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What would you have done different?
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wbtfg said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
As long and (un)impressive as that list of transgressions is, I think they missed a few.
Its true, they never once mentioned the Griz beating the cats in all of the accomplishments.
In all seriousness, the tough thing about that list is all the alleged occurrences. While they are embarrassing to the school/community it is tough to toss a kid off the team for allegedly doing something. Any serious offense, that has proof, (not including DUI) the player has been immediately kicked off the team.
This is not as cut and dry as it seems.
wbtfg said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
As long and (un)impressive as that list of transgressions is, I think they missed a few.
yep. they missed kemp pissing, stuberg warming up montelius et al, joyce and stapp's duis, parks assault. are they liars in p.r.'s book for not including them? :jack: that smiley is named jack. :lol:
bisonboone11
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This sounds more like what I have heard.br fan said:
getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
The linked article has so many mistakes that it isn't even credible.
Freeman was not on team when much of this occurred. He was acquitted at trial in the June '07 beer bottle incident. Why isn't that mentioned? It is not true that Freeman refused to testify at Wilson's trial. The prosecution declined to call him as a witness because they assumed he would support Wilson.
Quinn's dui at OK was a baby dui. It was a .03. It is not true that Quinn pled guilty to the 2008 dui. The charge was dropped within a week or so.
The charges against Gregorak were completely bogus and were dropped. The person in the video at the strip club was someone else. Shoddy police work.
Kemp/Johnson did not plea no contest to all the charges; only to disorderly conduct.
Nothing has come of the alleged Dec. 2011 sexual assault. Just because the accuser had been with players earlier in the evening, didn't mean they were involved in anything.
Roots domestic assault charge looks bogus. The woman apparently paid his bail and picked him up from jail (according to posts on the board), and has said she doesn't want to pursue the charge.
Where's the personal accountability of this reporter? Why is he so sloppy? Can't he just stick with the facts. There's plenty of material to work with.
PlayerRep said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
The linked article has so many mistakes that it isn't even credible.
Freeman was not on team when much of this occurred. He was acquitted at trial in the June '07 beer bottle incident. Why isn't that mentioned? It is not true that Freeman refused to testify at Wilson's trial. The prosecution declined to call him as a witness because they assumed he would support Wilson.
Quinn's dui at OK was a baby dui. It was a .03. It is not true that Quinn pled guilty to the 2008 dui. The charge was dropped within a week or so.
The charges against Gregorak were completely bogus and were dropped. The person in the video at the strip club was someone else. Shoddy police work.
Kemp/Johnson did not plea no contest to all the charges; only to disorderly conduct.
Nothing has come of the alleged Dec. 2011 sexual assault. Just because the accuser had been with players earlier in the evening, didn't mean they were involved in anything.
Roots domestic assault charge looks bogus. The woman apparently paid his bail and picked him up from jail (according to posts on the board), and has said she doesn't want to pursue the charge.
Where's the personal accountability of this reporter? Why is he so sloppy? Can't he just stick with the facts. There's plenty of material to work with.
PlayerRep said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
The linked article has so many mistakes that it isn't even credible.
Freeman was not on team when much of this occurred. He was acquitted at trial in the June '07 beer bottle incident. Why isn't that mentioned? It is not true that Freeman refused to testify at Wilson's trial. The prosecution declined to call him as a witness because they assumed he would support Wilson.
Quinn's dui at OK was a baby dui. It was a .03. It is not true that Quinn pled guilty to the 2008 dui. The charge was dropped within a week or so.
The charges against Gregorak were completely bogus and were dropped. The person in the video at the strip club was someone else. Shoddy police work.
Kemp/Johnson did not plea no contest to all the charges; only to disorderly conduct.
Nothing has come of the alleged Dec. 2011 sexual assault. Just because the accuser had been with players earlier in the evening, didn't mean they were involved in anything.
Roots domestic assault charge looks bogus. The woman apparently paid his bail and picked him up from jail (according to posts on the board), and has said she doesn't want to pursue the charge.
It is absolutely AMAZING how many run-ins people associated with the Griz football program have that end up just being "misunderstandings".
Oh, and FYI PR: do a little research on domestic violence. The face that Roots' woman "paid his bail and picked him up from jail and said she doesn't want to pursue charges" in no way makes the charge "bogus". In fact, it's an extremely common reaction from a battered spouse.
AZGrizFan said:PlayerRep said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
The linked article has so many mistakes that it isn't even credible.
Freeman was not on team when much of this occurred. He was acquitted at trial in the June '07 beer bottle incident. Why isn't that mentioned? It is not true that Freeman refused to testify at Wilson's trial. The prosecution declined to call him as a witness because they assumed he would support Wilson.
Quinn's dui at OK was a baby dui. It was a .03. It is not true that Quinn pled guilty to the 2008 dui. The charge was dropped within a week or so.
The charges against Gregorak were completely bogus and were dropped. The person in the video at the strip club was someone else. Shoddy police work.
Kemp/Johnson did not plea no contest to all the charges; only to disorderly conduct.
Nothing has come of the alleged Dec. 2011 sexual assault. Just because the accuser had been with players earlier in the evening, didn't mean they were involved in anything.
