Who are UM's peers?

[Bisonation]

Spanky. Amen brother !

 

[signedbewildered]

I have a funny feeling during the Stitt negotiations there was some talk about moving up and that is one of the reasons he took the job. OK.....I just made that up but it wouldn't surprise me if he plans on seeing us through to wherever it may be we end up.

 

[EverettGriz]

I have a funny feeling during the Stitt negotiations there was some talk about moving up and that is one of the reasons he took the job. OK.....I just made that up but it wouldn't surprise me if he plans on seeing us through to wherever it may be we end up.

You'd have to be crazy to assume that the topic didn't come up.

 

[Yukon]

I have a funny feeling during the Stitt negotiations there was some talk about moving up and that is one of the reasons he took the job. OK.....I just made that up but it wouldn't surprise me if he plans on seeing us through to wherever it may be we end up.

You'd have to be crazy to assume that the topic didn't come up.

+1

 

[WAaggieFan]

I almost hate giving life to this old thread but there are generally so many move up threads I didn't want to start another. Instead I decided to choose an existing one so this is the 'lucky' winner?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25410047/rice-utep-being-mentioned-as-mountain-west-considers-expansion

Any Mountain West expansion candidate would have to bring approximately $3.5 million in annual equity to the league.

Could UM do that to be in the discussion?

 

[MTOutsider]

http://chronicle.com/interactives/peers-network

 

[EverettGriz]

I almost hate giving life to this old thread but there are generally so many move up threads I didn't want to start another. Instead I decided to choose an existing one so this is the 'lucky' winner?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25410047/rice-utep-being-mentioned-as-mountain-west-considers-expansion

Any Mountain West expansion candidate would have to bring approximately $3.5 million in annual equity to the league.

Could UM do that to be in the discussion?

I don't see why not. They already out-draw half the MWC. Bring in better BB teams, and the attendance there would increase dramatically. Make the NCAA tournament every third year or so. Doesn't seem a stretch.

 

[bigsky33]

I almost hate giving life to this old thread but there are generally so many move up threads I didn't want to start another. Instead I decided to choose an existing one so this is the 'lucky' winner?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25410047/rice-utep-being-mentioned-as-mountain-west-considers-expansion

Any Mountain West expansion candidate would have to bring approximately $3.5 million in annual equity to the league.

Could UM do that to be in the discussion?

I don't see why not. They already out-draw half the MWC. Bring in better BB teams, and the attendance there would increase dramatically. Make the NCAA tournament every third year or so. Doesn't seem a stretch.

Never happen. The school is losing money with enrollment in the tank.

 

[EverettGriz]

I almost hate giving life to this old thread but there are generally so many move up threads I didn't want to start another. Instead I decided to choose an existing one so this is the 'lucky' winner?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25410047/rice-utep-being-mentioned-as-mountain-west-considers-expansion

Any Mountain West expansion candidate would have to bring approximately $3.5 million in annual equity to the league.

Could UM do that to be in the discussion?

I don't see why not. They already out-draw half the MWC. Bring in better BB teams, and the attendance there would increase dramatically. Make the NCAA tournament every third year or so. Doesn't seem a stretch.

Never happen. The school is losing money with enrollment in the tank.

Uhhhhh...every state school in America loses money. :?

 

[Spanky]

Our peers are Northern Colorado, Eastern Washington, Northern Arizona, Southern Utah....

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Our peers are Northern Colorado, Eastern Washington, Northern Arizona, Southern Utah....

. . . Portland State, Sac State . . . :roll:

 

[Spanky]

yep....next up, Ft. Lewis....

 

[bigsky33]

I almost hate giving life to this old thread but there are generally so many move up threads I didn't want to start another. Instead I decided to choose an existing one so this is the 'lucky' winner?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25410047/rice-utep-being-mentioned-as-mountain-west-considers-expansion
Could UM do that to be in the discussion?

I don't see why not. They already out-draw half the MWC. Bring in better BB teams, and the attendance there would increase dramatically. Make the NCAA tournament every third year or so. Doesn't seem a stretch.

Never happen. The school is losing money with enrollment in the tank.

Uhhhhh...every state school in America loses money. :?

Every school in America is not going downhill with enrollment. The BOR will not approve any type of move up.

