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Who are UM's peers?
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Bisonation
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NDSU & UM Presidents & marketing staff should set up a meeting with MWC presidents. Put together a presentation showing off both fanbases, athletic success & academia success. Ask for an invite & even offer to pay $5 million entrance fee & pay for 2 years of Football travel for conference members.
Bisonation......you are right on about taking the presentation to Mountain West. I think your numbers need to be re-worked, but I love your attitude.
I have been in business over 30 years and most of my growth has always come from knocking on the customers doors and asking for the business.
I have been in business over 30 years and most of my growth has always come from knocking on the customers doors and asking for the business.
statler & waldorf
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Bisonation said:
As a non-Montanan, you would not be familiar with the problems on this end. You have an administration supportive of football and athletics generally. UM has the polar opposite in administration and a State Board of Regents which sees UM and MSU as siamese twins.
I guess I don't understand, UNDfan. Most of us have been predicting this for years. But how or why does it impact UND? I mean, let's be honest and frank: your football program is not at the level of current FBS programs. I just don't see a split of the Power Conferences changing that. Some FCS programs are ready (Montana, Liberty, JMU, etc). But other than msu, and perhaps ewoo if they actually build a real stadium (doubtful), there isn't anyone in the BSC at that level, either in terms of competitiveness or facilities.
Your part of the delusional Griz and Bison fan base that says FBS football is like English soccer: winning means promotion and losing earns relegation. It's all about money, not winning. Fullerton himself says most of the Big Sky is moving up.EverettGriz said:
https://m.soundcloud.com/siriusxmcollege/doug-fullerton-look-out-for-the-fcs-in-the-next-4-5-years
EWU
Portland St
Sac St
UC Davis
CAL Poly
Montana
MT St
UND
Idaho
have been intending a move ever since UND signed on. NDSU and SDSU may have no choice but to join us. Portland St is going to try, and if it doesn't make a dent in the Portland scene at FBS, they'll drop fb.
So Everett Griz and 20 others don't count?CDAGRIZ said:
I must have missed the years that GA St, Charlotte, TX St, UTSA, FIU, FAU, and S Alabama were FCS powers to be reckoned with. So NCAA rules insist that you must be highly esteemed by media blowhards and polls before a team can move up to FBS?
You guys seem to totally disrespect what we and others can accomplish. You are more like NDSU fans than you know.
Do you honestly believe UND isn't committed to moving to FBS with their facilities, like a 300 m indoor track with a 100 m field?
http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=58640&SPID=6399&DB_LANG=C&&DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=205670444
UNDfan said:
I can guarantee you that EG has never said that FBS football is like English soccer. I know the man. He might have said whiskey from Kentucky is like whiskey from Tennessee, or strippers in Vegas are like investment bankers in LA, or football games in North Dakota are like basketball games everywhere else, or any other accurate comparison, but he would never say CFB is like English soccer.
UNDfan said:
Actually I've said quite the oppposite. On the field success has little to do with a move to FBS. Facilities, fan support and attendance are what matters. No one in the BSC outside UM (and to a much lesser degree MSU and ewoo) have even one of those things, say nothing about all 3. Hell, Foolerton can talk all he wants about half the Conf going FBS. But while 9 of the concerence's programs
total attendance for the year doesn't equal that at ONE Griz game, it ain't happening.
UNDfan said:
Will the 300 m indoor track facility look like a quonset hut too?
KoolMoeDee
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Ursa Major said:
Exactly. UM's is much nicer.
EverettGriz said:
UM and Mr Washington proved that going bigger with a stadium will raise the fan base. Montana football had nothing to write home about til Mr Washington, as MSU was the big cat in the state. UND hockey only had like 4000 a game when it was in its old arena. The REA popped up, and suddenly 11,800 sellouts have been the rule for 15 years. Many of those fans don't bother with football anymore as it seems so second class iN comparison. Some of the most important NHL stars are UND alums, (Toews, Parise, Oshie) so football does pale in comparison. Many alums come back, but they do so to go to hockey as a sort of homecoming, not football.
In addition, the bandwagon fans, most of which have hitched on to NDSU, can be enticed back if we get a new on campus stadium and win. UND values it rivalry in hockey with Minnesota and Wisconsion and would love to have a 30,000 seat luxury football stadium to actuary host the Gophers. That would take a lot of $ but UND has five alumni that are close to a billion net worth and can make it happen. UND athletics sells more ticket by far compared to the Griz or the Bison. It's great that you underestimate us so severely, as do the bison.
UNDf, no argumment, ND has a terrific hockey program. It's clearly a legit DI program.
The rest of your department is... not. And the fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter what could lead to succes. The reality is, you DON'T have a new, large stadium, one isn't under development or even in the works, and you DON'T have a fan following. Your FB program, in short, is FAR from a legit DI program, and suggesting it's FBS level is laughable.
Yes, Montana got a new stadium and found success, which it has sustained for 30 years. Its program is clearly FBS worthy. But it's the only one in the BSC who can make that claim, and foolerton knows it.
Look, when Montana moves to the FBS level, we'll glady welcome UND's hockey program into the conference. The remainder of your programs can continue to fail at the FCS level.
The rest of your department is... not. And the fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter what could lead to succes. The reality is, you DON'T have a new, large stadium, one isn't under development or even in the works, and you DON'T have a fan following. Your FB program, in short, is FAR from a legit DI program, and suggesting it's FBS level is laughable.
Yes, Montana got a new stadium and found success, which it has sustained for 30 years. Its program is clearly FBS worthy. But it's the only one in the BSC who can make that claim, and foolerton knows it.
Look, when Montana moves to the FBS level, we'll glady welcome UND's hockey program into the conference. The remainder of your programs can continue to fail at the FCS level.
