Who could the griz even get as a new coach?

[Dawg3]

Jason McEndoo

 

[Grizzlies1982]

That's a huge question at hand....we didn't have mind blowing candidates the last search and I wouldn't expect any mind blowing, proven coaches this go round either. It's probably wishful thinking to think any FBS coordinators would drop their 500k salaries for a 200k salary unless they desperate want to be a head coach. So then what candidates are left? I think many just assume coaches are chomping at the bit to coach here and I don't think that's the case. I'm not thrilled with the results of this staff, but I also see the potential in their youth and what they are HOPING to build. Not sure if they will get there. Also not sure a change won't just set us back another 3 years which really would be the dagger IMO. Therein lies the problem.

I think at this point I'd be okay with Stitt at the helm but some key changes to DC and special teams. I think that's a fair and smart compromise

Or you take a chance on a sub-coordinator FBS candidate like we did with BH and like MSU did with Choate. It provides a short cut for them vs. being buried among layers of candidates to move up in FBS.

Not sure I'm following you Kem. Almost all your posts suggest Montana football has fallen off a cliff and/or Stitt should have been canned weeks ago. Then you use Choate as an example of a plausible new coach. I get that he was attainable as a low level Pac12 assistant coach.

Though I suspect Choate's results is also a good example of what we would get. I think he has his team pointed in a better direction. However in two years he has exactly two 'quality' wins (since beating the Griz is his only accomplishment). Fact is he has put together back to back losing seasons in his two years. With luck maybe in his third year he can hit 7-4 to match this year's Grizzlies record.

I'm sad as hell about Montana's lack of greater success. Yet I believe Stitt also has Montana pointed in a better direction. The foundation of the current mediocracy came from the Pflu fiasco followed by the Delaney baby sitting years. Making a coaching change today is most likely to set the program back rather than guarantee improving on the last few years. I know you won't agree but I think it is rather obvious.

 

[kemajic]

That's a huge question at hand....we didn't have mind blowing candidates the last search and I wouldn't expect any mind blowing, proven coaches this go round either. It's probably wishful thinking to think any FBS coordinators would drop their 500k salaries for a 200k salary unless they desperate want to be a head coach. So then what candidates are left? I think many just assume coaches are chomping at the bit to coach here and I don't think that's the case. I'm not thrilled with the results of this staff, but I also see the potential in their youth and what they are HOPING to build. Not sure if they will get there. Also not sure a change won't just set us back another 3 years which really would be the dagger IMO. Therein lies the problem.

I think at this point I'd be okay with Stitt at the helm but some key changes to DC and special teams. I think that's a fair and smart compromise

Or you take a chance on a sub-coordinator FBS candidate like we did with BH and like MSU did with Choate. It provides a short cut for them vs. being buried among layers of candidates to move up in FBS.

Not sure I'm following you Kem. Almost all your posts suggest Montana football has fallen off a cliff and/or Stitt should have been canned weeks ago. Then you use Choate as an example of a plausible new coach. I get that he was attainable as a low level Pac12 assistant coach.

Though I suspect Choate's results is also a good example of what we would get. I think he has his team pointed in a better direction. However in two years he has exactly two 'quality' wins (since beating the Griz is his only accomplishment). Fact is he has put together back to back losing seasons in his two years. With luck maybe in his third year he can hit 7-4 to match this year's Grizzlies record.

I'm sad as hell about Montana's lack of greater success. Yet I believe Stitt also has Montana pointed in a better direction. The foundation of the current mediocracy came from the Pflu fiasco followed by the Delaney baby sitting years. Making a coaching change today is most likely to set the program back rather than guarantee improving on the last few years. I know you won't agree but I think it is rather obvious.

You skipped over the BH example, but since you wanted to dwell on Choate, he just beat the pants off your boy Stitt two years in a row. And Montana ought to be better able to hire such a candidate than MSU. Stitt has never shown he can win big games, his approach is not built for consistent wins. Not built for sustaining offensive drives. Not built for excellence in defense or special teams. So no, it is not obvious that a coaching change now sets the program back; it's already hovering in that position.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Kem, Despite Alpha's whining over the lack of a championship I believe Hauck did an excellent job. We were damn lucky to get a guy who was a Grizzly through and through and who could coach the kids up. I wasn't trying to skip over him.

My point is we're far more likely to get a low level UDub assistant with no ties to our program and an unproven ability to win. Finding a coach who consistently beats the cats is great. However, Missoula will be in flames if we bring in a coach who beats the cats but is only going 5-6 and 4-7 overall. That benchmark is only adequate over in Bozo.

Stitt is not "my boy". None the less, I still believe changing horses at this point is far more likely to get us to 5-6 than into the championship games. I don't know if Stitt can do it either. However, despite your statement he has won big games. I believe he is capable of building a team to do it consistently again in the future.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

While we're at it.....
Gruden
Cowher
Charlie Weiss
Rex Ryan
Bill Parcels
Kesssmans HS coach

Jerry Glanville. He knows the Conference

 

[margie41]

Hauck might be interested if he is asked. He has ties to Montana and would bring back the spirit that seems to be missing with the current staff. They don't seem to motivate the players. He may even consider keeping Green and Germer and bringing TY back from Bozo. Maybe the new Pres would fire Haslem . I think the program would be better off without him.
Bobby would hit the road running on recruiting, as he has many friends in the High Schools around the State .

 

[Spanky]

At present, Bobby is the best thing that could happen to the football program.

 

[bearister]

Anyone who would not welcome and support Bobby Hauck coming back is a fricken idiot and or a Smellykat(bobcat)

Ad hominem attacks are the weakest form of argumentation.


