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News Story about Haslems decision

AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)
7-4 is your idea of success ?
if that is the new bar then ok for you. some of us remember when that was not but if we wait for stitt to get his guys then the people who remember will be dead and then 7-4 will be ok
 
AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)
Ask any MSU fan, player or coach whether they would like to change positions with us.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Hey kem, I don't think anybody is clear about your position on Stitt.
I'll keep working on it until I get it right. Ever notice I don't start things; I just respond to some the stupid stuff that gets posted here.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)
How many OOC teams did the griz play that are in the playoffs?

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AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)

Why were both in the same position now. No playoffs and lost the Brawl. I’d rather be in their position today.
 
Lovethecats75 said:
AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)
How many OOC teams did the griz play that are in the playoffs?

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None. Washington (9-2), Valparaiso (6-5), Savannah St. (3-8)
 
kyle_sample said:
Paytonlives said:
kyle_sample said:
Paytonlives said:
By Colter Nuanez

With an embittered wave of his hand, Montana athletic director Kent Haslam swiped his winter hat off his head and wiped his reddened face. Haslam looked like a man with a painful decision to make.

By all accounts, that’s exactly what awaits Haslam.

As Haslam stood alone on the fifth floor of Bobcat Stadium, a party not seen in Bozeman in 12 years was in its infancy. Bobcat players and coaches mixed with a tidal wave of fans on the stadium’s turf to celebrate Montana State’s 31-23 win over the Grizzlies. Where the party was going was anybody’s guess. Chris Murray, the sophomore Bobcat quarterback with a million dollar smile and two wins over his rival, was asked how he thought he would celebrate. He didn’t know.

In that way, and that way only, do Murray’s and Haslam’s immediate futures dovetail.

While Murray will certainly revel in Saturday’s outcome, Haslam will deplore it. If it hasn’t happened already, in the coming days Haslam will determine the fate of head coach Bob Stitt, undoubtedly one of the most important decisions during Haslam’s tenure at Montana.

On the eve of Montana’s loss to the Bobcats, its first in Bozeman since 2005, a source texted Skyline Sports that a powerful and well connected booster had met with Haslam. The influential source said he was told that Montana had decided to extend its coach’s contract; Stitt would remain coach for three more years if he beat the Cats, and one year if he lost. According to sources familiar with the conversation, the booster told Haslam that he was risking further donations and putting his job in jeopardy by keeping Stitt in place for another three-year contract.

In the eyes of the donor class, many of whom have made their displeasure with the head coach known, what is at stake is a further slide into a mediocrity that has gripped the program for the better part of the decade. They fear a whitewashing of the prestige the program had built during a wildly successful 25-year run that produced two national championships, 17 consecutive playoff berths, 15 conference championships and what seemed to be a permanent place among the FCS’ most powerful programs.

Montana’s — and Stitt’s — second consecutive loss to the Bobcats further entrenched those fears.

“He should be gone,” said one booster.

“I think the program has gone down hill (sic) since (former head coach Mick) Delaney’s last 2 years,” added another booster.
When Haslam went to sleep Friday night, his defense of Stitt was an understandable one. Haslam has a coach with one playoff appearance, last season’s 6-5 disappointment and what appeared to be a difficult, but winnable game Saturday that would send the Griz back to the playoffs for the second time. The coach has a winning record despite heavily relying on backup quarterbacks. And Stitt has recruited a stable of talented, young players that created a hope for the future. That, according to sources, is what Haslam was going to use as his defense for extending Stitt.

“Haslam is defending the roster number of freshman,” one source wrote.

When Haslam goes to sleep on Saturday, that justification may have crumbled under the weight of a crushing loss that only became more difficult to swallow as the night went on. Six teams Montana was presumably on the FCS playoff bubble with all lost during the final week of the regular season, leaving the question of if the Griz will extend their season unanswered.

Even worse, the loss to the Cats was a glimpse into the rollercoaster ride Montana has been on since Stitt was hired.

A maligned defense again couldn’t solve its rival’s prolific rushing attack. It gave up big plays and worse, it appeared to take unnecessary risks that put the Griz in trouble. Instead of dropping seven or eight defenders, defensive coordinator Jason Semore sent the house on a third-and-21 that resulted in a 71-yard Nick LaSane touchdown that buried Montana in a 14-3 hole.

Stitt’s offense struggled in short yardage situations and was kept well below its season average scoring output by a defense that held it in check for a second consecutive year.

Perhaps the most maddening aspect of the loss to alums and boosters was that in a game that had outsized impact on the program’s playoff chances, the tight-knit team Stitt has described throughout the season looked to onlookers like a group more ready for the off-season than the most important game of the season.

