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MrTitleist said:
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
MrTitleist said:
Can someone PLEASE remind me what that "average" offense did in the 2011 Cat/Griz football game? My memory is slipping.. might be the alcohol, might be the ill-effects of AlphaGriz1 pushing down an escalator..


You mean, making the cat defense look absolutely silly, or are you looking for something a little more specific than that?

I always said that you fizz idiots rate your whole season on one game :thumb:

Somewhere a pot is calling their kettle..

Also, one of those teams in that picture went to the FCS semi-finals.. one of those teams has not been to the FCS semifinals for a very long time. Can someone tell me who is who?

I know the Griz were in 2011, 2009, 2008, 2006, 2004, 2001, 1996 and 1995. Bozeman State in that time-span? 0.
 
ya you guys used to be much better than us. many of you must have forgot what wash-griz looked like in the 4th quarter of the game against the cats this year. and two years ago....

i could post some pics, but what would be the fun in that?! :lol:
 
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
MrTitleist said:
Cats2506 said:
Well in the Conf only stats (a fair measure of comparison) um was 4th in total O, 2nd in scoring O and 5th in pass efficency, If you want to call that DOMINATING then keep drinking the kool-aid

Can someone PLEASE remind me what that "average" offense did in the 2011 Cat/Griz football game? My memory is slipping.. might be the alcohol, might be the ill-effects of AlphaGriz1 pushing down an escalator..


You mean, making the cat defense look absolutely silly, or are you looking for something a little more specific than that?

I always said that you outstanding Griz fans rate your whole season on one game :thumb:

Yes we do.


It's called the National Championship.
 
EverettGriz said:
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
MrTitleist said:
Can someone PLEASE remind me what that "average" offense did in the 2011 Cat/Griz football game? My memory is slipping.. might be the alcohol, might be the ill-effects of AlphaGriz1 pushing down an escalator..


You mean, making the cat defense look absolutely silly, or are you looking for something a little more specific than that?

I always said that you outstanding Griz fans rate your whole season on one game :thumb:

Yes we do.


It's called the National Championship.

Cool, you have no argument for my statements that the fizz had an average offense in 2011 and that the defense carried your team that year, so having that QB back on the roster doesn't mean nearly as much as all of you think it does, and the smartest thin your coach could do would be to change the offense. :lol: :lol:

SO you change my post in your reply and change the subject. It the sign of a weak mind. :thumb:
 
Umm, I don't a give a shit one way or the other. The Griz were the FAR superior team. I couldn't care less if their offense averaged 198th in the BSC. They kicked your team's ass up and down the field ALL day long.
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
AZGrizFan said:
Good to see egriz get back to normal so quickly.


Except that in the reading through of this Thread that whenever the acronym "RP" showed up I was reading it as Rob Phenicie instead of Robin Pflugrad and I was developing nightmares all over again!!! Will you guys stop doing that to me...P-L-E-A-S-E.

Ugh, I did the exact same thing. Terrible memories.
 
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
You mean, making the cat defense look absolutely silly, or are you looking for something a little more specific than that?

I always said that you outstanding Griz fans rate your whole season on one game :thumb:

Yes we do.


It's called the National Championship.

Cool, you have no argument for my statements that the fizz had an average offense in 2011 and that the defense carried your team that year, so having that QB back on the roster doesn't mean nearly as much as all of you think it does, and the smartest thin your coach could do would be to change the offense. :lol: :lol:

SO you change my post in your reply and change the subject. It the sign of a weak mind. :thumb:
uofmman1122 said:
Yeah, cuz the Griz offense in August to October was the same as the one in November and December.

At the end of that year, we had one of the top offenses in the country. Better than anyone else in the Big Sky. :coffee:
You went on and on that year about how much better the Cats' Offense and Defense were than the Griz's.

It was pretty damn obvious whose offense was better from November onward. ;)

Our defense was great, but they only scored 16 of our points after October.

Congrats on having a good offense and racking up huge yards and points in August and September. It sure helped you against SHSU the last two years, and NDSU three years ago. :lol: :coffee:
 
havgrizfan said:
This thread was obviously started as an anti-Delaney agenda, and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the current coaching staff. What astonishes me is, people actually post anti-coaching threads on Egriz with the delusion that their words and the words of the responses can somehow make a difference. Since 2004, I'm guessing there has been over 5,000 threads started on Egriz with some form of anti-coach or fire-the-coach theme and not ONE has led to a dismissal yet.

