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Transfer Bobcat Cornerback Dismissed from Team Yesterday
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garizzalies
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garizzalies
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The second time a Cat girlfriend was slapped up this year? What's with these guys?
No, that was a position where we needed a transfer with experience. The Cats wanted him. Too bad he screwed up.
Vigen has had significant character issues in his time at msu. Alcoholic and abusive assistant coaches that he refuses to hold accountable, and bringing in recruits with domestic abusive problems. Isn't it time that "enough is enough", and vigen is held accountable? I dont think he has the backbone to hold others accountable and hold his coaches and players to a standard.
The two players did not have any record of domestic abuse problems before they came in. One of the coaches had an alcohol problem before coming in. He had been sober for a good period of time I believe before coming to MSU. I never heard of any domestic abuse problems before with the other coach. His alcohol problem surfaced after coming to MSU.
Sounds like a lot of excuses and lack of any sort of ability to judge character. Unless there is something about bozeman and / or the athletic dept that magically develops these issues once they make it to campus. Or might it be a leadership that lacks the ability to hold people accountable ?
HikeGlacier
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Or, there followed the law and didn't waste money paying lawsuits like UM.
Probably a failure of the crystal ball!
The only people a post like this "unmasks" are the assholes who celebrate a domestic assault case because it happened on the rival sports team and not their own. And there are Bobcat fans who are also assholes and have done the same thing in the past. Don't be an asshole, it's easy.
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I agree, its absolutely nothing to joke about. I think its a serious problem at msu currently. There seems to be a lack of oversight and accountability within the program. The boosters need to hold them accountable.
What would you like them to do, personally supervise all 105 players on the roster 24 hours a day to make sure they aren't doing anything stupid? Serious question, how do you stop this kind of thing from ever happening with a 100% success rate? Because not a single NCAA program has ever managed to do that to this point.
Walrus
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We all know that perfect is the enemy of good, but maybe they should stop hiring violent alcoholics to coach the team?
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Its become systemic. 3 coaches and at least 2 players w abuse and/or alcohol problems. Vigen hasn't been there that long. Its something that needs to be examined by the new president.
Agreed, hiring Garza as DC was a dumb move. Doesn't answer the question I asked about how to prevent off-field issues among a group of 105 players with a 100% success rate. Looking forward to some serious answers there if we're going to go all holier than thou in this thread.
Dude should have gotten a DUI and covered up for another DUI wreck….they would have given him a coach position after he graduated!
Nick, in all seriousness, where is this mythical football program that has never had any issues with its players?
Holier than thou!? The answer is obvious. You as a fan (booster) are being pathetic by rationalizing thr behavior and suggesting 5+ serious incidents by players AND coaches is somehow out of anyone's control. Its call being a leader. Demand accountability. Hold everyone to a standard. Bring people in with character. If you cant do that, you probably shouldn't be a head coach. And yes, things happen and 1 incident doesn't define a program or coach. But MSU has had a TON. Somehow MSU is getting away with it, and it comes down to boosters not holding the dept accountable.
The excuse of " we cant control everyone!" Is the loser excuse and is not fair to the community, the victims etc. It's loser mentality.
Now you're making excuses for them ?! A football program that RETAINS 2 coaches that get DUIs, and one that crashed a vehicle, and is having multiple players dismissed for domestic abuse. Within like 3 years.... WTF are you smoking ??
