Ash and Kennedy act quickly

[grizhunter]

As I said: msu's punishment was fine and appropriate.


Griz punishment was fine and appropriate.

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What the F*CK are you blabbering about IQ25.06. As far as I know, you, getgrizzy, and about 3 or 4 of your senseless cat buds are the only ones who DON'T believe those two are equal in severity. And man, let me tell you, THOSE are guys with a great deal of respect!!! But again, you've never been unbiased (or smart) once in your life, so I see no reason that's going to change.

-2
you're off your rocker dude. i'd say, so far, that 2506 and i don't believe they are equal and you believe they are. i don't see anyone else (edit: bdizzle is on our side) weighing in, so quit making stuff up. the crimes weren't the same (i.d. vs. pushing police), how the school handled it wasn't the same (walking the criminals to the lawyer office vs. sacking them within three days), and the punishment wasn't the same (suspended from play for an entire track meet vs. one quarter of a game). where do you come up with this stuff??!!!

Pushing police was initially alleged, but there were accounts that they disagreed with the allegation. The eventual minor charge pled to had no element of pushing the police. You are the one who needs to stick to the facts? It appeared to me that what the police said occurred initially turned out not to be true. Thus, all of the initial charges were dropped. UM figured this out fairly quickly, and acted appropriately, in my view. Why do you think all of the initial 3 charges were dropped? Police/prosecutors don't just drop all charges, because an attorney asks them to do that.

If people were saying that Trammel was only defending himself, or others were involved, or he didn't do it, then MSU wouldn't have acted yet--and certainly wouldn't have booted him.

I think Blount will get his ass kicked off the team too. He went lookin for Trammel. First mistake the brother made. Second, thinking he could take Trammel. Third, ever thinking Trammel would stop beating his ass, until he had kicked the living dog shit out of him. When your girlfriend cheats on you, fire the bitch. Don't go lookin for a 220 pound LB who's been drinkin and loves to fight. "I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." Now Blount has 101. A f***[*] up face and most likey, no more scolli. Plus, because of his lack of being able to control his girlfriend, we loss our starting outside linebacker. Blount can leave town too. Sorry punk ass bitch.....

Hey Cat, how do you really feel? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[WaGriz4life]

As I said: msu's punishment was fine and appropriate.


Griz punishment was fine and appropriate.

-1

What the F*CK are you blabbering about IQ25.06. As far as I know, you, getgrizzy, and about 3 or 4 of your senseless cat buds are the only ones who DON'T believe those two are equal in severity. And man, let me tell you, THOSE are guys with a great deal of respect!!! But again, you've never been unbiased (or smart) once in your life, so I see no reason that's going to change.

-2
you're off your rocker dude. i'd say, so far, that 2506 and i don't believe they are equal and you believe they are. i don't see anyone else (edit: bdizzle is on our side) weighing in, so quit making stuff up. the crimes weren't the same (i.d. vs. pushing police), how the school handled it wasn't the same (walking the criminals to the lawyer office vs. sacking them within three days), and the punishment wasn't the same (suspended from play for an entire track meet vs. one quarter of a game). where do you come up with this stuff??!!!

Pushing police was initially alleged, but there were accounts that they disagreed with the allegation. The eventual minor charge pled to had no element of pushing the police. You are the one who needs to stick to the facts? It appeared to me that what the police said occurred initially turned out not to be true. Thus, all of the initial charges were dropped. UM figured this out fairly quickly, and acted appropriately, in my view. Why do you think all of the initial 3 charges were dropped? Police/prosecutors don't just drop all charges, because an attorney asks them to do that.

If people were saying that Trammel was only defending himself, or others were involved, or he didn't do it, then MSU wouldn't have acted yet--and certainly wouldn't have booted him.

