Why so difficult

[CDAGRIZ]

The Cats have 2 good starting qb's. The Griz have 1. How did the Cats do last year after they lost their starting qb against NDSU?

How many times have the Cats beaten the Griz in the past 2 seasons?

It is not in the least readily apparent that Hauck's ceiling is 9-2. What you are saying is beyond dumb.

Are you fu-ckin high? Covid, cunt. You've played us once in three years. In 2019 you got pussy punted. I look forward too your return to Montana State. I don't for a second, think Vigen has forgot Bob's bullshit last year. You're in for an ass beating.

Oh, dear! I certainly hope that Sixx doesn’t poison the Griz’s Gatorade with PEDs before watching Antiques Roadshow re-runs. Both are on high alert.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Ask the fan bases of many BSC teams if they would trade coaching staffs right now...what do you think the responses would be?

Since the main critique you two make is that Hauck has not won any NCs, ask the fan bases of any of these BSC teams how many NCs their staffs have won.

I'm wondering where all this conviction to chase BH (103-29, 7 trips to the NC game at Montana) was prior to the last 3 weeks. 3 f....g weeks and 3 losses, two on the road, by a total of 17 points, one in OT. The definition of fickle. Your assumption that Eck and Vigen are instantly superior to Hauck is like trying to draw a correlation line from one data point. Unlike Hauck, neither has a significant body of work. But in your insight, you're able to project them to be building the next NDSUs. Please share how you developed such insight and particularly indicate the slopes of your correlation lines.

I don't do math.

Do you not agree Jay Hill, kitty coach, and others are doing well in the conference? Their fan bases are not sweating getting into the playoffs. They seem to recruit the region well.

And, I have been convicted on shortcomings for some time. No one has been more critical of some of the current coaches than me. I think Germer is among the worst o-line coaches in the FCS, and have been saying it for years.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Those facilities and tradition and fan base are BECAUSE of Haslam, Bobby Hauck and DeCuire

No. Just. No.

The facilities, traditions, and fanatical fan base came well before those 3...

What we have now was sparked in the late 80s. Fact.

 

[Fahque]

Ask the fan bases of many BSC teams if they would trade coaching staffs right now...what do you think the responses would be?

Since the main critique you two make is that Hauck has not won any NCs, ask the fan bases of any of these BSC teams how many NCs their staffs have won.

I'm wondering where all this conviction to chase BH (103-29, 7 trips to the NC game at Montana) was prior to the last 3 weeks. 3 f....g weeks and 3 losses, two on the road, by a total of 17 points, one in OT. The definition of fickle. Your assumption that Eck and Vigen are instantly superior to Hauck is like trying to draw a correlation line from one data point. Unlike Hauck, neither has a significant body of work. But in your insight, you're able to project them to be building the next NDSUs. Please share how you developed such insight and particularly indicate the slopes of your correlation lines.

Where did you come up with 7 trips to the NC game? In his first stint, we only went to 3 NC games and won 0 (2004, 2008, & 2009)

 

[ilovethecats]

Here’s one: The Bobcats are 7-1 this year (with multiple victories by their backup QB, BTW), and 25-3 in their last 28 FCS games including a trip to the NC game. The Griz are 0-3 in their last THREE. So we’ve lost as many FCS games in October as the bobcats have in three years. With a coach (in year FIVE, mind you) that seems incapable of or unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

It’s just become readily apparent that unless something demonstrably changes, Bobby’s ceiling appears to be 9-2, quarterfinals at best, and we all better get right with that.

The Cats have 2 good starting qb's. The Griz have 1. How did the Cats do last year after they lost their starting qb against NDSU?

How many times have the Cats beaten the Griz in the past 2 seasons?

It is not in the least readily apparent that Hauck's ceiling is 9-2. What you are saying is beyond dumb.

I can get on board with this thinking. I’ll maintain the Cats would have won that game had we not lost our starting quarterback. It’s the only explanation.

 

[Bear Spray]

The Cats have 2 good starting qb's. The Griz have 1. How did the Cats do last year after they lost their starting qb against NDSU?

How many times have the Cats beaten the Griz in the past 2 seasons?

It is not in the least readily apparent that Hauck's ceiling is 9-2. What you are saying is beyond dumb.

