What Came 1st, The Snap, or the Timeout?

[Flathead Cat]

 

[horribilisfan8184]

So you found the sculptor's model of the Great Divide Trophy. Nice work there.

 

[Flathead Cat]

So you found the sculptor's model of the Great Divide Trophy. Nice work there.

lol. no doubt. seriously, what kind of grass root effort would it take to replace that damn thing? ugliest trophy in sports imho....

 

[grizghost]

...the poop story is almost as believable as the fart story on the guys head (NIU)..give me a break!
somebody got to much time on their hands...

 

[IHateRobPhenicie]

Who cares when the time out was called? They should have punched it in on the next play. That's the only fact that matters.

A number of the posters making the 222 posts, and 7,000 viewers, cared, even if you didn't. It's the most popular thread on the first page, I believe, and has been for days.

The more relevant question might be who cares what you think, judging from your posting history and your screen name.

Shockingly you missed the point of my post. Weird. As for my posting history? This site has become a shell of what it once was.

 

[grizindabox]

This site has become a shell of what it once was.

So has Griz football.

 

[Stop_HammerTime69]

The snap came first.

 

[G&B]

Snap for sure.

 

[SACCAT66]

The snap came first.

Nope

 

[kyle_sample]

I recorded the play on my phone from the NEZ and took a look at it this morning. Zooming in, I could see Choate standing right by the sideline ref, getting ready to call for the TO. But the ball was definitely snapped right before the reform started running onto the field waving his arms and blowing his whistle.

In a situation when a play determines the outcome of the game, wouldn’t you have the replay officials review the timing of the TO to make sure you get the call right? If the ball is snapped before the ref blows his whistle, you shouldn’t be able to stop the play and reverse the resulted play. But like others have said, this wouldn’t be an issue had we not struggled and let them make a comeback.

Where was Choate standing next to the ref? A friend said he thought Choate was at the goal line, which would be illegal. I don't have the game recorded so I couldn't rewatch.

For the record, if Choate wasn't near the goal line, I think the timeout was fair. Just an unfortunate break

 

[PlayerRep]

I recorded the play on my phone from the NEZ and took a look at it this morning. Zooming in, I could see Choate standing right by the sideline ref, getting ready to call for the TO. But the ball was definitely snapped right before the reform started running onto the field waving his arms and blowing his whistle.

In a situation when a play determines the outcome of the game, wouldn’t you have the replay officials review the timing of the TO to make sure you get the call right? If the ball is snapped before the ref blows his whistle, you shouldn’t be able to stop the play and reverse the resulted play. But like others have said, this wouldn’t be an issue had we not struggled and let them make a comeback.

Where was Choate standing next to the ref? A friend said he thought Choate was at the goal line, which would be illegal. I don't have the game recorded so I couldn't rewatch.

For the record, if Choate wasn't near the goal line, I think the timeout was fair. Just an unfortunate break

Get Em, please post the video.

Kyle, is it illegal to stand on goal or next to ref on goal line?

 

[rivercat]

Just wow.....refer back to page 10 of this thread where Bobby is at the goal line and on the field calling a TO on the previous play.

 

[PlayerRep]

Just wow.....refer back to page 10 of this thread where Bobby is at the goal line and on the field calling a TO on the previous play.

Hauck ran to where the refs were to call a TO after a play had been run, not before. He was stopping the clock, not stopping a play at
the last second. He wasn’t standing at the goal line with a ref ahead of the play to call a TO. Don’t know how the rule is interpreted or enforced. Do you? See Sample’s recent post.

You obviously know nothing about the rule or
the facts.

 

[catsack]

Just wow.....refer back to page 10 of this thread where Bobby is at the goal line and on the field calling a TO on the previous play.

Hauck ran to where the refs were to call a TO after a play had been run, not before. He was stopping the clock, not stopping a play at
the last second. He wasn’t standing at the goal line with a ref ahead of the play to call a TO. Don’t know how the rule is interpreted or enforced. Do you? See Sample’s recent post.

You obviously know nothing about the rule or
the facts.

