Will 8-3 be enough for playoffs?

[catsack]

But when has any conference ever had 5 teams in the playoffs? That has not happened since 2011. Did you hear that? Not since 2011. That 10 months ago.

What was the Cats record in 2006 when they made the playoffs? Look it up, and then report back to us, Catsack.

I see why everyone hates you ! We are not the CAA adding those five teams did not make us a power conference just saying. I hope I am wrong .

The Big Sky appears to be stronger than the CAA this year. Only no-nothings and people who say dumb things hate me. I guess you're now in that club.

CAA will still get more teams in the playoffs!

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Definitely in at 8-3. Getting there is the problem.

Walkon, I think you nailed it.
The three losses are directly due to shooting ourselves in the foot. This team has the necessary talent, but playing consistent error free football may be a challenge. :ugeek:

 

[marceagfan5]

You guys are crazy thinking an 8-3 griz team won't make the playoffs, heck, I think your crazy if you think a 7-4 Griz team wont make it in. You have to realize, a good portion of the at large bids are all about $$$. The Griz can put in a bigger bid for a first round home game and no one else can match it, if the Griz are 8-3 or 7-4 they will be in the playoffs.

Since the playoffs expanded, when was the last time a 7 win (D1 wins) Big Sky team didn't make the playoffs? The playoffs expand to 24 teams next year, so you can bet the Big Sky will have 5 teams in on a consistent basis if they reach the magical "7" wins.

I guess looking at it this year, look at MSU/POLY/EWU/NAU's schedules from here on out, barring a collapse, no way any of those teams finish worse than 8-3 (maybe NAU), and if the Griz run the table, they finish 8-3 as well. I just don't see an 8 win Big Sky team being left out...

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree with catsack. If we are the 5th place team at 8-3 we are a bubble team, and if we are an 8-3 team tied with EWU & NAU...we are even more a bubble team. If I recall correctly, there are 20 teams, but 10 of them now are conference champions. That ONLY leaves 10 slots for at large bids. CAA goes 5-6 deep every year, and a 5th place 8-3 CAA team will go over a BSC 5th place team every time. MVC is very deep this year, not to mention the Southern and Southland will get at least one of those at large bids. So even if you take the power conferences...

BSC
MVC
CAA
Southern
Southland (prob only one at large bid)

There are ONLY 10 at large bids. Anyone believing that a 5th place Big Sky team goes is not looking at the big picture. And that means that IF that 5th place Big Sky team is us at 8-3, and we have only one quality win....I doubt very much we go anywhere. Blame it on the schedule. We could be the 3rd best team in conference by end of year, but sitting in 5th place.

When has the CAA had 6 teams in the playoffs?

The 5th CAA team in last year was 7-4.

The CAA has lost teams and is not as strong as they have been in the past.

The CAA has 11 teams this year. They have only 6 teams with winning records. 4 of those teams already have 2 losses. Villanova is one of the two-loss teams. They still have to play Old Dominion, Towson, James Madison and Delaware this year. Do you think they will be 8-3? Richmond is one of the two-loss teams. They still have to play UNH, James Madison and Delaware. Do you think they will be 8-3? UNH is a two-loss team. They still have to play Richmond, Maine, William & Mary and Towson. Do you think they will be 8-3? Delaware is one of the two-loss teams (and have 2 conference losses). They still have to play Old Dominion, Towson, Richmond and Villanova. Do you think they will be 8-3?

 

[PlayerRep]

But when has any conference ever had 5 teams in the playoffs? That has not happened since 2011. Did you hear that? Not since 2011. That 10 months ago.

What was the Cats record in 2006 when they made the playoffs? Look it up, and then report back to us, Catsack.

I see why everyone hates you ! We are not the CAA adding those five teams did not make us a power conference just saying. I hope I am wrong .

The Big Sky appears to be stronger than the CAA this year. Only no-nothings and people who say dumb things hate me. I guess you're now in that club.

CAA will still get more teams in the playoffs!

Nope. Have you looked at the records of the 11 teams in the CAA? Have you looked at their remaining schedules?

 

[ordigger]

You can pretty much put down that two at large teams come from the 4 power conferences this year, which are the CAA, MVC, Big Sky and Southern. Southland will get 1. That leaves ONE autobid for everyone else. So lets give it to the 4th place Big Sky, that still leaves the 5th place team on the outside looking in. Their only chance is to have power conferences falter. And most of them already have 5-6 teams that stand out. Of course this is discounting conferences like Ohio Valley who have two ranked teams so far, so perhaps this is a year one of them get a 2nd team in.

