HelenaHandBasket
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Bozo JrCollegeofAG said:The Missoulian is a dumpster fire....
I think ARGH lives in a dumpster.......
Bozo JrCollegeofAG said:The Missoulian is a dumpster fire....
argh! said:"...incredibly arrogant..."
"...wish people would quit reading...what i write."
statler & waldorf said:argh! said:"...wish people would quit reading...what i write."
HelenaHandBasket said:Bozo JrCollegeofAG said:The Missoulian is a dumpster fire....
I think ARGH lives in a dumpster.......
PlayerRep said:argh, why do you think it's so hard to ask a source at the university what data is available and when/how it could be provided to a new consultant expected to be hired (at no cost)? Other than general competence,and enough drive to keep the ball moving, I see no need for any specific knowledge or skills. She appears to have been acting as a go-between, after nothing had gotten for several weeks. And she had the authority and ear of her husband, who wanted this done. Had he not been working on the process and plan to make some cuts and restructure, and probably consult endless people, and hire a Provost, and do the normal presidential duties, he probably could have done it himself.
If the outgoing enrollment VP has his nose bent out of shape, and is pouting and staging a slow down, someone needs to step up to get things done.
In my experience with universities, including my school and UM, I often see or sense an incredible lack of urgency to move things along, make decisions and get things done. Compared to business and law, where there is a different ethic and high competition, it sometimes seems that some university processes are stuck in quicksand. Universities are not the same as businesses, but they could use more financial skills and more of a sense of urgency. Some at UM seem to act like they are in unions. Maybe they are.
argh! said:tnt said:It's certainly no wonder why the level of research and publishing coming from the UM is nearly in the toilet save a few projects which interestingly are medical in nature.
can you provide some evidence for this statement(bqm)
argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh, why do you think it's so hard to ask a source at the university what data is available and when/how it could be provided to a new consultant expected to be hired (at no cost)? Other than general competence,and enough drive to keep the ball moving, I see no need for any specific knowledge or skills. She appears to have been acting as a go-between, after nothing had gotten for several weeks. And she had the authority and ear of her husband, who wanted this done. Had he not been working on the process and plan to make some cuts and restructure, and probably consult endless people, and hire a Provost, and do the normal presidential duties, he probably could have done it himself.
If the outgoing enrollment VP has his nose bent out of shape, and is pouting and staging a slow down, someone needs to step up to get things done.
In my experience with universities, including my school and UM, I often see or sense an incredible lack of urgency to move things along, make decisions and get things done. Compared to business and law, where there is a different ethic and high competition, it sometimes seems that some university processes are stuck in quicksand. Universities are not the same as businesses, but they could use more financial skills and more of a sense of urgency. Some at UM seem to act like they are in unions. Maybe they are.
i agree someone needs to step up and get things done, but when it comes to requesting data sets that belong to um, from um employees who answer to her husband, mrs. bodnar is not that person. pretty sure i've already been over why i think so.
argh! said:HelenaHandBasket said:Bozo JrCollegeofAG said:The Missoulian is a dumpster fire....
I think ARGH lives in a dumpster.......
no, that is ci-tay who lives in a dumpster. in an alley in chinatown.
PlayerRep said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh, why do you think it's so hard to ask a source at the university what data is available and when/how it could be provided to a new consultant expected to be hired (at no cost)? Other than general competence,and enough drive to keep the ball moving, I see no need for any specific knowledge or skills. She appears to have been acting as a go-between, after nothing had gotten for several weeks. And she had the authority and ear of her husband, who wanted this done. Had he not been working on the process and plan to make some cuts and restructure, and probably consult endless people, and hire a Provost, and do the normal presidential duties, he probably could have done it himself.
If the outgoing enrollment VP has his nose bent out of shape, and is pouting and staging a slow down, someone needs to step up to get things done.
In my experience with universities, including my school and UM, I often see or sense an incredible lack of urgency to move things along, make decisions and get things done. Compared to business and law, where there is a different ethic and high competition, it sometimes seems that some university processes are stuck in quicksand. Universities are not the same as businesses, but they could use more financial skills and more of a sense of urgency. Some at UM seem to act like they are in unions. Maybe they are.
i agree someone needs to step up and get things done, but when it comes to requesting data sets that belong to um, from um employees who answer to her husband, mrs. bodnar is not that person. pretty sure i've already been over why i think so.
Don't think she requested data sets for herself. Why would she want to see stuff like that? She wanted to see what was available and help facilitate getting the data to the new consultant.