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[bearister]

Kramer

The chances of the BOR approving a contract with Kramer are less than zero.


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[RABIDAWG]

Anyone except Grady Bennett!

 

[ORGUNGRIZ]

I am certain we all recall Haucks interview this past summer with his interest in “getting the band back together “. Hauck knows he would make less at UM than being ST coach for SDSU. That’s what makes it great! He knows 100% what he is coming into. Except this time around he has more tools to work with like the Champions Center etc. I think if Hauck is hired back he will be with UM for years to come.... Maybe even until he decides he is done coaching.
I don’t blame Hauck for going for the UNLV job. The guy wanted to try for more! I can’t fault him from that. I am certain he has used it as a learning experience and if anything made him appreciate UM even more. He has also had time to learn under Rocky Long so an even better plus in my opinion.
I have no idea if Hauck will be our next coach but I sure hope he is. I for one am ready to get the Griz swagger back and have BSC championships run Theo this Missoulian year in and year out!

 

[GrizLA]

Whereas, according to the squeaky wheels around here, this program is total garbage, has been run into the ground, and is on the front end of a long, painful decline;

And whereas, the prediction is that booster dollars are going to stop flowing, fans are going to stop attending, and Division 1 caliber recruits will not want to play here;

And whereas, due to the abysmal outlook of Montana Grizzlies football, not one even remotely qualified human being would be interested in extinguishing this dumpster fire of a program;

Now let it be resolved, that there are exactly 0 qualified candidates that could possibly be interested in coaching the Griz.

It's all over. Dismantle the whole thing.

Right on...a new coach is going to have to bring in a new game and that means a couple years of not so good results. It is rare for a new coach to succeed immediately. It happens but not as much as people think. And, most places, i.e. JMU, NDSU, pay a lot more than UM does. So, unless a guy loves the scenery I doubt UM will be the goal of an ambitious and successful coach.

 

[MTGRZ]

Whereas, according to the squeaky wheels around here, this program is total garbage, has been run into the ground, and is on the front end of a long, painful decline;

And whereas, the prediction is that booster dollars are going to stop flowing, fans are going to stop attending, and Division 1 caliber recruits will not want to play here;

And whereas, due to the abysmal outlook of Montana Grizzlies football, not one even remotely qualified human being would be interested in extinguishing this dumpster fire of a program;

Now let it be resolved, that there are exactly 0 qualified candidates that could possibly be interested in coaching the Griz.

It's all over. Dismantle the whole thing.

Right on...a new coach is going to have to bring in a new game and that means a couple years of not so good results. It is rare for a new coach to succeed immediately. It happens but not as much as people think. And, most places, i.e. JMU, NDSU, pay a lot more than UM does. So, unless a guy loves the scenery I doubt UM will be the goal of an ambitious and successful coach.

How does msu's salary compare to UM? How did they get a guy with ambition? I think we can get a good coach.

 

[i_the_sky]

You got your head in a dark hole! if there is one ounce of brains in that administration Bobby is exactly who will be walking through the dor!

 

[GrizLA]

Whereas, according to the squeaky wheels around here, this program is total garbage, has been run into the ground, and is on the front end of a long, painful decline;

And whereas, the prediction is that booster dollars are going to stop flowing, fans are going to stop attending, and Division 1 caliber recruits will not want to play here;

And whereas, due to the abysmal outlook of Montana Grizzlies football, not one even remotely qualified human being would be interested in extinguishing this dumpster fire of a program;

Now let it be resolved, that there are exactly 0 qualified candidates that could possibly be interested in coaching the Griz.

It's all over. Dismantle the whole thing.

Right on...a new coach is going to have to bring in a new game and that means a couple years of not so good results. It is rare for a new coach to succeed immediately. It happens but not as much as people think. And, most places, i.e. JMU, NDSU, pay a lot more than UM does. So, unless a guy loves the scenery I doubt UM will be the goal of an ambitious and successful coach.

How does msu's salary compare to UM? How did they get a guy with ambition? I think we can get a good coach.

Don't know, but MSU doesn't have a good record for the time he has been there. 2 wins over UM, and that is it. Personally, I don't care about that game as much as I do when UM plays Idaho.

 

[driftwood]

Phil Jackson. Let's implement the triangle offense in football!!

 

[i_the_sky]

THIS IS SILLY The best coach out there is Bobby Hauck give him the damn job before NAU signs him!!!His son is on NAU's roster and it's just a matter of time if we screw around here!!!

 

[RayWill]

Whereas, according to the squeaky wheels around here, this program is total garbage, has been run into the ground, and is on the front end of a long, painful decline;

And whereas, the prediction is that booster dollars are going to stop flowing, fans are going to stop attending, and Division 1 caliber recruits will not want to play here;

And whereas, due to the abysmal outlook of Montana Grizzlies football, not one even remotely qualified human being would be interested in extinguishing this dumpster fire of a program;

Now let it be resolved, that there are exactly 0 qualified candidates that could possibly be interested in coaching the Griz.

It's all over. Dismantle the whole thing.

Right on...a new coach is going to have to bring in a new game and that means a couple years of not so good results. It is rare for a new coach to succeed immediately. It happens but not as much as people think. And, most places, i.e. JMU, NDSU, pay a lot more than UM does. So, unless a guy loves the scenery I doubt UM will be the goal of an ambitious and successful coach.

How does msu's salary compare to UM? How did they get a guy with ambition? I think we can get a good coach.

Bob Stitt was one of the lowest paid coaches in the conference, MSU has more money not less.

 

[GrizMania]

Kramer

Oh god no

 

[GrizMania]

Matt Lubick

Now THERE is an interesting prospect !