 

[Grizlaw]

I hate to look too many weeks ahead, because a lot can happen during a football season. But if the Griz & the Cats both win out going into the Brawl, then we'll be playing the #1 or #2 team in the country going during the last week of the regular season. If we're otherwise on the bubble, then I have to think a six-game winning streak capped by a win over the #1 or #2 team in the country would be tough for the committee to overlook.

I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's analysis, but you have to remember that the committee isn't bound in any way by polls, and they may view our resume differently than the pollsters do.

 

[argh!]

oh come on now greenie, nobody hates you. we all lub you.

 

[Htowngriz]

But when has any conference ever had 5 teams in the playoffs? That has not happened since 2011. Did you hear that? Not since 2011. That 10 months ago.

What was the Cats record in 2006 when they made the playoffs? Look it up, and then report back to us, Catsack.

I see why everyone hates you ! We are not the CAA adding those five teams did not make us a power conference just saying. I hope I am wrong .

Care to tell us what you consider to be the 'power conferences'?

 

[profisme]

I hate to look too many weeks ahead, because a lot can happen during a football season. But if the Griz & the Cats both win out going into the Brawl, then we'll be playing the #1 or #2 team in the country going during the last week of the regular season. If we're otherwise on the bubble, then I have to think a six-game winning streak capped by a win over the #1 or #2 team in the country would be tough for the committee to overlook.

I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's analysis, but you have to remember that the committee isn't bound in any way by polls, and they may view our resume differently than the pollsters do.

If the Griz win out, they are in at 8-3 without a question. If the Griz lose one more, but beat the Cats (assuming the Cats are still highly ranked at the time), the Griz will probably get in with that quality win. If the Griz win all of their games up until Cat/Griz, but lose that game, it might depend on how close the game is. The Griz would appear to only have 1 quality win and that would be against Sac. State.

Just my $.02.

 

[Htowngriz]

I hate to look too many weeks ahead, because a lot can happen during a football season. But if the Griz & the Cats both win out going into the Brawl, then we'll be playing the #1 or #2 team in the country going during the last week of the regular season. If we're otherwise on the bubble, then I have to think a six-game winning streak capped by a win over the #1 or #2 team in the country would be tough for the committee to overlook.

I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's analysis, but you have to remember that the committee isn't bound in any way by polls, and they may view our resume differently than the pollsters do.

If the Griz win out, they are in at 8-3 without a question. If the Griz lose one more, but beat the Cats (assuming the Cats are still highly ranked at the time), the Griz will probably get in with that quality win. If the Griz win all of their games up until Cat/Griz, but lose that game, it might depend on how close the game is. The Griz would appear to only have 1 quality win and that would be against Sac. State.

Just my $.02.

You can have a quality win against a team you didn't play? Whoda thunk it? :lol:

 

[Griziron]

Sports Network bracket projection has five BSC teams in - MSU, EWU, NAU, CPSLO, and UM.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/fcs/FCS_Bracket.pdf

 

[AZGrizFan]

Sports Network bracket projection has five BSC teams in - MSU, EWU, NAU, CPSLO, and UM.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/fcs/FCS_Bracket.pdf

Interesting they have Cal Poly in a play-in game...they will at WORST be 9-2, and 7-1 in conference play at worst.

 

[bigkid]

Seriously when the Griz beat suu this weekend they have a real good chance of 8-3. This week end will be a tell all. If Montana beats suu AND EWU beats the cats the question will be will the cats be in at 8-3. I have a feeling Sac State will be a real spoiler for them and I know Montana has the tools to win on Nov 17th. We can do this and that would be the mark of a great season. Hang tough Griz fans and watch one of the best seasons unfold. :clap:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Sports Network bracket projection has five BSC teams in - MSU, EWU, NAU, CPSLO, and UM.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/fcs/FCS_Bracket.pdf

Interesting they have Cal Poly in a play-in game...they will at WORST be 9-2, and 7-1 in conference play at worst.

Then again, they still have SHSU in the playoffs and hosting a 2nd round game. If SHSU finishes 8-3 and Montana finishes 8-3, I'm gonna guess Montana can outbid them for that home game.

 

[profisme]

I hate to look too many weeks ahead, because a lot can happen during a football season. But if the Griz & the Cats both win out going into the Brawl, then we'll be playing the #1 or #2 team in the country going during the last week of the regular season. If we're otherwise on the bubble, then I have to think a six-game winning streak capped by a win over the #1 or #2 team in the country would be tough for the committee to overlook.

