Where's the Outrage?

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

...The NCAA has finally sent a minor letter of inquiry. Some people think it's just belated CYA. Involved NCAA athletes in gymnastics, softball, cross country, crew. Nassar was team physician to 2 women's varsity teams at Mich. St. The NCAA is a joke. Incompetent and clueless. Corrupt.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/college/2018/01/25/The-NCAA-s-inquiry-to-Michigan-State-amid-the-Larry-Nassar-scandal-is-reminding-some-of-Penn-State/stories/201801240246

Agreed.

2 more kickass articles from Katie Strang on this:
Michigan State has botched handling of Larry Nassar case at every turn: https://theathletic.com/220347/2018...-handling-of-larry-nassar-case-at-every-turn/

A sense of triumph for survivors as justice is served to Larry Nassar: https://theathletic.com/221332/2018...rvivors-as-justice-is-served-to-larry-nassar/

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Here's all the articles in order by Katie Strang of The Athletic, listed in order. Great journalism and will give anybody who reads these a sense of perspective. I'm not surprised this hasn't received more coverage, but it should.

Jan. 15th
Analyzing the legal complexities of the Larry Nassar case and MSU's role:
https://theathletic.com/212600/2018...ities-of-the-larry-nassar-case-and-msus-role/

Jan. 17th
A reckoning for Larry Nassar as his victims confront his abuse:
https://theathletic.com/214213/2018...rry-nassar-as-his-victims-confront-his-abuse/

Jan. 19th
Survivors of Larry Nassar's sexual abuse set their sights on MSU, Simon:
https://theathletic.com/215955/2018...s-sexual-abuse-set-their-sights-on-msu-simon/

Jan. 20th
Endorsement of MSU President Simon a 'slap in the face' for Nassar's survivors:
https://theathletic.com/217215/2018...mon-a-slap-in-the-face-for-nassars-survivors/

Jan. 23rd
Effects of Larry Nassar's abuse extend beyond survivors:
https://theathletic.com/219461/2018/01/23/effects-of-larry-nassars-abuse-extend-beyond-survivors/

Jan. 24th
Michigan State has botched handling of Larry Nassar case at every turn:
https://theathletic.com/220347/2018...-handling-of-larry-nassar-case-at-every-turn/

Jan. 25th
A sense of triumph for survivors as justice is served to Larry Nassar:
https://theathletic.com/221332/2018...rvivors-as-justice-is-served-to-larry-nassar/

 

[garizzalies]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Well - to bring this back to football - can you imagine if something like this happened on the FCS level for football? If so, do you think it would be more of a big deal than this? I definitely think so because football is perceived as the more "popular" sport. Makes the speed bumps the Griz football team has went through pretty tame in comparison.

 

[PlayerRep]

Is the NCAA involved with football and FCS football, and were involved bit at Penn St (football), and are finally stepping in towards this one? Is it not permitted to talk about the NCAA in this forum?

I have never understood why people complain about thread topics. Especially in the off-season. If they don't like the topic, then why do they open the thread. Especially in the off-season.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Well PR, you might finally see the national outrage that was directed at Penn St.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756139-report-michigan-st-suppressed-allegations-involving-sports-beyond-larry-nassar?share=other

http://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/956957411901956096

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

Way to come off as a total douche nozzle. Don’t click on the one thread that’s discussing it if you don’t want to talk about it.

 

[bgbigdog]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/otlonespn/status/956954322289528833[/tweet]

Can Krakwhore be far behind?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Keeps getting worse...be interesting to see how this is handled compared to what we went through as a University after being falsely accused.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

 

[PlayerRep]

Well PR, you might finally see the national outrage that was directed at Penn St.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756139-report-michigan-st-suppressed-allegations-involving-sports-beyond-larry-nassar?share=other

http://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/956957411901956096

Sure, now that there are some football players in the spotlight, the outrage is there. Ha/

Actually, the outrage has built recently and is coming now. The judge allowing all victims to speak at the sentencing really increased the pressure, press and attention. I have now seen lots of articles and people sort of agreeing with those of us who were asking where's the outrage and whether football v. gymnastics and women's sports had something to do with it.

And, I still think what Nassar did was way worse than what Sandusky did. Longer period of time. Many more victims. Multiple times with the victims, including one said 200 times. Multiple people at Mich St and US Gymnastics were told or had seen red flags, compared to a few with limited info at Penn St.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Well PR, you might finally see the national outrage that was directed at Penn St.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756139-report-michigan-st-suppressed-allegations-involving-sports-beyond-larry-nassar?share=other

http://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/956957411901956096

Sure, now that there are some football players in the spotlight, the outrage is there. Ha/

Actually, the outrage has built recently and is coming now. The judge allowing all victims to speak at the sentencing really increased the pressure, press and attention. I have now seen lots of articles and people sort of agreeing with those of us who were asking where's the outrage and whether football v. gymnastics and women's sports had something to do with it.

And, I still think what Nassar did was way worse than what Sandusky did. Longer period of time. Many more victims. Multiple times with the victims, including one said 200 times. Multiple people at Mich St and US Gymnastics were told or had seen red flags, compared to a few with limited info at Penn St.

