6-2 with 4 games left

[PlayerRep]

so i assume that you did not see any areas in our offense or defense that needed better preparation yesterday? go back and watch the game using the pause/slow button you may be surprised. did you listen to coach ty on the post game yesterday?....he admitted that he did not prepare his players as he should and he even said that he takes the blame...it takes a mature, honest person with integrity to admit to his shortcomings....am i using too bigga words....going too fast? we were out coached by play calling, assignment preparation and fundamentals...that is not to say that we are not good...but the bar is higher than just ok....so constructive insight (not by us) but by the coaches could improve our play to be superior.....it that to high of a bar to strive for? i thought we were here to do our best.....but then again i have not been here before.

Can you be more specific?

yes...but i would rather you watch the game and slow it down and you will be able to see what the o line is missing, what the secondary is doing or not doing and the level of intensity of each team and then make the call.
1.however, i will sight a few.....the eagles are 5-0 when they are ahead at halftime...got that from the m and g pregame show and they said (and i agree) something to the affect that we should play at a level that would not make that a plus factor for the eagles, play them on our terms not theirs.
2.secondly, hermy may have been good at one time a couple of years ago but he should not be a starter for the griz....if you look at the play in the first half where cooper kup goes up for that floater that vernon should not have put up (even the announcers on tv said that) hermy was in the best position to make that play, he was in front of the play, he saw it coming, (you slow down the replay and you see it) the only thing that he did not see what the cooper in front of him with his back to the play and did not get the inside position, but cooper did to make an amazing play on the ball....who wants it gets it, if you ever played the game.
3.also in the second quarter please note his tackling is opened arm no wrap and is fundamentally non threatening and his misses tackling the runner.
4.then there is coverage again with cooper just before the end of the second half we have 3 defensive players back there and he makes the catch and breaks 2 tackles for the td.
it was also mentioned on egriz, i think it was alpha that he counted 5 missed tackles for a td in the south endzone in the second half on a 10yd run
5.please watch the game and you will see several times that our o line is not effective to keep on the block for pass protection, creating holes, especially on broken plays were you have to really be aware of what is going on so you know who you should block...several missed stuff there. no excuses at this level....this is flatout coaching. did this happen every single time...NO..however, this is a game of percentages and you had better be in the upper 10% or you are not playing in championship games.
6 lastly, this is getting obsurd.....please look at the film and see who is creating blocks beyond the line of scrimmage on the lb's to give us more power to the run.....you would be shocked.
AGAIN...not saying we are not good....you have to understand there is difference between good, very good and excellent.....eagles overall where excellent from an objective view, we need to really look at our overall program compared to what it has been from a subjective view.
so......it comes down to this imo, i mentioned in another thread about yesterdays game it will come down to who you play, where you play them and how they are coached to play
kanangota defending a player on a 68yd pass play is just one example of this.
there are others but i have said enough.

Almost none of those things have anything to do with being out coached. Those are examples of not making the play or being outplayed.

Against Cal Poly, Hermie was UM's defensive player of the game--not Coyle, just fyi.

 

[PlayerRep]

so i assume that you did not see any areas in our offense or defense that needed better preparation yesterday? go back and watch the game using the pause/slow button you may be surprised. did you listen to coach ty on the post game yesterday?....he admitted that he did not prepare his players as he should and he even said that he takes the blame...it takes a mature, honest person with integrity to admit to his shortcomings....am i using too bigga words....going too fast? we were out coached by play calling, assignment preparation and fundamentals...that is not to say that we are not good...but the bar is higher than just ok....so constructive insight (not by us) but by the coaches could improve our play to be superior.....it that to high of a bar to strive for? i thought we were here to do our best.....but then again i have not been here before.

One of the reasons players love Gregorak is that he covers for them, treats them fairly, and knows how to coach. He's also a good guy. He doesn't blame his players in public. Don't think anyone should read too much into comments like that. Sure, after a game, coaches can almost always point out things they could have done better. Doesn't mean anyone was out coached. The EWU coach is a very good coach. Eastern made more plays than UM did. The coaches didn't fumble on the 20. They coaches didn't let no. 10 go up and catch difficult passes and take it away from our players. No. 10 did that. He's a terrific receiver. The coaches didn't let the EWU qb slip away from 4 pass rushers who were about to sack him, and then throw a TD pass. The coaches didn't make the incredible throws by the EWU qb when he was under pressure and otherwise. The coaches didn't miss a FG. The coaches didn't cause Chief to be unable to play. That is not to say that the coaches or team couldn't come up with a list of things they should have have done better.