I can get on board with this thinking. I’ll maintain the Cats would have won that game had we not lost our starting quarterback. It’s the only explanation.

It was an intentional cheap shot, orchestrated by the ndsu coaching staff and the governor of nd. A real conspiracy to get Tommy off the field.

 

[kemajic]

Since the main critique you two make is that Hauck has not won any NCs, ask the fan bases of any of these BSC teams how many NCs their staffs have won.

I'm wondering where all this conviction to chase BH (103-29, 7 trips to the NC game at Montana) was prior to the last 3 weeks. 3 f....g weeks and 3 losses, two on the road, by a total of 17 points, one in OT. The definition of fickle. Your assumption that Eck and Vigen are instantly superior to Hauck is like trying to draw a correlation line from one data point. Unlike Hauck, neither has a significant body of work. But in your insight, you're able to project them to be building the next NDSUs. Please share how you developed such insight and particularly indicate the slopes of your correlation lines.

Where did you come up with 7 trips to the NC game? In his first stint, we only went to 3 NC games and won 0 (2004, 2008, & 2009)

My bad. Montana has been to the FCS NC 7 times, not Hauck. 3 for him. Crosswired thoughts.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The Cats have 2 good starting qb's. The Griz have 1. How did the Cats do last year after they lost their starting qb against NDSU?

How many times have the Cats beaten the Griz in the past 2 seasons?

It is not in the least readily apparent that Hauck's ceiling is 9-2. What you are saying is beyond dumb.

I can get on board with this thinking. I’ll maintain the Cats would have won that game had we not lost our starting quarterback. It’s the only explanation.

We both know that isn’t true. There would be banners hanging and a “2021” on the sideline at RHS by now if Sixx & The Gang believed that.

 

[Bok_Choi]

Since the main critique you two make is that Hauck has not won any NCs, ask the fan bases of any of these BSC teams how many NCs their staffs have won.

I'm wondering where all this conviction to chase BH (103-29, 7 trips to the NC game at Montana) was prior to the last 3 weeks. 3 f....g weeks and 3 losses, two on the road, by a total of 17 points, one in OT. The definition of fickle. Your assumption that Eck and Vigen are instantly superior to Hauck is like trying to draw a correlation line from one data point. Unlike Hauck, neither has a significant body of work. But in your insight, you're able to project them to be building the next NDSUs. Please share how you developed such insight and particularly indicate the slopes of your correlation lines.

Here’s one: The Bobcats are 7-1 this year (with multiple victories by their backup QB, BTW), and 25-3 in their last 28 FCS games including a trip to the NC game. The Griz are 0-3 in their last THREE. So we’ve lost as many FCS games in October as the bobcats have in three years. With a coach (in year FIVE, mind you) that seems incapable of or unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

It’s just become readily apparent that unless something demonstrably changes, Bobby’s ceiling appears to be 9-2, quarterfinals at best, and we all better get right with that.

Bobby gonna Bobby. While the kids, coaches and football itself has changed immensely since his first tour, even though he’s recognized it, he continues to drag his feet.

And you couldn’t be more right. If you aren’t willing to accept that and take what comes with it, you’re going to be consistently disappointed.

 

[ilovethecats]

I can get on board with this thinking. I’ll maintain the Cats would have won that game had we not lost our starting quarterback. It’s the only explanation.

We both know that isn’t true. There would be banners hanging and a “2021” on the sideline at RHS by now if Sixx & The Gang believed that.

I was skeptical too. But it seems like regardless of opponent, you lose your starting qb and it's a guarantee you would have won the game had you had him. I'm embarrassed I didn't realize this sooner.

I'll email the powers that be about that banner. Pretty exciting news! arty:

 

[garizzalies]

And, I have been convicted on shortcomings for some time.

 

[Griz til I die]

Here's an unpopular opinion that I stand by. I could care less about winning the conference championship. I'd rather win the natty. It's kind of like winning the regular season title in Basketball, it means absolutely nothing if you can't win the conference tournament and make the NCAA tournament.