I think Blount will get his ass kicked off the team too. He went lookin for Trammel. First mistake the brother made. Second, thinking he could take Trammel. Third, ever thinking Trammel would stop beating his ass, until he had kicked the living dog shit out of him. When your girlfriend cheats on you, fire the bitch. Don't go lookin for a 220 pound LB who's been drinkin and loves to fight. "I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." Now Blount has 101. A f***[*] up face and most likey, no more scolli. Plus, because of his lack of being able to control his girlfriend, we loss our starting outside linebacker. Blount can leave town too. Sorry punk ass bitch.....

I like your style. We should party

 

[PlayerRep]

I have the ability to answer your questions, but won't. The post speaks for itself, I don't believe the Griz HC using the standard BS line of letting the legal system run its course is doing any of the kids on the Griz team any favors. Suspending a player does not rely on a finding of guilt, it should be based on the HC conducting their own investigation and handing down appropriate punishment. The facts involving the Griz players were well known whether they were criminal or not (how else did I know they both would be pleading out to misdemeanor disorderly conduct immediately after the season). Yet instead of handing down an appropriate punishment of publically calling these players out for their conduct and imposing a one game suspension (assuming this was either players first offense, if they had others... which I don't know about then some other punishment may have been appropriate), Plu took the standard UM BS line which reflects poorly on the University and certainly did no favors for the kids involved.

You are a liar.You have no ability to answer the questions. I knew you wouldn't. UM did not let the legal system run its course with the taser incident. They made an assessment within the first several days, and determined to suspend the players as they did. The facts involving the taser incident were not well-known. They were completely in dispute. In the days after after the incident, when I had heard some things and read the articles, I said on the board that the charges would be dropped, or plead to a minor charge. It wasn't hard to see that the charges were not appropriate and would not stand. UM did the right thing. No of your lies will change the fact that UM analyzed the situation correctly and took appropriate action, in my view.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I think Blount will get his ass kicked off the team too. He went lookin for Trammel. First mistake the brother made. Second, thinking he could take Trammel. Third, ever thinking Trammel would stop beating his ass, until he had kicked the living dog shit out of him. When your girlfriend cheats on you, fire the bitch. Don't go lookin for a 220 pound LB who's been drinkin and loves to fight. "I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." Now Blount has 101. A f***[*] up face and most likey, no more scolli. Plus, because of his lack of being able to control his girlfriend, we loss our starting outside linebacker. Blount can leave town too. Sorry punk ass bitch.....

That is a well-reasoned, well thought out and articulate post. For Bozeman anyway.

 

[MT Head Guy]

Sounds like Griz fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

Sounds like Cats fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

What are we arguing about?

 

[grizhunter]

Sounds like Griz fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

Sounds like Cats fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

What are we arguing about?

Nothing, lets fight!!!

 

[EverettGriz]

Sounds like Griz fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

Sounds like Cats fans are proud of their program and the way incidents are handled.

What are we arguing about?

I've wondered this myself....

 

[Phat Cat]

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-2
you're off your rocker dude. i'd say, so far, that 2506 and i don't believe they are equal and you believe they are. i don't see anyone else (edit: bdizzle is on our side) weighing in, so quit making stuff up. the crimes weren't the same (i.d. vs. pushing police), how the school handled it wasn't the same (walking the criminals to the lawyer office vs. sacking them within three days), and the punishment wasn't the same (suspended from play for an entire track meet vs. one quarter of a game). where do you come up with this stuff??!!!

Pushing police was initially alleged, but there were accounts that they disagreed with the allegation. The eventual minor charge pled to had no element of pushing the police. You are the one who needs to stick to the facts? It appeared to me that what the police said occurred initially turned out not to be true. Thus, all of the initial charges were dropped. UM figured this out fairly quickly, and acted appropriately, in my view. Why do you think all of the initial 3 charges were dropped? Police/prosecutors don't just drop all charges, because an attorney asks them to do that.

If people were saying that Trammel was only defending himself, or others were involved, or he didn't do it, then MSU wouldn't have acted yet--and certainly wouldn't have booted him.