Show us where she requested data sets for herself?
snap said:We need a final solution.
argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh, why do you think it's so hard to ask a source at the university what data is available and when/how it could be provided to a new consultant expected to be hired (at no cost)? Other than general competence,and enough drive to keep the ball moving, I see no need for any specific knowledge or skills. She appears to have been acting as a go-between, after nothing had gotten for several weeks. And she had the authority and ear of her husband, who wanted this done. Had he not been working on the process and plan to make some cuts and restructure, and probably consult endless people, and hire a Provost, and do the normal presidential duties, he probably could have done it himself.
If the outgoing enrollment VP has his nose bent out of shape, and is pouting and staging a slow down, someone needs to step up to get things done.
In my experience with universities, including my school and UM, I often see or sense an incredible lack of urgency to move things along, make decisions and get things done. Compared to business and law, where there is a different ethic and high competition, it sometimes seems that some university processes are stuck in quicksand. Universities are not the same as businesses, but they could use more financial skills and more of a sense of urgency. Some at UM seem to act like they are in unions. Maybe they are.
i agree someone needs to step up and get things done, but when it comes to requesting data sets that belong to um, from um employees who answer to her husband, mrs. bodnar is not that person. pretty sure i've already been over why i think so.
Don't think she requested data sets for herself. Why would she want to see stuff like that? She wanted to see what was available and help facilitate getting the data to the new consultant.
Show us where she requested data sets for herself?
where did you get that i wrote she requested data sets for herself, greenie(bqm) she requested them (herself...). that is the issue. if you or i requested those data sets, whether for your dog or my cat, or whatever, we'd be told to f-off, regardless of why. we aren't married to bodnar.
you aren't very good at thinking things through, are you(bqm)
PlayerRep said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh! said:i agree someone needs to step up and get things done, but when it comes to requesting data sets that belong to um, from um employees who answer to her husband, mrs. bodnar is not that person. pretty sure i've already been over why i think so.
Don't think she requested data sets for herself. Why would she want to see stuff like that? She wanted to see what was available and help facilitate getting the data to the new consultant.
Show us where she requested data sets for herself?
where did you get that i wrote she requested data sets for herself, greenie(bqm) she requested them (herself...). that is the issue. if you or i requested those data sets, whether for your dog or my cat, or whatever, we'd be told to f-off, regardless of why. we aren't married to bodnar.
you aren't very good at thinking things through, are you(bqm)
Well, part of the point is that she is married to Bodnar and he told people she was doing this at his request. My guess is that if Bodnar told me (or most anyone with some standing at UM or in Missoula) to do this, and said that I was doing it at his request, I would also get the ball rolling.I agree that you would be told to f-off.
zengriz said:...generally speaking...
...wives getting involved...
...never a good idea...
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PlayerRep said:I agree that you would be told to f-off.
Same. Regardless of her credentials, my problem was that it appeared that she was not properly vetted for the position.argh! said:PlayerRep said:HookedonGriz said:Loved the rebuttal. Was that in the Missoulian? Man they need to feel pretty foolish now. Argh sorry pal but you should as well. Shame on Chelsea, an over qualified and passionate volunteer trying turn our university around
Our two posters, who are researcher/profs, both felt that a Rhodes Scholar and medical doctor from Harvard Med School (but no PhD) was not qualified to ask when information was available and what did it take to get it to new consultant that was coming on board. And to follow up and not let the ball drop. Those posters called it nepotism. She was looking for a feather in her cap, and improving her resume. I sure hope there aren't many professor/researchers at UM who think like this.
What a complete put-down to Crady and the Missoulian that recent statement was.
you are making up stuff again, greenie. show me where i said what you insinuate. you can't, because the issue i have been talking about is nepotism, not your diversion into whether she is 'smart' or not.
you are getting dumber by the minute.
grizpsych said:Same. Regardless of her credentials, my problem was that it appeared that she was not properly vetted for the position.argh! said:PlayerRep said:HookedonGriz said:Loved the rebuttal. Was that in the Missoulian? Man they need to feel pretty foolish now. Argh sorry pal but you should as well. Shame on Chelsea, an over qualified and passionate volunteer trying turn our university around
Our two posters, who are researcher/profs, both felt that a Rhodes Scholar and medical doctor from Harvard Med School (but no PhD) was not qualified to ask when information was available and what did it take to get it to new consultant that was coming on board. And to follow up and not let the ball drop. Those posters called it nepotism. She was looking for a feather in her cap, and improving her resume. I sure hope there aren't many professor/researchers at UM who think like this.
What a complete put-down to Crady and the Missoulian that recent statement was.
you are making up stuff again, greenie. show me where i said what you insinuate. you can't, because the issue i have been talking about is nepotism, not your diversion into whether she is 'smart' or not.
you are getting dumber by the minute.