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Evizzerate said:
Hannah is an educated liar. She knows very well the difference between sexual assault and rape.
How can you claim that to a women victim that there is no distinction between an act of "inappropriate touching" (sexual assault) or "vaginal rape" (rape). You are flame throwing, worse than Florio.
And I agree with her that we should shut up until the facts are known.

I think you are being conveniently obtuse, of course under both the legal definition and the reality of the act there is a difference. However, if you are a victim of either, try to tell the sexual assault victim that her sense of revulsion, hurt, despair and shame is any less real or overwhelming. That is the true harm of sexually based crimes.

It's a bit laughable because I'm not sure exactly what you feel I was lying about ... I tried to explain why I used the term "rape" in the suggestion of the google search not as a claim that this is what the allegation is in this particular instance or that they were one and the same. Perhaps you think that I am lying regarding that there is little difference in how victims perceive the acts. If so, I would suggest that, rather than call me out, you volunteer at a crisis center. It might give you a different perspective on things.

As for the comment from Snap about still being pissed about losing, do they teach reading comprehension in Montana? The whole point of my posts is that you can't judge the guilt or innocence of the player or the veracity of the girlfriend based on whether you are a UM fan or a fan of their rival. What I think about this issue would be the same regardless of the record of "my" team or the allegiance you have toward your team.
 
grizhunter said:
I did not realize that any penetration of ANY orifice by ANY object is considered rape in Montana(among other definitions). I did not know this until I jury member in a lengthy trial all about this crap.

Wow! So everytime I doled out a wet willy I was actually raping someone.

Who knew!
 
BearIt said:
grizhunter said:
I did not realize that any penetration of ANY orifice by ANY object is considered rape in Montana(among other definitions). I did not know this until I jury member in a lengthy trial all about this crap.

Wow! So everytime I doled out a wet willy I was actually raping someone.

Who knew!

Nor did you know that each time you stuck your thumb up your own butt you were raping yourself... :oops: :oops: :oops:
 
Man you grizzly fans have to be the most oblivious and bias fan base in the world. Wow, I have no fucking clue if this allication is true or not, but I do know one thing the girl who made the claim is already guilty of false accusations in most posters' eyes on this thread. I hope this girl's dad reads this thread and sees how much football means to you internet phenoms, and how little her life means to you guys. It might be false it might be true, but you guys are the ones who want all the facts but yet everybody on here thinks it is a false accusation by a crazy ex. Pretty disgraceful really.

I think Hammer, Evergriz, Umista, and PlayerRep should lead the defense of false accusations, pretty sure you guys get a W on the case if they do that. Hell read the grizette cat-griz article today and you will find out how humanity will stop if this is true. What a joke.
 
MooUBaby signs in with Atlcat and 2506. Disgraceful?....................Disgraceful?

We will soon see the light, yeah all us "dumb" Griz fans? Waiting for the evidence to show guilt or non guilt!

I must say until the evidence is shown one way or the other we all can sing and dance along together, happy as pigs, incorruptible. A kiss for everyone!

Reading the guilty as charged (TRO) is in itself weak. Most coming from jealous cat-peeing posters and other teams' fans blasting the Griz. What have outside posters added to the wait and see crowd?

Checked in with Alpha, he is deeply involved in the investigation. Growler is on his way from Arizona to begin his own investigation. Soon the real facts will come out, stay tuned to egriz as this is one place the truth will be posted asap. Incertitude!

If I, as a fan of the Griz did not stick up for my players I would shoot myself. Having said that, if it turns out my Griz players are in fact guilty I want them thrown from the school and punished. All good fans want a clean program. I will be first in line to kick-bitch and scream if we allow dirty players.

Further, I believe Florio can't write an article about the Griz or UM without slanting the story against both. Perhaps an ex Griz football player jilted her or she is so ugly she was not allowed to attend Griz sporting events, in any event she writes extreme ugly articles!
 
Umista said:
... if it turns out my Griz players are in fact guilty I want them thrown from the school and punished. All good fans want a clean program.

Sometimes I wonder what the "2506" of "Cats2506" is supposed to be in recognition of. Sometimes he comes across as a member of the "Attack Brigade 2506." The same one's that conducted "The Bay of Pigs" fiasco. Around that time the CIA, not knowing if it was the Director of the CIA, Allen W. Dulles, or not, that proposed the eradication of some 3,000 American citizens unto JFK in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. Also that a couple of those participants of the "2506," a Virgilio Gonzales and a Eugenio R. Martinez, were also involved in the break-in of the Watergate Building as well. Interesting coincidence on attitudinal presentations, there, "Cats2506," isn't it?
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
Umista said:
... if it turns out my Griz players are in fact guilty I want them thrown from the school and punished. All good fans want a clean program.