I think Blount will get his ass kicked off the team too. He went lookin for Trammel. First mistake the brother made. Second, thinking he could take Trammel. Third, ever thinking Trammel would stop beating his ass, until he had kicked the living dog shit out of him. When your girlfriend cheats on you, fire the bitch. Don't go lookin for a 220 pound LB who's been drinkin and loves to fight. "I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." Now Blount has 101. A f***[*] up face and most likey, no more scolli. Plus, because of his lack of being able to control his girlfriend, we loss our starting outside linebacker. Blount can leave town too. Sorry punk ass bitch.....

I like your style. We should party

I'll be over for Cat/Griz hoops in a couple weeks. Will be with my boys, Sampson, C.T. and Chris Lynn. Always like partying with Griz. :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Bear Axed]

My only question is who will be this years Homec and Thompson Brothers?

and where is the official media release dated before the big event, where it shows Homec actually left the kitten team prior to his curb stomping escapades?

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/search/?s=start_time&sd=desc&t=article&q=homec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[hawaiiangriz]

Yeah, yeah.... MSU is now better because they disciplined their football thug quicker than we did ours. Blah, blah, blah. Easy to do in the middle of February you douche bag cat fans.. How much you wanna bet the player is back after the dust settles....

Keep on your pipe dream about Ash being God and all... What will you say when the player is back this fall after 'it was determined that the punishment did not fit the crime (or something along those lines, which is what they will say)?

 

[Growler1]

I have the ability to answer your questions, but won't. The post speaks for itself, I don't believe the Griz HC using the standard BS line of letting the legal system run its course is doing any of the kids on the Griz team any favors. Suspending a player does not rely on a finding of guilt, it should be based on the HC conducting their own investigation and handing down appropriate punishment. The facts involving the Griz players were well known whether they were criminal or not (how else did I know they both would be pleading out to misdemeanor disorderly conduct immediately after the season). Yet instead of handing down an appropriate punishment of publically calling these players out for their conduct and imposing a one game suspension (assuming this was either players first offense, if they had others... which I don't know about then some other punishment may have been appropriate), Plu took the standard UM BS line which reflects poorly on the University and certainly did no favors for the kids involved.

You are a liar.You have no ability to answer the questions. I knew you wouldn't. UM did not let the legal system run its course with the taser incident. They made an assessment within the first several days, and determined to suspend the players as they did. The facts involving the taser incident were not well-known. They were completely in dispute. In the days after after the incident, when I had heard some things and read the articles, I said on the board that the charges would be dropped, or plead to a minor charge. It wasn't hard to see that the charges were not appropriate and would not stand. UM did the right thing. No of your lies will change the fact that UM analyzed the situation correctly and took appropriate action, in my view.

Your last three words says it all.... "in my view"! And, what is your view? Oh, your view is that every criminal act by Griz athletes is caused by police brutality, unscrupulous police actions, reduced charges, dropped charges, all tainted by your maroon-colored glasses, and the fact that you care more about sucking-up to the coaches and players than admitting the problems. I got news for ya, "runs to sniff jocks"..... obtaining a reduced charge does not mean the player is not guilty....it means that you slickster lawyers found some technicality, or asked for a favor from some judge that you bribe. You are the worst fan associated with Grizzly athletics. The coaches make fun of you. The players make fun of you, but you are the Energizer Bunny and never stop working the system. Just know that you are the most reviled poster on egriz.

 

[doebrmn]

Player rep, you haven't a clue. And yes, the first statement by UM following the taser incident was that University would "let the legal system run its course." Its documented so pull your head out and go read it. The suspension, for a quarter, which in and of itself was a joke, was not officially reported. It simply became public knowledge. Plu did nothing to demonstrate leadership. He followed the same ole party line. You might notice that Fields actually did his own investigation, the University made a decision and then acknowledge that if facts came to light that mitigate the situation they may change the punishement. Unlike UM that buried its head, handed down a joke for discpline while all the while knowing the facts that even a first year law student would know were sufficient to lead to a conviction. And low and behold, a week after the season they plead to disorderly conduct. What a shock. I guess it would be shock to anyone that is as clueless as you. Go back and read my posts, I told you day one that was what would happen. Gee, wonder how I knew that. Maybe because I am not a moron like you.