 

[EverettGriz]

I don't see why not. They already out-draw half the MWC. Bring in better BB teams, and the attendance there would increase dramatically. Make the NCAA tournament every third year or so. Doesn't seem a stretch.

Never happen. The school is losing money with enrollment in the tank.

Uhhhhh...every state school in America loses money. :?

Every school in America is not going downhill with enrollment. The BOR will not approve any type of move up.

Enrollment is cyclical. 5 years ago UM was burying state college in enrollment. Five years from now they'll be doing it again.

And UM's athletic dept is already operating in the black (unlike state college's which robs the poor citizens of Montana each and every year to put out a vastly inferior product: that's where he BOR should draw the line). So why WOULDNT the BOR approve a move to the MWC where Montana could print money? The state could recoup the bucks your program steals from its residents every year.

 

[PlayerRep]

Never happen. The school is losing money with enrollment in the tank.

Uhhhhh...every state school in America loses money. :?

Every school in America is not going downhill with enrollment. The BOR will not approve any type of move up.

Enrollment is cyclical. 5 years ago UM was burying state college in enrollment. Five years from now they'll be doing it again.

And UM's athletic dept is already operating in the black (unlike state college's which robs the poor citizens of Montana each and every year to put out a vastly inferior product: that's where he BOR should draw the line). So why WOULDNT the BOR approve a move to the MWC where Montana could print money? The state could recoup the bucks your program steals from its residents every year.

You are dreaming, Everett. Enrollment is not really cyclical. Don't think UM was "burying" MSU in enrollment 5 years ago. Don't think UM has any chance of even catching MSU in enrollment, let along burying MSU, in 5 years. Engstrom has shown that he still doesn't even the grasp the problem, let alone know how to reverse the decline. The guy is not qualified to lead UM, in my view. At this rate, Engstrom is going to permanently impact UM in a very negative way. People like you are enablers of the decline of the University. At this rate, UM will soon be the peer of the Big Sky schools you frequently diss.

Yes, UM's athletic department and football program is stronger than MSU's, and required less State funding by several million. However, UM's athletic dept still receives many millions of State funding. UM does not have ability or financial backers to even move up to FCS, let alone get to where they could "print" money. You are a windmill chaser.

I am hearing that some faculty and others are complaining about funding for the athletic dept and about whether the athletic department should have more of the budget cuts. My impression is that the Performance Center is not yet fully and permanently funded. The Missoula College building fund-raising isn't done. For someone who supposedly works with investments, you sure seem to think that money grows on trees.

 

[EverettGriz]

Enrollment is cyclical. Spend 19 seconds on Google.

Wow! You don't like Engstrom!! Who cooks have guessed??? :? (Didn't even read that paragraph. I'm certain it's the same as each of the 932,579 posts you've made on that subject).


You're hearing wrong. Unsurprisingly.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

Enrollment is cyclical. Spend 19 seconds on Google.

Wow! You don't like Engstrom!! Who cooks have guessed??? :? (Didn't even read that paragraph. I'm certain it's the same as each of the 932,579 posts you've made on that subject).


You're hearing wrong. Unsurprisingly.

Enrollment won't be cyclical in the future regardless of what may have happened in the past. We're heading for another recession next year and frankly nobody with any sense is buying what UM is selling. This has zero to do with an over publicized rape culture and everything to do with economic pressure.

 

[EverettGriz]

I wonder how many times that's been said in history?!?! :lol:

I know plenty of those at UM saying msu would never catch up with UM just a few short years ago.

And if a recession is coming (BTW, as an economist I would LOVE to have your ability to predict definites in our economy's future!!!), why would ANYONE go into engineering? Engineering projects dry up when the economy slows.

 

[LongTimeCatFan]

I wonder how many times that's been said in history?!?! :lol:

I know plenty of those at UM saying msu would never catch up with UM just a few short years ago.

And if a recession is coming (BTW, as an economist I would LOVE to have your ability to predict definites in our economy's future!!!), why would ANYONE go into engineering? Engineering projects dry up when the economy slows.

You're an economist and you can't see the recession coming? Are you a Krugman (bury your head in the sand) type? Apparently

 

[EverettGriz]

Most economists are more concerned with inflation than they are recession. There's a reason The Fed will soon raise rates. Will the economy be up and down the next few years? Probably. But I don't know too many (non political) economists suggesting a recession.