Sometimes I wonder what the "2506" of "Cats2506" is supposed to be in recognition of. Sometimes he comes across as a member of the "Attack Brigade 2506." The same one's that conducted "The Bay of Pigs" fiasco. Around that time the CIA, not knowing if it was the Director of the CIA, Allen W. Dulles, or not, that proposed the eradication of some 3,000 American citizens unto JFK in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. Also that a couple of those participants of the "2506," a Virgilio Gonzales and a Eugenio R. Martinez, were also involved in the break-in of the Watergate Building as well. Interesting coincidence on attitudinal presentations, there, "Cats2506," isn't it?

:lol: :lol: :thumb:

Its bigger than you can imagine. ;)
 
All you need to know about cats2506 is...he claims, on a cold and blustery day, with a little over 2,000 fans in the seats of Reno H. Sales Stadium, sometime in the 1970's, he and he alone invented the "eat shit griz, go cats go chant". And that should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know!
 
havgrizfan said:
All you need to know about cats2506 is...he claims, on a cold and blustery day, with a little over 2,000 fans in the seats of Reno H. Sales Stadium, sometime in the 1970's, he and he alone invented the "eat shit griz, go cats go chant". And that should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know!
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MooUBaby said:
Man you grizzly fans have to be the most oblivious and bias fan base in the world. Wow, I have no f***[*] clue if this allication is true or not, but I do know one thing the girl who made the claim is already guilty of false accusations in most posters' eyes on this thread. I hope this girl's dad reads this thread and sees how much football means to you internet phenoms, and how little her life means to you guys. It might be false it might be true, but you guys are the ones who want all the facts but yet everybody on here thinks it is a false accusation by a crazy ex. Pretty disgraceful really.

I think Hammer, Evergriz, Umista, and PlayerRep should lead the defense of false accusations, pretty sure you guys get a W on the case if they do that. Hell read the grizette cat-griz article today and you will find out how humanity will stop if this is true. What a joke.


1. You obviously write and spell at the same level at which you read, a level which is typical of msu grads (which is to say, shitty).

2. I don't really see too many people on here defending the actions of the player. What I see is a lot of people saying no one should jump to conclusions since there is no evidence to suggest that anything other than a dispute between 19 year olds (gee, those don't happen every day.... :roll: ) occurred.

3. Please point to ONE comment where I've supported JJ on this, other than to say that know one knows the story.

4. You're the only one who is biased here, dumbass. You're the only one making a determination without any facts. But then cat fans don't like to think of themselves as losers even in the clear absence of any wins, so I guess in the grand scheme of things it's completely logical.
 
MooUBaby said:
Man you grizzly fans have to be the most oblivious and bias fan base in the world. Wow, I have no f***[*] clue if this allication is true or not, but I do know one thing the girl who made the claim is already guilty of false accusations in most posters' eyes on this thread. I hope this girl's dad reads this thread and sees how much football means to you internet phenoms, and how little her life means to you guys. It might be false it might be true, but you guys are the ones who want all the facts but yet everybody on here thinks it is a false accusation by a crazy ex. Pretty disgraceful really.

I think Hammer, Evergriz, Umista, and PlayerRep should lead the defense of false accusations, pretty sure you guys get a W on the case if they do that. Hell read the grizette cat-griz article today and you will find out how humanity will stop if this is true. What a joke.


Listen up jackass as of this morning at least NO ONE on this board knows if any accusations are true. No crime has been reported, no evidence of ANY KIND given, its a temporary order based on nothing more than a request.

It could be false. It could be true. Both have equal standing right now until this matter is cleared up in court a bit. So yes she could be using this as a means of revenge, or JJ could be the scum of the earth rapist as accused.

I could care less if her dad reads this. Its not reasonable for anyone to assume everyone will believe their daughter with no evidence on an allegation. But she will have her chance today in court. Then we will all see what there is to see. I have a 17 year old daughter and would have the same expecations of others even if I believed something based only on her word.
 
Tokyogriz said:
Listen up jackass as of this morning at least NO ONE on this board knows if any accusations are true. No crime has been reported, no evidence of ANY KIND given, its a temporary order based on nothing more than a request.

Charges were filed Friday afternoon and only confirmed by Missoula PD today.

Sex assault allegation against Grizzly quarterback filed with police

At least this young woman had the good sense to go to the police, instead of falling back on the Student Conduct Code and thus giving the administration a chance to bury it.
 
I don't see anything in that article suggesting that charges were filed. It appears at this time that only a police report was made by the alleged victim. While that is by no means good and likely doesn't bode well, I think it's still a little premature to state that "charges were filed".
 
True, False, Right, Wrong, He said, She said...................Phrase it how you want. I am just so so tired of my university getting publicity like this. Athletes or non athletes. It just makes me sick.
 
EverettGriz said:
I don't see anything in that article suggesting that charges were filed. It appears at this time that only a police report was made by the alleged victim. While that is by no means good and likely doesn't bode well, I think it's still a little premature to state that "charges were filed".

Simply a tragedy regardless...

How do you think the university / football program proceed given this information?
 
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