 

[reinell30]

OK here it is...Coach D lets JJ run the offense his way! The O-line steps up finally and uses their big bodies to stop defenders from getting in the backfield! J Canada rushes for over 100 yds in each of the next four games! Ellis H. catches three touchdowns in each of the next four games! Griz go into the playoffs and host! Win first game by 20pts. Host second game and squeak out a 4 point win! Host third round game and here we go, win convincing by 31 points over an east coast team, (can't see the name of this team yet.) Bottom line is, let the players do what they do best, let them do what they were recruited to do, don't handicap them and hobble them with mediocre play calling. These guys are beasts, set them free!

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

+1000

 

[JayLarson]

The Griz opponents have found a blue print for beating the Griz, and here it is. The Grizzlies oline are all big, tall guys, who do not get very much leverage, so if you send both D tackles hard up the middle they will drive the lineman back, or just blow right by Poole, then you keep the Defensive Ends a little wider and have them rush in there wide so that JJ can't run the play action roll out. Then your defense can stop the Griz on first and second down, and then 3rd and long you have a decent chance of stopping them.

The Oline is has to do better imo, and they need to start recruiting some lineman that are a little bit shorter so that they can get leverage vs the d tackles.

 

[AZGrizFan]

The Griz opponents have found a blue print for beating the Griz, and here it is. The Grizzlies oline are all big, tall guys, who do not get very much leverage, so if you send both D tackles hard up the middle they will drive the lineman back, or just blow right by Poole, then you keep the Defensive Ends a little wider and have them rush in there wide so that JJ can't run the play action roll out. Then your defense can stop the Griz on first and second down, and then 3rd and long you have a decent chance of stopping them.

The Oline is has to do better imo, and they need to start recruiting some lineman that are a little bit shorter so that they can get leverage vs the d tackles.

And yet we scored 35 against that "blue print".

 

[PlayerRep]

The Griz opponents have found a blue print for beating the Griz, and here it is. The Grizzlies oline are all big, tall guys, who do not get very much leverage, so if you send both D tackles hard up the middle they will drive the lineman back, or just blow right by Poole, then you keep the Defensive Ends a little wider and have them rush in there wide so that JJ can't run the play action roll out. Then your defense can stop the Griz on first and second down, and then 3rd and long you have a decent chance of stopping them.

The Oline is has to do better imo, and they need to start recruiting some lineman that are a little bit shorter so that they can get leverage vs the d tackles.

And yet we scored 35 against that "blue print".

And we're 15th in the nation in scoring offense, 21st in total offense, gave up 1 sack this weekend, and 6-2. Have given up 1.25 sacks per games, tied for 24th. That's about 4th or 5th for teams in the top 25. I agree that the o-line has to do better.

 

[66volvo]

OK sugercoaters... face it, we just got outplayed by the better team on Saturday and Beau Baldwin owned us with better coaching and Vernon Adams made us his little bitches with blistering passes and clutch receivers and amazing footwork. Just think, he's just a sophomore and one of his key receivers is just a freshman. They have the potential to tear up the BSC in the next few years. So, in the damage control department...

1. Stop playing vanilla ball and open up the play book. Most teams have figured out our standard 13 plays that we run over and over. Let's try a screen (gasp) to a running back, a handoff to our two big fullbacks, a reverse, double reverse, running back option pass, more tight end throws, QB draw. Something!

 

[grizcountry420]

OK sugercoaters... face it, we just got outplayed by the better team on Saturday and Beau Baldwin owned us with better coaching and Vernon Adams made us his little bitches with blistering passes and clutch receivers and amazing footwork. Just think, he's just a sophomore and one of his key receivers is just a freshman. They have the potential to tear up the BSC in the next few years. So, in the damage control department...

1. Stop playing vanilla ball and open up the play book. Most teams have figured out our standard 13 plays that we run over and over. Let's try a screen (gasp) to a running back, a handoff to our two big fullbacks, a reverse, double reverse, running back option pass, more tight end throws, QB draw. Something!

exactly! Lots of sugarcoaters on here.. They are all starting to sound like Coach D with all of his excuses he keeps coming up with.. Good god!

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, the team needs to improve and avoid losses in the coming weeks. However, at least as of now, the wheels have not come off and prospects are good. The pollsters kept UM at no. 10, despite the loss. I guess they're sugarcoaters too and must not have read the posts of neggies on egriz.

 

[kevraid]

The griz beat 6 bad teams. We can pretend cal poly or PSU are good but fact is that both good teams that the Griz faced had 25 pt leads. The kids deserve better. There are 3 toss ups and weber st left.. No matter what the talent difference is the griz have not proven they are any better than sac state south dakota or cats... You can say if we just do things different we will win but fact is the GRIZ over 2 years prove they wont... Some can also pretend 8-3 is good. Talent watsed is the saddest part

 

[get'em_griz]

The griz beat 6 bad teams. We can pretend cal poly or PSU are good but fact is that both good teams that the Griz faced had 25 pt leads. The kids deserve better. There are 3 toss ups and weber st left.. No matter what the talent difference is the griz have not proven they are any better than sac state south dakota or cats... You can say if we just do things different we will win but fact is the GRIZ over 2 years prove they wont... Some can also pretend 8-3 is good. Talent watsed is the saddest part

I only see one toss up left on the schedule and that's the cats. Sac State and South Dakota are not toss ups.