I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's analysis, but you have to remember that the committee isn't bound in any way by polls, and they may view our resume differently than the pollsters do.

If the Griz win out, they are in at 8-3 without a question. If the Griz lose one more, but beat the Cats (assuming the Cats are still highly ranked at the time), the Griz will probably get in with that quality win. If the Griz win all of their games up until Cat/Griz, but lose that game, it might depend on how close the game is. The Griz would appear to only have 1 quality win and that would be against Sac. State.



Just my $.02.

You can have a quality win against a team you didn't play? Whoda thunk it? :lol:

Oh shit. I thought for whatever reason the Griz played Sac. State this year. I already hate the fact that there are too many teams for each to play each other every year. I guess I rescind my comment because I don't think that SUU qualifies as a quality win for anyone at this point and UND has fallen as well.

 

[DoubleNicks]

So, according to TSN projection...

Big Sky: 5 total (4 at-larges)
UM, EWU, NAU, MSU, and Cal Poly

Big South: 1 (0)
Stony Brook

CAA: 3 (2)
New Hampshire, Old Dominion, and James Madison

MEAC: 1 (0)
Bethune-Cookman

MVFC: 2 (1)
North Dakota State and Youngstown State

Northeast: 1 (0)
Albany

OVC: 2 (1)
Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee State

Patriot: 1 (0)
Lehigh

SoCon: 3 (2)
Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Wofford

Southland: 1 (0)
Sam Houston State

The Ivy League and SWAC don't participate in the playoffs and apparently the Pioneer League doesn't get an auto-bid, yet. So, it is definitely possible to get 5 BSC teams in but that means that we need the one team leagues like the Southland with Sam Houston State to not have any upsets. Because then the Southland might still send SHSU along with their auto-bid.

I'm kinda surprised that the CAA and Missouri Valley would only send 5 total teams between them, but then again, they don't have the BSC scheduling "problems" so they eventually play and beat up on each other.

 

[Htowngriz]

I hate to look too many weeks ahead, because a lot can happen during a football season. But if the Griz & the Cats both win out going into the Brawl, then we'll be playing the #1 or #2 team in the country going during the last week of the regular season. If we're otherwise on the bubble, then I have to think a six-game winning streak capped by a win over the #1 or #2 team in the country would be tough for the committee to overlook.

I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's analysis, but you have to remember that the committee isn't bound in any way by polls, and they may view our resume differently than the pollsters do.

If the Griz win out, they are in at 8-3 without a question. If the Griz lose one more, but beat the Cats (assuming the Cats are still highly ranked at the time), the Griz will probably get in with that quality win. If the Griz win all of their games up until Cat/Griz, but lose that game, it might depend on how close the game is. The Griz would appear to only have 1 quality win and that would be against Sac. State.



Just my $.02.

You can have a quality win against a team you didn't play? Whoda thunk it? :lol:

Oh shit. I thought for whatever reason the Griz played Sac. State this year. I already hate the fact that there are too many teams for each to play each other every year. I guess I rescind my comment because I don't think that SUU qualifies as a quality win for anyone at this point and UND has fallen as well.

I agree, and it makes the close losses to App and Eastern all the more painful. :x

 

[ordigger]

So, according to TSN projection...

Big Sky: 5 total (4 at-larges)
UM, EWU, NAU, MSU, and Cal Poly

Big South: 1 (0)
Stony Brook

CAA: 3 (2)
New Hampshire, Old Dominion, and James Madison

MEAC: 1 (0)
Bethune-Cookman

MVFC: 2 (1)
North Dakota State and Youngstown State

Northeast: 1 (0)
Albany

OVC: 2 (1)
Eastern Kentucky and Tennessee State

Patriot: 1 (0)
Lehigh

SoCon: 3 (2)
Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Wofford

Southland: 1 (0)
Sam Houston State

The Ivy League and SWAC don't participate in the playoffs and apparently the Pioneer League doesn't get an auto-bid, yet. So, it is definitely possible to get 5 BSC teams in but that means that we need the one team leagues like the Southland with Sam Houston State to not have any upsets. Because then the Southland might still send SHSU along with their auto-bid.

I'm kinda surprised that the CAA and Missouri Valley would only send 5 total teams between them, but then again, they don't have the BSC scheduling "problems" so they eventually play and beat up on each other.

Central Arkansas already beat Sam Houston State. I think both still have to face a 4-1 McNeese State team

 

[Big G]

Deja vu again