“The sideline was flat. No energy, no will. That’s unacceptable,” a former player wrote in a message to Skyline Sports.

Even Murray noticed something was amiss with the Griz.

“Today we just had that bond,” said the Bobcats quarterback. “I honestly think Montana doesn’t have that type of bond and I think that’s been the difference the past two years.”

Whether or not Haslam has made a decision regarding his coach is yet to be determined. He may be waiting for the FCS selection committee to reveal the 2017 playoff bracket. Or he may have already agreed in principle with his coach. Haslam declined on Tuesday an opportunity to clear the air during an interview with an interview on ESPN Missoula, saying that he and Stitt would discuss an extension after the season.

However Haslam proceeds, there are few who would chose to trade places with him as the 2017 regular season draws to a close. As one booster put it, “(I) wouldn’t want to take all the shit Haslam will take if he extends Stitt.”

Photos by Brooks Nuanez and Jason Bacaj. All Rights Reserved.

I actually wrote that

Sorry... thats how the website had it listed... my apologies.

Not your fault. It actually led to us seeing the mistake and correcting it

It's a terrific article, but I can't believe you can't remember your name when you do your byline. Ha.
 
Paytonlives said:
kemajic said:
Paytonlives said:
bigkid said:
What a nightmare. Bob Stitt rides into Missoula with a load of shit, sells it, and makes it smell good.
In the meantime the cats begin a period of dominance, increase its fan base, and make it look easy.
Being at the game the two sidelines look completely different. cats are fired up and ready to get er done. Grizzly sidelines looks subdued and robotic. I guess we’ll just have to wait for msu to win 16 straight before someone wakes us the f### up. :twisted:

They have 3 straight losing seasons...
They have been the best football team in the state the last two years.

Big picture vs. little picture.

Do you or anyone think that the Cats led by Choate are not on the way up. Wait till they get their players. The word I get from Bozeman is that MSU is still lacking players and working on getting the needed horses. Speaking of that, did the Griz recruit that big frosh runner from Dillon? That kid is good. Also, who was the best qb on the field yesterday?
 
Clean the slate and move on...two years in a row we have been out played and out coached and the last time we won it was with Mick's kids. If Kent doesn't get it then maybe there should be more than one opening.
 
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

Didn't UM go from 6-5 to 7-4? Assume that's the "sharp upward trend" that some posters have been talking about. Ya, we didn't beat the Cats again and probably won't make the playoffs again, but we beat UNC this year.
 
PlayerRep said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

Didn't UM go from 6-5 to 7-4? Assume that's the "sharp upward trend" that some posters have been talking about. Ya, we didn't beat the Cats again and probably won't make the playoffs again, but we beat UNC this year.
Killed Valpo and Savannah St.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)

So, based on that and perhaps other things, you think UM is in a sharp upward trend, but the Cats aren't trending up?
 
PlayerRep said:
Paytonlives said:
kemajic said:
Paytonlives said:
They have 3 straight losing seasons...
They have been the best football team in the state the last two years.

Big picture vs. little picture.

Do you or anyone think that the Cats led by Choate are not on the way up. Wait till they get their players. The word I get from Bozeman is that MSU is still lacking players and working on getting the needed horses. Speaking of that, did the Griz recruit that big frosh runner from Dillon? That kid is good. Also, who was the best qb on the field yesterday?

PR, still havent been able to watch the game as I am out of town working. Did Jensen play poorly yesterday?
 
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

I'll take 7-4 over 5-6 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. :)
7-4 is your idea of success ?
if that is the new bar then ok for you. some of us remember when that was not but if we wait for stitt to get his guys then the people who remember will be dead and then 7-4 will be ok

Yes, 7-4, losing to Cats, and not making the playoffs, in year 3 (and year 2, except for UNC), is what the bar should be. But the schedule looks pretty hard next year, so perhaps there will be a pass for year 4, and we'll see how year 5 goes.
 
PlayerRep said:
Paytonlives said:
kemajic said:
Paytonlives said:
They have 3 straight losing seasons...
They have been the best football team in the state the last two years.

Big picture vs. little picture.

Do you or anyone think that the Cats led by Choate are not on the way up. Wait till they get their players. The word I get from Bozeman is that MSU is still lacking players and working on getting the needed horses. Speaking of that, did the Griz recruit that big frosh runner from Dillon? That kid is good. Also, who was the best qb on the field yesterday?
The

Their streak is now two...and PR you are correct about MSU and unless changes occur at UM that streak could become significantly longer.