You’re an insider with the coaching staff , what do they say about the play? Certainly they have a camera angle that shows Choate and the timeout, would be interesting too see it . As far as the whistle go once it’s blown the play is dead. The snap was probably first, what I think happened is the ref was told by Choate he was going to call a timeout and the ref called the timeout for him at the snap without Choate actually getting the timeout called. I don’t think the TV shows him calling a timeout, but I’m sure the griz have a camera angle that shows what actually happened!

 

[getgrizzy]

This is the rule:
“If the ball is being snapped from beyond the team area, the head coach may leave the coaching box to request a timeout or to initiate an instant replay challenge.” (There is no rule stating how far down the sideline the coach can go.)

Team area is between the 25s and behind the “limit line”. The limit line is six feet behind the sideline.

Coaches box is the area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25s.

 

[Washgrizfan1]

This is the rule:
“If the ball is being snapped from beyond the team area, the head coach may leave the coaching box to request a timeout or to initiate an instant replay challenge.” (There is no rule stating how far down the sideline the coach can go.)

Team area is between the 25s and behind the “limit line”. The limit line is six feet behind the sideline.

Coaches box is the area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25s.

What's the citation/location of the rule you quoted, or is there a link? Thanks.

 

[getgrizzy]

This is the rule:
“If the ball is being snapped from beyond the team area, the head coach may leave the coaching box to request a timeout or to initiate an instant replay challenge.” (There is no rule stating how far down the sideline the coach can go.)

Team area is between the 25s and behind the “limit line”. The limit line is six feet behind the sideline.

Coaches box is the area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25s.

What's the citation/location of the rule you quoted, or is there a link? Thanks.

For field areas:

https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-1-the-game-field-players-and-equipment/2/

For calling timeout:

https://www1.arbitersports.com/Groups/109471/Library/files/2017_Sideline_Management.pdf

(see the third bullet under item 3.)

 

[SACCAT66]

This is the rule:
“If the ball is being snapped from beyond the team area, the head coach may leave the coaching box to request a timeout or to initiate an instant replay challenge.” (There is no rule stating how far down the sideline the coach can go.)

Team area is between the 25s and behind the “limit line”. The limit line is six feet behind the sideline.

Coaches box is the area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25s.

What's the citation/location of the rule you quoted, or is there a link? Thanks.

For field areas:

https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-1-the-game-field-players-and-equipment/2/

For calling timeout:

https://www1.arbitersports.com/Groups/109471/Library/files/2017_Sideline_Management.pdf

(see the third bullet under item 3.)

Well there you have it...case closed.

 

[AZGrizFan]

This is the rule:
“If the ball is being snapped from beyond the team area, the head coach may leave the coaching box to request a timeout or to initiate an instant replay challenge.” (There is no rule stating how far down the sideline the coach can go.)

Team area is between the 25s and behind the “limit line”. The limit line is six feet behind the sideline.

Coaches box is the area between the coaching line and the limit line between the 25s.

What's the citation/location of the rule you quoted, or is there a link? Thanks.

For field areas:

https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-1-the-game-field-players-and-equipment/2/

For calling timeout:

https://www1.arbitersports.com/Groups/109471/Library/files/2017_Sideline_Management.pdf

(see the third bullet under item 3.)

Well there you have it...case closed.

Noooooo! We are SO CLOSE to 17!!! Don’t close the case at the 5 yard line, man!!

 

[SACCAT66]

What's the citation/location of the rule you quoted, or is there a link? Thanks.

For field areas:

https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-1-the-game-field-players-and-equipment/2/

For calling timeout:

https://www1.arbitersports.com/Groups/109471/Library/files/2017_Sideline_Management.pdf

(see the third bullet under item 3.)

Well there you have it...case closed.

Noooooo! We are SO CLOSE to 17!!! Don’t close the case at the 5 yard line, man!!

There still is the opinion that he was standing there NEXT to the ref waiting to call it. In that case, I am not sure of the rules...I have faith that PR, or someone who played the game longer than I did will have an answer..