 

[Growler1]

I have the ability to answer your questions, but won't. The post speaks for itself, I don't believe the Griz HC using the standard BS line of letting the legal system run its course is doing any of the kids on the Griz team any favors. Suspending a player does not rely on a finding of guilt, it should be based on the HC conducting their own investigation and handing down appropriate punishment. The facts involving the Griz players were well known whether they were criminal or not (how else did I know they both would be pleading out to misdemeanor disorderly conduct immediately after the season). Yet instead of handing down an appropriate punishment of publically calling these players out for their conduct and imposing a one game suspension (assuming this was either players first offense, if they had others... which I don't know about then some other punishment may have been appropriate), Plu took the standard UM BS line which reflects poorly on the University and certainly did no favors for the kids involved.

+1

 

[doebrmn]

BTW, the reduced charge had nothing to do with any technicalities, lack of evidence or lawyer tricks. It is very common to plead down misdemeanors because the county and city simply don't have the time to deal with the number of misdemeanors. It is literally impossible to try all of these cases so in almost every instance (except, generally DUI's) a plea to a lesser offense is offered. There was nothing different in the Taser case. They reduced the misdemeanor assault on a police officer to disorderly conduct. That certainly isn't the first time that has happened and it won't be the last.

This was simply treated routine. Unfortunately for the University, it also treated it routine with the same tired line of "we will let the legal system run its course" instead of "we conducted our own investigation and we had two players that put themselves and our program in a bad light. They have been charged with misdemeanor offenses. After conducting an initial investigation, both players have been suspended from one game and will recieve interenal discipline. If any additional facts come to light that warrant a change in that action or a more serious punishment, the University will address it at the apporpriate time." That would have been the proper way to handle it. If the University had done that, there wouldn't still be discussions about it four months after the fact.

 

[catsack]

This is a joke, two fan bases bantering about which team has the worst criminals.

No we are bantering about how your team has a lack of dicipline

What if Wilson got in a car wreck killed himself or someone else, using minters drivers license to get drunk . Could be some serious issues giving someone your DL for drinking !

Did that actually happen? Wow!

Oh I see, we are playing what-if scenarios because the current arguments aren't stretched far enough out there as it is. Time to punch out for a bit with this sort of stuff happening...

Enjoy your time out

 

[MT Head Guy]

My only question is who will be this years Homec and Thompson Brothers?

and where is the official media release dated before the big event, where it shows Homec actually left the kitten team prior to his curb stomping escapades?

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/search/?s=start_time&sd=desc&t=article&q=homec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really?

Or the next Donaldson? Montana? Kemp? Johnson? etc.

That's truly a no win thing for either side. Why do this?

 

[Maynardsgametrail]

This is the most odd pissing match.........ever.

Can we please put the Trumaine and his "curb stomping" to rest?? I am pretty sure if he "curb stomped" (please watch "American History X")the guy, he would probably have a convicted manslaughter charge, and he would be residing at MSP.........Lets just say........He kicked him in the face? :thumb:

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

What the cat fans should be asking and worried about is why the different athletic departments are hunting out each other and beating the purr out. That is a true undelining problem. Seems there is no harmony in Bozo.
"Thank you sir. May I have another" Zach Minter

 

[EverettGriz]

Time to punch out

An rather odd turn of a phrase given the situation.....

 

[KoolMoeDee]

What the cat fans should be asking and worried about is why the different athletic departments are hunting out each other and beating the purr out. That is a true undelining problem. Seems there is no harmony in Bozo.
"Thank you sir. May I have another" Zach Minter

It was simply over a girl.