Roots domestic assault charge looks bogus. The woman apparently paid his bail and picked him up from jail (according to posts on the board), and has said she doesn't want to pursue the charge.
It is absolutely AMAZING how many run-ins people associated with the Griz football program have that end up just being "misunderstandings".
Oh, and FYI PR: do a little research on domestic violence. The face that Roots' woman "paid his bail and picked him up from jail and said she doesn't want to pursue charges" in no way makes the charge "bogus". In fact, it's an extremely common reaction from a battered spouse.
If a woman bites and scratches the guy, and starts hitting him, and he puts up his hands to protect himself and/or pushes her back, I say the charges are bogus. It's my understanding that the guy will get arrested in a situation like this, even if the woman is the aggressor. Again, bogus.
grizbrokebacker1
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PlayerRep said:AZGrizFan said:PlayerRep said:getgrizzy said:http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2012/04/12/a-play-by-play-look?blog=2
chew on that playerrep.
The linked article has so many mistakes that it isn't even credible.
Freeman was not on team when much of this occurred. He was acquitted at trial in the June '07 beer bottle incident. Why isn't that mentioned? It is not true that Freeman refused to testify at Wilson's trial. The prosecution declined to call him as a witness because they assumed he would support Wilson.
Quinn's dui at OK was a baby dui. It was a .03. It is not true that Quinn pled guilty to the 2008 dui. The charge was dropped within a week or so.
The charges against Gregorak were completely bogus and were dropped. The person in the video at the strip club was someone else. Shoddy police work.
Kemp/Johnson did not plea no contest to all the charges; only to disorderly conduct.
Nothing has come of the alleged Dec. 2011 sexual assault. Just because the accuser had been with players earlier in the evening, didn't mean they were involved in anything.
Roots domestic assault charge looks bogus. The woman apparently paid his bail and picked him up from jail (according to posts on the board), and has said she doesn't want to pursue the charge.
It is absolutely AMAZING how many run-ins people associated with the Griz football program have that end up just being "misunderstandings".
Oh, and FYI PR: do a little research on domestic violence. The face that Roots' woman "paid his bail and picked him up from jail and said she doesn't want to pursue charges" in no way makes the charge "bogus". In fact, it's an extremely common reaction from a battered spouse.
If a woman bites and scratches the guy, and starts hitting him, and he puts up his hands to protect himself and/or pushes her back, I say the charges are bogus. It's my understanding that the guy will get arrested in a situation like this, even if the woman is the aggressor. Again, bogus.
Apparently you never reproduced and had daughters. Thank God for that.
grizbrokebacker1
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PlayerRep said:
I feel sorry for your daughters considering you think it's ok for a man to push them and put his hands around their throat. Good for you my mannequin, good for you.
ALPHAGRIZ1
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PlayerRep said:
2 college daughters.................I bet they know dick.
ilovethecats
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ALPHAGRIZ1 said:PlayerRep said:
2 college daughters.................I bet they know dick.
any takers on whose side jack would take if a player ever got accused of physically or sexually assulting one of them.....? :shock:
i know where i'd place my bet. :?
ALPHAGRIZ1
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ilovethecats said:ALPHAGRIZ1 said:PlayerRep said:
2 college daughters.................I bet they know dick.
any takers on whose side jack would take if a player ever got accused of physically or sexually assulting one of them.....? :shock:
i know where i'd place my bet. :?
He would side with the players.
I mean he kinda sold his daughters out on a message board the way he did so....yeah I would go with the players.
Tokyogriz
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No one on this board would have or could have done jack shit differently. The issue really is all about perceptions that are based on changing conditions and public moods. Those have changed significantly since the child rape allegations in the penn state showers that surfaced last year as we all damn well know.
Now the reality is everyone seems to want to have the perfect "Role Model" athlete not just at the pro level but at the college level as well. These kids are to be put on a pedastal only to be torn down when they make any mistake or any allegation is cast their way. There are cases of student athletes that do deserve and get punished for breaking the law, but this goes way past that.
Athletes are NOT the role models that you need to have your children aspire to be, YOU SHOULD BE THAT ROLE MODEL!
Seems to me like 99% of the "string em up" Mob mentallity morons on here dont actually get that.
None of you with this thinking will actually make a real difference in the long run because your unwilling to change yourselves but would rather blame others for the issues in our society.
Now the reality is everyone seems to want to have the perfect "Role Model" athlete not just at the pro level but at the college level as well. These kids are to be put on a pedastal only to be torn down when they make any mistake or any allegation is cast their way. There are cases of student athletes that do deserve and get punished for breaking the law, but this goes way past that.
Athletes are NOT the role models that you need to have your children aspire to be, YOU SHOULD BE THAT ROLE MODEL!
Seems to me like 99% of the "string em up" Mob mentallity morons on here dont actually get that.
None of you with this thinking will actually make a real difference in the long run because your unwilling to change yourselves but would rather blame others for the issues in our society.
ALPHAGRIZ1
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Hey dont you EVER make a post without bashing Royce Engstrom again.....................you hack. This board needs consistency Jokyo not half-assedness.