All the crap Stitt spewed about the last 365 days doing what was needed to get the team back to where it should be was car salesman pitch, and so many bought into it they now see the lemon they own. Trust him again if he keeps a couple coaches? Shame on those that do...
 
cmtgrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Paytonlives said:
kemajic said:
They have been the best football team in the state the last two years.

Big picture vs. little picture.

Do you or anyone think that the Cats led by Choate are not on the way up. Wait till they get their players. The word I get from Bozeman is that MSU is still lacking players and working on getting the needed horses. Speaking of that, did the Griz recruit that big frosh runner from Dillon? That kid is good. Also, who was the best qb on the field yesterday?

PR, still havent been able to watch the game as I am out of town working. Did Jensen play poorly yesterday?

No, he didn't play poorly. He looked sharp on the first drive. I felt good about the O after that drive, but then the O got inconsistent. But he did have 2 turnovers in the second half. A pick and a fumble. The D got a 3 and out after the pick, so we didn't give up points, but we didn't get momentum going and needed it after the Cats had a long, maybe 16 play, drive eating up almost 9 minutes, to start the 2d half. Got only 3 points, tho, after the D stiffened in the red zone.

UM couldn't use its run game as much, as they needed to pass to get 2 scores, as the clock ticked down. Cats were able to be more aggressive on D. Jensen was under more pressure. Jensen appeared to have hurt his right hand later in 4th Q. That didn't help. He fought hard in the circumstances, but he and the O didn't make enough plays. The Cat QB was a finding a way to make more plays, and he hurt us more in the second half than he did in the first half.

Cat QB ended up with better efficiency rating. He was very good yesterday. He is very fast and shifty and didn't make mistakes. Jensen is young and will get better and better. I don't blame anything on Jensen. I'm glad we have him.
 
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

Didn't UM go from 6-5 to 7-4? Assume that's the "sharp upward trend" that some posters have been talking about. Ya, we didn't beat the Cats again and probably won't make the playoffs again, but we beat UNC this year.
Killed Valpo and Savannah St.

And UNC.
 
PlayerRep said:
fanofzoo said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Haslam should have extended the contract BEFORE the Cat-Griz game. Now he's in a hell of a mess because he made it appear the decision was contingent on the game's outcome, as if that was going to affect Stitt's (or the team's) performance.

We lost a game. It's not the end of the world. People need to get a grip.

i believe "trending" is the word and it ain't good

Didn't UM go from 6-5 to 7-4? Assume that's the "sharp upward trend" that some posters have been talking about. Ya, we didn't beat the Cats again and probably won't make the playoffs again, but we beat UNC this year.

We may have won 7 games but non of those games were quality wins. Sure, you could say... well we beat NAU but in reality if Cookus didn't get ejected, we don't win that game. The opponents we did beat though had a combined record of....
26-50

I can't justify how some posters think that's an upward trend.
 
PlayerRep said:
cmtgrizzly said:
PlayerRep said:
Paytonlives said:
Big picture vs. little picture.

Do you or anyone think that the Cats led by Choate are not on the way up. Wait till they get their players. The word I get from Bozeman is that MSU is still lacking players and working on getting the needed horses. Speaking of that, did the Griz recruit that big frosh runner from Dillon? That kid is good. Also, who was the best qb on the field yesterday?

PR, still havent been able to watch the game as I am out of town working. Did Jensen play poorly yesterday?

No, he didn't play poorly. He looked sharp on the first drive. I felt good about the O after that drive, but then the O got inconsistent. But he did have 2 turnovers in the second half. A pick and a fumble. The D got a 3 and out after the pick, so we didn't give up points, but we didn't get momentum going and needed it after the Cats had a long, maybe 16 play, drive eating up almost 9 minutes, to start the 2d half. Got only 3 points, tho, after the D stiffened in the red zone.

UM couldn't use its run game as much, as they needed to pass to get 2 scores, as the clock ticked down. Cats were able to be more aggressive on D. Jensen was under more pressure. Jensen appeared to have hurt his right hand later in 4th Q. That didn't help. He fought hard in the circumstances, but he and the O didn't make enough plays. The Cat QB was a finding a way to make more plays, and he hurt us more in the second half than he did in the first half.

Cat QB ended up with better efficiency rating. He was very good yesterday. He is very fast and shifty and didn't make mistakes. Jensen is young and will get better and better. I don't blame anything on Jensen. I'm glad we have him.

Cool. Thanks. Sounds like some drops by receivers as well. I agree I do think Jensen will be great regardless of coaching
 
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