Anti-Delaney agenda?? Absolutely not. Anti-horrible decision-making agenda??? Yes. I have absolutely nothing personal against the guy and, like all true Griz fans, would love to see Delaney succeed beyond our wildest expectations, but absolutely nothing he has done so far (beyond recruiting, which was excellent) has given me the confidence that that is likely to happen. Many of us share this opinion and its certainly not out of spite for Delaney, but rather genuine concern for the current direction of the program. I would love nothing more than for Delaney to prove me wrong. When I started this thread, I justifiably expected to be flamed by people like you that I was trying to stir the pot, which is beyond ridiculous. This information came from someone who has been lauded time and again on this board for their contributions to Griz football and I simply felt the need to share what I'd heard and see what others thought. Therein lies the problem with a confidential source, I guess, so go ahead and flame away.

Also havgriz, where does anyone in this thread actually say that they think eGriz ranting will result in a coaching change? Not that I disagree with your general sentiment there, maybe I just missed it. Last I checked, this is a message board where generally like-minded people go to share their OPINIONS. The problem is, the second someone posts something that goes against popular opinion, they get flamed for having an "agenda". I think we all share one common agenda here and that's WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES. Why is it a big deal to express concern for that "agenda"?
 
Not to be mean, but the last 18 months have been one giant exposé on people's "inside sources" being full of shit. :lol:
 
uofmman1122 said:
Not to be mean, but the last 18 months have been one giant exposé on people's "inside sources" being full of shit. :lol:
:agree: :agree: :agree:
 
IF Delaney made a decision that caused the Griz to lose a widely supported and hugely popular QB that makes this team INFINATELY better who has been thru the horrendous amount of Sh1t that JJ has been thru in the last year and who, according to all accounts, has been supported strongly by his teammates and held onto the idea of playing here again to get him thru said sh1t, then the only thing left is that Delaney should have his arms ripped off and then be beaten soundly with them.


But, under the current regime he'd be given a raise, a contract extension and a pat on the back from Mrs. Williams.


I should point out, I don't believe that JJ is going anywhere and it is Delaney's intent to play to the strengths of the guy that is not only the BEST option to play qb on this team but has earned it thru his play in the past and deserves it.
 
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
Cats2506 said:
EverettGriz said:
You mean, making the cat defense look absolutely silly, or are you looking for something a little more specific than that?

I always said that you outstanding Griz fans rate your whole season on one game :thumb:

Yes we do.


It's called the National Championship.

Cool, you have no argument for my statements that the fizz had an average offense in 2011 and that the defense carried your team that year, so having that QB back on the roster doesn't mean nearly as much as all of you think it does, and the smartest thin your coach could do would be to change the offense. :lol: :lol:

SO you change my post in your reply and change the subject. It the sign of a weak mind. :thumb:


I want you to go back and look at the last 5 D1 games the Griz team from 2011 played, and compare them to the last 5 D1 games that the Cats played that year. So by your definition, the Cat's offense was below average :)

Oh, and McGhee must've been a below average QB too, since McGhee's numbers those last 5 games were not even CLOSE to JJ's.

Oh who am I kidding, you'd rather spew inaccuracies and make stuff up than actually know what you are talking about...so here you go, here are the numbers:

In the last 5 D1 games (including playoffs), the Griz averaged 455 total yards of offense each game (226 passing, 229 rushing), and 39.6 points per game. Sounds a little better than average to me.

Now lets look at the Cats the last 5 D1 games the same year (including playoffs): 395 yds per game total offense (203 passing, 192 rushing), and 29.4 points per game. Ouch.... If the Griz were just "average", then the Cats were way below average... That sucks for you :(

Lets compare QBs in that same period of time:

JJ:
Passing: 88 - 141 (62.4%), 1071yds, 14td, 3int 154.7 Efficiency Rating

Rushing: 39 for 256yds (6.56yds per carry), 2td

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McGhee:
Passing: 80 - 138 (58%), 1015yds, 7td, 7int 126.3 Efficiency Rating

Rushing: 36 - 138yds (3.83yds per carry), 2td

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Ok, I'll take our "Average" offense scoring 39.6 points per game, and a QB with a 154.7 efficiency rating over what you guys had going on the last 5 games of the season in 2011 :)
 
uofmman1122 said:
Not to be mean, but the last 18 months have been one giant exposé on people's "inside sources" being full of shit. :lol:

I feel ya bro, the world, and eGriz in particular, is full of rumor mongers and plain old BS, so I'm not exactly surprised what I said is looked at with some skepticism. In the end though, this is a message board, where people go for information that isn't widely available elsewhere (which inherently makes it vulnerable to lies and innuendo), so what good is this place without people being able to share what they know? Honestly, I hope my source is wrong too, but far be it from me to question someone that has had such an unquestionable impact on Griz FB. All things considered, we are mere days away from having this questioned answered definitively with Spring Ball on the horizon, which in turn should get us all back to what came here for in the first place...GRIZ FOOTBALL!
 
