step child. Get some class and realize we aren't in the conversation with NDSU and won't be until we've won 4 or 5 Chippers. And to be honest right now we aren't even in the conversation with the Cats, painful as that is.

I don’t think anyone would trash talk the Bizon. Bizon fans, however, can’t handle anything but complete admiration, so it’s funny to watch them get mad online about things.

 

[SubGriz]

Nobody should be trash talking the NDSU Bison, they are way better than we've ever been. They are way better than anybody has ever been in FCS football. They are UCLA basketball, UNC women's soccer good. We talk about Georgia Southern, Youngstown and App State as the premier programs in the FCS. The Bison are twice as good as them. How can you tell? They've won twice as much. That is all that matters. The Bobcats curbed stomped us and the Bison beat them like a left handed step child. Get some class and realize we aren't in the conversation with NDSU and won't be until we've won 4 or 5 Chippers. And to be honest right now we aren't even in the conversation with the Cats, painful as that is.

They sure are amazing. They're so incredibly good that their own fanpage can't contain it and their fans spill over to eGriz. Sort of like how Bizon fans' guts can't be contained by their trousers and spill over onto their laps.

FTB

 

[PlayerRep]

You are a piece of work. Here you claim that getting to NC is a big feather (if it's a MVFC team), elsewhere Montana's 7 trips to NC game with only 2 wins is a sign of losing, as is EWU's appearance last year. Well done.

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

Never said that.

The league as a whole is more physical. Way more physical, and playing in it sharpened iron on iron.

I’m just going off of what former players have told me. Pretty much unanimous opinion is that the Big Sky is pretty dam soft compared to the MVFC.

Why do you think Weber State’s coach and MSU’s coach have both continuously referenced the MVFC and are trying to mold their teams to fit that style of play?

Where/when have the Weber and MSU coaches said they "are trying to mold their teams to fit that [MVFC] style of play?" Just curious. Hadn't been following and hadn't seen that.

 

[2011BisonAlumni]

Illinois State lost to a MVFC team....so I'm not sure how that is a knock against the MVFC.

EWU is really the only team out of the Big Sky who has competed well in the last decade, but even they have faltered on numerous occasions when a trip to Frisco was on the line.

Sorry man I just go off of what the players say, and all I have been told is they feel the Big Sky is kind of a weak league in terms of physicality.

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

Never said that.

The league as a whole is more physical. Way more physical, and playing in it sharpened iron on iron.

I’m just going off of what former players have told me. Pretty much unanimous opinion is that the Big Sky is pretty dam soft compared to the MVFC.

Why do you think Weber State’s coach and MSU’s coach have both continuously referenced the MVFC and are trying to mold their teams to fit that style of play?

Where/when have the Weber and MSU coaches said they "are trying to mold their teams to fit that [MVFC] style of play?" Just curious. Hadn't been following and hadn't seen that.

I’ve heard them both mention it numerous times. Not going to try to dig and find it.

The Big Sky teams need to improve overall in terms of physicality. Hard to say otherwise.

There is a dam good reason why UNI and Illinois State have both played NDSU tight in the playoffs in recent years and SDSU has beat them in the regular season.

 

[SubGriz]

Ask USD players who were or weren't physical in their season home opener. According to you, a 4-4 MVFC team should be able to handle a 6-2 BSC team at home. Do your sources say Dante Olson was kind of weak in terms of physicality?

Never said that.

The league as a whole is more physical. Way more physical, and playing in it sharpened iron on iron.

I’m just going off of what former players have told me. Pretty much unanimous opinion is that the Big Sky is pretty dam soft compared to the MVFC.

Why do you think Weber State’s coach and MSU’s coach have both continuously referenced the MVFC and are trying to mold their teams to fit that style of play?

Where/when have the Weber and MSU coaches said they "are trying to mold their teams to fit that [MVFC] style of play?" Just curious. Hadn't been following and hadn't seen that.

I’ve heard them both mention it numerous times. Not going to try to dig and find it.

The Big Sky needs to improve the overall physicality of their teams.

Really? BSC had twice as teams in the semis as your conference. This may come as a shock, but the MVCFPCS consists of more than just Fargo.