GoldStandardGriz
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the playoff field expand to 20 teams this year? If so, 7-4 gets us in. If not, 8-3 & we're in for sure. We still carry clout, even in a "down" year.
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Will 8-3 be enough for playoffs?
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catsack said:
If they would have been all Div I victories we would have been in. If I remember correctly in 2010 there were a lot of teams on the bubble with 7 wins. Another thing to consider, i don't believe that there has been a conference with 13 members in it prior to the BSC. There is only 1 Western conference now. That may open it up for 4 teams to be in the playoffs. I think 7 wins puts us in competition for the playoffs. Hopefully we won't have to find out!
8-3 = Lead Pipe Cinch.
7-4 = 75/25 chance, with 75% in.
7-4 = 75/25 chance, with 75% in.
catsack said:
It wasn't a 13 team conference last year (and the new teams weren't playing mainly Big Sky teams). Look at the records of the top 6 teams last year, and their non-conference records and who they played, and their rankings--not the very significant differences--and then report back to us. Until then, please stop with your stupid comments.
The facts are five teams are not going to make the playoffs! The facts are two teams from the sky have made it the last two years. Now your saying we add five teams to the conference , and we are going to get 5-6 teams in get real. As much as I hate to say it the griz @ 8-3 are a bubble team . Adding 5 teams from a conf that hasn't gotten a playoff bid in two years does not make the big sky the CAA of the west !PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
Hey dumbie, I'm not saying anything other than pointing out your dumb statements and gross mistakes. Do some homework. 5 teams from one conference, with fewer teams than the Big Sky, were in the playoffs last year. The fact is, the Big Sky, so far, looks very strong and has multiple good teams. If they keep playing well and winning, without beating each other up too much, there will be a bunch of Big Sky teams in the playoffs. Looking backwards, when the conference wasn't as strong and didn't have as many team, is just plain dumb.
George Ferguson
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i dont think 7-4 gets in this year, but 8-3 is LOCK and the griz will be in over any other 8-3 team in the league regardless of the TSN poll. call it a griz bias with the NCAA, i could care less if it's true but catssack you couldn't be MORE wrong about an 8-3 griz team and your speaking with your cat bias and not your brain on this one. NO 8-3 Griz team has EVER been left out of the FCS playoffs since 1988 and that was BEFORE the expanded field. AND on top of that, an 8-3 Griz team that reeled off six straight wins, also means they beat the Cats, who will probably still be ranked No. 2 when they come to Wash-Griz, will ALSO mean a home game without question.
Catsack, you would be more credible if you just said "I hate the Griz and at 8-3 I don't think they deserve to be in." Because that's really what you're saying anyway.
NOW, do the Griz win five more games and end up 8-3? It's a long shot in my opinion, but I damn sure hope they do!
Catsack, you would be more credible if you just said "I hate the Griz and at 8-3 I don't think they deserve to be in." Because that's really what you're saying anyway.
NOW, do the Griz win five more games and end up 8-3? It's a long shot in my opinion, but I damn sure hope they do!
George Ferguson
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Sorry for calling you a Cat fan. Not sorry for pointing out that youy're wrong. You just are. Hell, even TSN, which HATES Montana, is projecting the Griz in with a home game as of this week!
I agree with catsack. If we are the 5th place team at 8-3 we are a bubble team, and if we are an 8-3 team tied with EWU & NAU...we are even more a bubble team. If I recall correctly, there are 20 teams, but 10 of them now are conference champions. That ONLY leaves 10 slots for at large bids. CAA goes 5-6 deep every year, and a 5th place 8-3 CAA team will go over a BSC 5th place team every time. MVC is very deep this year, not to mention the Southern and Southland will get at least one of those at large bids. So even if you take the power conferences...
BSC
MVC
CAA
Southern
Southland (prob only one at large bid)
There are ONLY 10 at large bids. Anyone believing that a 5th place Big Sky team goes is not looking at the big picture. And that means that IF that 5th place Big Sky team is us at 8-3, and we have only one quality win....I doubt very much we go anywhere. Blame it on the schedule. We could be the 3rd best team in conference by end of year, but sitting in 5th place.
BSC
MVC
CAA
Southern
Southland (prob only one at large bid)
There are ONLY 10 at large bids. Anyone believing that a 5th place Big Sky team goes is not looking at the big picture. And that means that IF that 5th place Big Sky team is us at 8-3, and we have only one quality win....I doubt very much we go anywhere. Blame it on the schedule. We could be the 3rd best team in conference by end of year, but sitting in 5th place.
DoubleNicks
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Besides breaking "tie-breakers" with SOS, conference affiliation is not a basis considered by the playoff selection committee. There's no rule stating a limit to the amount of at-larges from a single conference (other than the total limit of at-larges available). Other than determining auto-bids, the playoff committee doesn't care about conference standings, either. If a team is lower in the conference standings but has a better or similar overall record and SOS then they will be in before the other higher-conference-ranking team.
I believe 8-3 would definitely get a team in from a respected conference. 7-4 might also be good enough, it just depends on what happens around the nation.
(Sidenote: who was responsible for the SHSU schedule? Sam Houston State scheduling Incarnate Word, Baylor and Texas A&M all in the same year might just keep the best team from the Southland out of the playoffs. Assuming they drop their last game to Texas A&M, they have 5 conference games just to pick up 5 wins and reach the 7 DI wins mark. That's possible and they could also win the conference auto-bid, but it won't be easy as they still have McNeese State and Northwestern State to play and Central Arkansas holds the auto-bid tie-breaker if both win out.)
I believe 8-3 would definitely get a team in from a respected conference. 7-4 might also be good enough, it just depends on what happens around the nation.
(Sidenote: who was responsible for the SHSU schedule? Sam Houston State scheduling Incarnate Word, Baylor and Texas A&M all in the same year might just keep the best team from the Southland out of the playoffs. Assuming they drop their last game to Texas A&M, they have 5 conference games just to pick up 5 wins and reach the 7 DI wins mark. That's possible and they could also win the conference auto-bid, but it won't be easy as they still have McNeese State and Northwestern State to play and Central Arkansas holds the auto-bid tie-breaker if both win out.)