Gotgame, I wouldn't have directed the words "agenda-driven at you", if you had left out the part about JJ being unhappy with the playbook. That's where your post goes south for me and you link that all to Dealney, Gustafson, ect..You tell me how it looks. Maybe for no one else, but it did for me. And if you have to ask why I say that, then you haven't obviously read Egriz for very long. And I may not have responded at all until another poster took it step further saying that Pflu met with JJ's family and has offered a transfer. That's probably the biggest bunch of BS spewed on Egriz in quite some time, and everybody with ANY sense of intelligence, and a working knowledge of these types of matters knows it is. Anyway, that's where I come out on this one. J.J. is fine, he's not transferring to Weber after he participates in Griz spring ball LMAO and he'll be the starting quarterback next fall regardless of what some of you think Engstrom, Pat Williams and Delaney are trying to do! If I'm wrong, I'll be the FIRST to admit it, and I'll admit I was wrong without citing a bunch of secret sources who couldn't ever back me up.
 
PlayerRep said:
maroonandsilver said:
gotgame75 said:
...Is that Delaney has completely scrapped Pflu's read-option offense for a more Hauck-like power-based attack. In addition, supposedly when JJ picked up his playbook this week, he was not happy, to say the least. Do with this information what you will. I am in no position to call out the people that would back me up on this, but suffice to say it I have absolutely zero reason to doubt it. Go ahead and flame me if you want, I really don't care, just trying to bring some legit info to the board. IF this is the case, this would be a blunder of epic proportions by Delaney. You get JJ back only to run an offense that mitigates his greatest strengths??? I seriously hope I am wrong...

P.S. In addition, supposedly Delaney is enamored with Gustafson, maybe this explains the transition...
I have heard the same rumor regarding JJ's unhappiness with the playbook. I also heard from a good source--a friend of Phlu's--that Robin met in Missoula late this week with Jordan and his family about his possible transfer to Weber. Phlu told them he would carry the paperwork for a waiver from the NCAA. This from a close friend of Robin.

Additional rumors: Guffey, Murphy, and Christie Anderson have all been asked to resign/retire. Guff has employed a lawyer claiming age discrimination.

I asked Pflu on Friday afternoon if he had talked to JJ since the trial, and he said he had not.

Wow.

So for everyone questioning this move to completely revamp the offense and how stupid that would be... are you seriously questioning this? You do remember the epic blunders he and his staff pulled off last year, correct? He is a great guy, but he's not a D1 head football coach, period.
 
This just in:

Pat Williams will be named head coach later today. Brad Lebo is the new offensive coordinator. He is searching for a slow-footed drop-down. JJ is transferring to Carroll, so he doesn't have to sit out.

You heard it here first!
 
I have heard since we recently opened up our recruiting pipeline into the Scapegoat Wilderness, the Griz have discovered Big Foot, and he will no doubt start as a true frosh, playing the entire defensive line position, which will free up 3 extra bodies for the secondary..
 
Geddes said:
I have heard since we recently opened up our recruiting pipeline into the Scapegoat Wilderness, the Griz have discovered Big Foot, and he will no doubt start as a true frosh, playing the entire defensive line position, which will free up 3 extra bodies for the secondary..
True story. They were going to "red shirt" him but they couldn't get him to wear one (or any shirt for that matter).
 
Grisly Fan said:
Geddes said:
I have heard since we recently opened up our recruiting pipeline into the Scapegoat Wilderness, the Griz have discovered Big Foot, and he will no doubt start as a true frosh, playing the entire defensive line position, which will free up 3 extra bodies for the secondary..
True story. They were going to "red shirt" him but they couldn't get him to wear one (or any shirt for that matter).

Yes, and along with Big Foot we recruited several alien hybrids. They will be used to communicate telepathically with the entire team ... thus keeping everyone on the same page to hurry up the hurry up offense!
 
UMAlum said:
Grisly Fan said:
Geddes said:
I have heard since we recently opened up our recruiting pipeline into the Scapegoat Wilderness, the Griz have discovered Big Foot, and he will no doubt start as a true frosh, playing the entire defensive line position, which will free up 3 extra bodies for the secondary..
True story. They were going to "red shirt" him but they couldn't get him to wear one (or any shirt for that matter).

Yes, and along with Big Foot we recruited several alien hybrids. They will be used to communicate telepathically with the entire team ... thus keeping everyone on the same page to hurry up the hurry up offense!
No, the telepathy is going to be used to steal the cats plays.
 
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