 

[grizcountry420]

The griz beat 6 bad teams. We can pretend cal poly or PSU are good but fact is that both good teams that the Griz faced had 25 pt leads. The kids deserve better. There are 3 toss ups and weber st left.. No matter what the talent difference is the griz have not proven they are any better than sac state south dakota or cats... You can say if we just do things different we will win but fact is the GRIZ over 2 years prove they wont... Some can also pretend 8-3 is good. Talent watsed is the saddest part

I only see one toss up left on the schedule and that's the cats. Sac State and South Dakota are not toss ups.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.....

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Yes, the team needs to improve and avoid losses in the coming weeks. However, at least as of now, the wheels have not come off and prospects are good. The pollsters kept UM at no. 10, despite the loss. I guess they're sugarcoaters too and must not have read the posts of neggies on egriz.

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[kevraid]

why? common opponent sac st 38-39 vs nau...s dakota lost to nau by 6 and took uni to ot on the road other common opp for yer argument they beat davis by 3... So what have the griz done to make you think they are so much better than these 2??? so I will agree if our Griz change but why do you think the Griz will stop pounding thier heads against the wall till they have to change?

The griz beat 6 bad teams. We can pretend cal poly or PSU are good but fact is that both good teams that the Griz faced had 25 pt leads. The kids deserve better. There are 3 toss ups and weber st left.. No matter what the talent difference is the griz have not proven they are any better than sac state south dakota or cats... You can say if we just do things different we will win but fact is the GRIZ over 2 years prove they wont... Some can also pretend 8-3 is good. Talent watsed is the saddest part

I only see one toss up left on the schedule and that's the cats. Sac State and South Dakota are not toss ups.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.....

 

[blazerbird]

Wait a minute. You guys are still moving up, right?

 

[kevraid]

Not till the Griz get that Allatoona Bucs pipeline set

Wait a minute. You guys are still moving up, right?

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, the team needs to improve and avoid losses in the coming weeks. However, at least as of now, the wheels have not come off and prospects are good. The pollsters kept UM at no. 10, despite the loss. I guess they're sugarcoaters too and must not have read the posts of neggies on egriz.

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Just saw that update in the other poll thread. Thx.

 

[get'em_griz]

why? common opponent sac st 38-39 vs nau...s dakota lost to nau by 6 and took uni to ot on the road other common opp for yer argument they beat davis by 3... So what have the griz done to make you think they are so much better than these 2??? so I will agree if our Griz change but why do you think the Griz will stop pounding thier heads against the wall till they have to change?

The griz beat 6 bad teams. We can pretend cal poly or PSU are good but fact is that both good teams that the Griz faced had 25 pt leads. The kids deserve better. There are 3 toss ups and weber st left.. No matter what the talent difference is the griz have not proven they are any better than sac state south dakota or cats... You can say if we just do things different we will win but fact is the GRIZ over 2 years prove they wont... Some can also pretend 8-3 is good. Talent watsed is the saddest part

I only see one toss up left on the schedule and that's the cats. Sac State and South Dakota are not toss ups.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.....

I guess I look at it as we had a really bad game against NAU and didn't perform like we should have against EWU. Both games were very winnable if we would have played our game the way we can. And I'd say the Griz have proven they are leaps better than they were last year.

Looking at South Dakota, we should win it. I don't think their close loss against UNI as great because The wheels for UNI have fallen off, losing four games in a row. And Sac isn't the same team they were the last few years. I guess I think it's more probable that we win the next two games than losing them.

 

[kevraid]

I can respect that and the probable comment.. I also see cal poly at griz ended up being a toss up....It seems like the Griz should win but on field peformance doesnt seem to show we are truly legitimately way better than these 2 mediocre teams.. By the way on gameday I will have same thoughts as you

why? common opponent sac st 38-39 vs nau...s dakota lost to nau by 6 and took uni to ot on the road other common opp for yer argument they beat davis by 3... So what have the griz done to make you think they are so much better than these 2??? so I will agree if our Griz change but why do you think the Griz will stop pounding thier heads against the wall till they have to change?

I only see one toss up left on the schedule and that's the cats. Sac State and South Dakota are not toss ups.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.....

I guess I look at it as we had a really bad game against NAU and didn't perform like we should have against EWU. Both games were very winnable if we would have played our game the way we can. And I'd say the Griz have proven they are leaps better than they were last year.

Looking at South Dakota, we should win it. I don't think their close loss against UNI as great because The wheels for UNI have fallen off, losing four games in a row. And Sac isn't the same team they were the last few years. I guess I think it's more probable that we win the next two games than losing them.