That said, winning the conference championship is important in the sense that it sets you up with a high seed and the potential to get multiple home playoff games, making your life much easier. However, it's not impossible to make it to Frisco going on the road. Last year South Dakota State played in the first round at home against UC Davis, then played at @ #4 Sacramento State and won, @ #5 Villanova and won, and then @ #8 msu before they just ran out of gas. I don't foresee a scenario where the Griz will have to fly back and forth across the country like SDSU as I think most of the seeds will be in the West/midwest.

Point being, all you have to do is make the playoffs and then anything can happen. This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy, and there has never been a year where they can make it to Frisco by going on the road more then this year. If there were ever a year you can win in the Fargo dome, this is the year. Justin Ford said it best when he said "all we have to do is get into the playoffs, and then anything can happen." Keep the faith everyone.

 

[ilovethecats]

Here's an unpopular opinion that I stand by. I could care less about winning the conference championship. I'd rather win the natty. It's kind of like winning the regular season title in Basketball, it means absolutely nothing if you can't win the conference tournament and make the NCAA tournament.

That said, winning the conference championship is important in the sense that it sets you up with a high seed and the potential to get multiple home playoff games, making your life much easier. However, it's not impossible to make it to Frisco going on the road. Last year South Dakota State played in the first round at home against UC Davis, then played at @ #4 Sacramento State and won, @ #5 Villanova and won, and then @ #8 msu before they just ran out of gas. I don't foresee a scenario where the Griz will have to fly back and forth across the country like SDSU as I think most of the seeds will be in the West/midwest.

Point being, all you have to do is make the playoffs and then anything can happen. This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy, and there has never been a year where they can make it to Frisco by going on the road more then this year. If there were ever a year you can win in the Fargo dome, this is the year. Justin Ford said it best when he said "all we have to do is get into the playoffs, and then anything can happen." Keep the faith everyone.

If it's an unpopular opinion to win the National Championship instead of a conference championship then people are even dumber than I thought. :lol:

 

[Butte5518]

This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy,

F@#K i get tired of hearing this from the Griz fan... 2 years ago you said it, last year you were crying about it, and this year has been non-stop whining about injuries. Do you not think EVERY OTHER team also has their own list of injuries? Does BH have this team so ill-prepared to not be able to overcome an injury? Is there no depth at all to the mighty Griz program at all?...

Bottom line is the Griz dont really have a very good team this year, BH is getting his A$$ handed to him on a weekly basis, and the diehard Griz fan constantly cries foul.... Get pissed, demand change if you think change is needed, but for the love of god.... quit crying about injuries!!

 

[goatcreekgriz]

It’s not difficult to explain and Kem concisely did so.

It’s still just a game. Sometimes shit goes sideways.

The Griz need to beat Cal Poly. Otherwise, I’ll make other plans for Saturdays after Thanksgiving and start looking forward to next year. Not giving up my season tickets, ever.

 

[Griz til I die]

Here's an unpopular opinion that I stand by. I could care less about winning the conference championship. I'd rather win the natty. It's kind of like winning the regular season title in Basketball, it means absolutely nothing if you can't win the conference tournament and make the NCAA tournament.

That said, winning the conference championship is important in the sense that it sets you up with a high seed and the potential to get multiple home playoff games, making your life much easier. However, it's not impossible to make it to Frisco going on the road. Last year South Dakota State played in the first round at home against UC Davis, then played at @ #4 Sacramento State and won, @ #5 Villanova and won, and then @ #8 msu before they just ran out of gas. I don't foresee a scenario where the Griz will have to fly back and forth across the country like SDSU as I think most of the seeds will be in the West/midwest.

Point being, all you have to do is make the playoffs and then anything can happen. This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy, and there has never been a year where they can make it to Frisco by going on the road more then this year. If there were ever a year you can win in the Fargo dome, this is the year. Justin Ford said it best when he said "all we have to do is get into the playoffs, and then anything can happen." Keep the faith everyone.

If it's an unpopular opinion to win the National Championship instead of a conference championship then people are even dumber than I thought. :lol:

I never said that. I think everybody would agree with that. What I meant was that I think most people would like to win both the conference and the natty. I could give 2 shits about winning the Big Sky, that's not in the least bit important to me. All that matters to me is the natty. Perfect example would be in College Basketball, Duke and UNC weren't really all that upset about not winning the ACC, they just care about winning the natty. If you're to win the the conference title, then great that's kind of cool, but if you win the conference and fail to win the natty, I don't think anyone is really going to care.