Another breaking story.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756172-us-gymnastics-board-to-comply-with-usoc-resign-amid-larry-nassar-scandal?share=other

I thought it was good she made him listen to all of their statements. I believe facing your tormenter is probably a big step for the healing process for these girls. It’s unbelievable how big this is getting and just how many people are involved in some way. The way things can be covered up at the sake of success is scary in this country.

I agree, it might be worse what he’s done just from the sheer magnitude of it but it certainly doesn’t lessen the evilness of what Sandusky did or even what one person does to just one child. Though how GG has pointed out, some of these victimizer’s probably have loved ones that care about them, it still takes a sick and disturbed individual to pray on the innocence of children.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

Way to come off as a total douche nozzle. Don’t click on the one thread that’s discussing it if you don’t want to talk about it.

What would be cool is a "hide thread" function so you could collapse and shorten the list you see when you open the forum and just forget about the threads you dont like.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

Way to come off as a total douche nozzle. Don’t click on the one thread that’s discussing it if you don’t want to talk about it.

What would be cool is a "hide thread" function so you could collapse and shorten the list you see when you open the forum and just forget about the threads you dont like.

That’s a pretty damn good idea. Has this ever been pitched to the mods?

 

[alabamagrizzly]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/otlonespn/status/956954322289528833[/tweet]

Can Krakwhore be far behind?

Sounds like he needs to straight to the top.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756210-mark-emmert-was-made-aware-of-michigan-state-sexual-assault-reports-in-2010?share=other

NCAA president Mark Emmert was made aware of sexual assault reports at Michigan State University in 2010.

Kathy Redmond, founder of the National Coalition Against Violent Athletes, gave Nicole Auerbach of The Athletic a copy of a letter dated November 17, 2010, which she sent to Emmert that urged "him to better protect women with new, stronger gender violence policy measures."

Auerbach specifically highlighted the fourth paragraph of the letter that cited reports of sexual violence involving two Michigan State basketball players:

"For example, despite recent reports of sexual violence involving two Michigan State University (MSU) basketball players, one of which admitted to raping the victim, neither man was charged criminally or even disciplined by the school. An earlier report of similar violence involving two other MSU basketball players also went un-redressed. In the past two years alone, 37 reports of sexual assault by MSU athletes have been reported, but not one disciplinary sanction was imposed by school officials against any of the men involved."

 

[tourist]

Sounds like a damning claim which, if proved true, by all standards of equity, should result in death penalty violation for the various programs by the NCAA. Compared to what UM endured over a unproven CLAIM, Michigan State athletics should disappear from the face of the earth. I think we all know this will never happen. Double standards for little fish and the big boys. To hell with the NCAA.

 

[GGNez]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

Way to come off as a total douche nozzle. Don’t click on the one thread that’s discussing it if you don’t want to talk about it.

+1

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Wait, what? 37 reports to the NCAA in 2010. I think Emmert is a bum for many reasons, but this is, just, wow.

https://www.barstoolsports.com/bars...ual-assaults-in-2010-and-did-nothing-about-it

 

[AZGrizFan]

Mods, can you please start a forum for sexual harassment-related threads? I just wanna talk football and this is going on like 10 years now. Here’s some possible names for such a forum:
Sacks and the city
Mamma Bears
Victorious Secret
Apple bottom turnovers
Bloodbath and beyond

Way to come off as a total douche nozzle. Don’t click on the one thread that’s discussing it if you don’t want to talk about it.

+1

It’s taken you guys until NOW to figure out garizzlies? :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

Wait, what? 37 reports to the NCAA in 2010. I think Emmert is a bum for many reasons, but this is, just, wow.

https://www.barstoolsports.com/bars...ual-assaults-in-2010-and-did-nothing-about-it

Interesting. With both the recent Nassar press and now this, I wonder what the ncaa and others will do. Lots of bad press and pressure coming.

Again, is the new elevation of old football/basketball sexual assault allegations, going to propel this beyond what assault of young women/girls has? What is the ncaa going to look at? Nassar, or the old football/basketball stuff, or both?

What caused Emmert to go after Penn St so quickly and so hard? By the way, I thought ncaa was completely off base and out of line with what they did with Penn St.

And, compare these Mich St. scandals to the tiny amount of stuff that occurred at UM involving athletes. Nice job Engstrom, Pat Williams and Florio/Missoulian. And I guess Krakauer too.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Wait, what? 37 reports to the NCAA in 2010. I think Emmert is a bum for many reasons, but this is, just, wow.

https://www.barstoolsports.com/bars...ual-assaults-in-2010-and-did-nothing-about-it

Interesting. With both the recent Nassar press and now this, I wonder what the ncaa and others will do. Lots of bad press and pressure coming.

Again, is the new elevation of old football/basketball sexual assault allegations, going to propel this beyond what assault of young women/girls has? What is the ncaa going to look at? Nassar, or the old football/basketball stuff, or both?

What caused Emmert to go after Penn St so quickly and so hard? By the way, I thought ncaa was completely off base and out of line with what they did with Penn St.

And, compare these Mich St. scandals to the tiny amount of stuff that occurred at UM involving athletes. Nice job Engstrom, Pat Williams and Florio/Missoulian. And I guess Krakauer too.

There’s no “guessing” about Krackwhore. He’s 100% complicit in what happened to UM.