 

[SoldierGriz]

And, I have been convicted on shortcomings for some time.

:lol:

 

[Griz til I die]

This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy,

F@#K i get tired of hearing this from the Griz fan... 2 years ago you said it, last year you were crying about it, and this year has been non-stop whining about injuries. Do you not think EVERY OTHER team also has their own list of injuries? Does BH have this team so ill-prepared to not be able to overcome an injury? Is there no depth at all to the mighty Griz program at all?...

Bottom line is the Griz dont really have a very good team this year, BH is getting his A$$ handed to him on a weekly basis, and the diehard Griz fan constantly cries foul.... Get pissed, demand change if you think change is needed, but for the love of god.... quit crying about injuries!!

Dude you have 170 posts, and I can see why now. You're a complete idiot if you don't think we have a very good team this year. I'll admit, we don't have anywhere near the injuries we had last year, and I wish we had better depth at the QB spot, but we don't. Guess what? I don't think change needs to be made at head coach, but if you don't think this team with a healthy Lucas Johnson is capable of going toe o toe with anyone, then I'm not sure what you've been watching this year.

It's funny how you bring up other teams injuries. While that may be true, did any of those teams play consecutive road games at #2 Sac and #5 Weber? I believe all these other teams have had most of their injuries against weaker opponents. Do the cats win at Sac and Weber with Tommy out? Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. Instead, they were missing Tommy for consecutive home games against an average Davis team and a very bad ISU team.

Not a fair comparison my friend.

 

[mthoopsfan]

This Griz team is capable of going toe to toe with anyone when were healthy,

F@#K i get tired of hearing this from the Griz fan... 2 years ago you said it, last year you were crying about it, and this year has been non-stop whining about injuries. Do you not think EVERY OTHER team also has their own list of injuries? Does BH have this team so ill-prepared to not be able to overcome an injury? Is there no depth at all to the mighty Griz program at all?...

Bottom line is the Griz dont really have a very good team this year, BH is getting his A$$ handed to him on a weekly basis, and the diehard Griz fan constantly cries foul.... Get pissed, demand change if you think change is needed, but for the love of god.... quit crying about injuries!!

Name any team that has lost its starting and very good qb in a top 5 game, and still won the game. Okay, now do this analysis for any team that also doesn't have a good backup. The Cats are lucky this year with 2 good qb's. Last year, MSU had a decent backup, but not as good as Mellott. Are you saying that losing Mellott against NDSU didn't impact the MSU offense and the game?

In the case of the Griz, the way they lost the QB, in a dirty late hit that was blatant targeting also keeps this issue in the mind of the Griz.

The Griz have nice depth and better than the Cats. The Cats have better depth at QB. QB is obviously a very important position.

What I get so tired of hearing/seeing is BS crap from trolls like you.

Let's bet $250, right now, on the Griz/Cat game, assuming both teams have their good qb (2 in the case of the Cats). Put up or shut.

I get so tired of posters being unwilling or unable to back up their BS. Are you afraid of the result, or have you been so unsuccessful in life that you don't have $250?

 

[ilovethecats]

If it's an unpopular opinion to win the National Championship instead of a conference championship then people are even dumber than I thought. :lol:

I never said that. I think everybody would agree with that. What I meant was that I think most people would like to win both the conference and the natty. I could give 2 shits about winning the Big Sky, that's not in the least bit important to me. All that matters to me is the natty. Perfect example would be in College Basketball, Duke and UNC weren't really all that upset about not winning the ACC, they just care about winning the natty. If you're to win the the conference title, then great that's kind of cool, but if you win the conference and fail to win the natty, I don't think anyone is really going to care.

I guess I misunderstood then. When I read this:

Here's an unpopular opinion that I stand by. I could care less about winning the conference championship. I'd rather win the natty.

I took that to mean you had an unpopular opinion. That opinion was that you could care less about winning the conference championship. Instead of that, your opinion was that you'd rather win the natty.

I completely agree and just thought that opinion shouldn't be all that unpopular. Must of missed what you were trying to say. :?