Weber Eww

[AZGrizFan]

Griz thankfully do not need P5 body bag games to make ends meet. Not sure that your AD did you any favors scheduling two in one season, but I guess you do what you have to do, especially when there are talks of dropping football or going D2. You guys should have beat MSU at home, but shot yourselves in the foot. That’s a real bummer. In regard to your prediction for Um, the Griz would have to have a historically bad run to lose all three of our tough road games. I’m thinking we win at Weber because we match up well with them and lose at sac because we match up poorly with them. We will win the rest leading up to the brawl of the wild which could go either way. Right now it appears that MSU has the better offense while UM has the better defense. To your point, if UM had your schedule with its current roster I’d say we’d be sitting at 3-2 with wins against all of its FCS opponents because I think we match up very well with all of the ones you’ve played so far. That’s my honest assessment

Actually, the Florida game was rescheduled from a 2020 game, but Covid prevented that game. So it was rescheduled to 2022, but OREGON was also on the schedule, just bad timing, unlucky scheduling on EWU part. But yes, they do need the money, so they kept both games, knowing they’d need to finish 7-4 this season to make the playoffs. So now they need to run the table. It’s doable with Sac St at home and the Griz on the road, but no room for error. The MSU loss really hurts. To bad it was left up to replay, but water under the bridge now. Best of luck guys. Also, thanks for an intelligent post unlike like the hoops guy with his Gin and tonic posts, lol!

And if you took care of conference games the two body bag games wouldn’t matter. But you can’t seem to win THOSE either, so see ya next year.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Wow, a lot of EWU bashing going on, but I get it, 1-4 to start the season. The 2nd half of the Weber game was a disaster as both the O/D didn’t perform well at all, so lots of questions, I get it. But to say your record is what it is, is a bit misleading. EWU, the last 4 losses, have faced OREGON, Montana State(38-35) and lost on a replay, Florida( on a Sunday) the flight home was delayed 9-10 hours, they got home Monday at 3AM, then onto Weber, again on the Road. Toughest schedule in the NATION!!! How would have the Griz have fared on this schedule? I’m guessing the same. Griz are 5-0 and have had a very relaxing schedule, and will start the season at 7-0, But May very well finish the last 4 games 0-4. I don’t hope for that, but their season starts then. This could be a transition year for EWU, but they didn’t go after the 23 transfers that MSU has and the many( I didn’t count) that the Griz have this year. Good luck to you all, I didn’t come to your site to bash, but talk straight football stuff! GO EAGS

I agree with you. But I think UM will finish 3-2 to end the year.

You have a very negative view of the strength of the Griz team.

 

[mtgrizrule]

EWU defense is terrible. Fortunately for them, they can only improve. Their offense isn't as explosive as with past teams.

As for Weber State, keep their running game in check. If the GRIZ can score 24, and not have costly turnovers, GRIZ should win. Ditto this regarding MSU.

 

[CatsRback]

I think EWU is a good team. They’re “middle of the pack” material because the top 4 are auto top 7 teams. Who has EWU lost to outside the top 7 and FBS? I think they’re top 25. Same with UCD. That’s not bad at all!

Offfffff course you do. Because those are the teams the cats struggled to beat.

Now, no one agrees with you. But why allow that to destroy your dream that the cats have played someone.

No one agrees? Aw man! Guys! Egris doesn’t agree with me ((! How was watching the Cats this weekend? Feel like December already?

 

[argh!]

No one agrees? Aw man! Guys! Egris doesn’t agree with me ((! How was watching the Cats this weekend? Feel like December already?

watching the cat fans act like idiots on egriz does indeed feel like december.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Haha, Everett Griz, the Cats have played tougher games than the Griz this far. Tell me, WHO Have the Griz played? And yes, I’m stone sober unlike you. Lol. Chill out boss, it’s just a discussion.
Griz 28 -20 over Idaho state, lol!!!
Just being real.

Did you watch the Griz-ISU game? In spite of 3 turnovers and 2 turnovers on downs, it was 28-6 with 5 mins left in the game. 2 garbage time TDs made the score close, but the game wasn’t. Griz doubled them up in yardage, first downs, etc.

What did you think of Bison only beating Indy St 31-26. Recall Griz beat them 49-14. Does that make NDSU team bad suddenly?

This is Talon’s idea of intelligent discussion.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

You are what your record says you are.

Griz,Cats and Sac are clearly miles ahead of anyone else in the Sky right now,IMO. Weber plays the afore-mentioned 3 teams in a row soon, and has a chance to prove they belong, but I'm not buying it yet. EWU also has a chance vs Sac next week to prove something, but as much as I hate to say it, Sac scares me.

Sac maybe, but what has Montana or Montana State done to prove they are miles a head of Weber?

Not counting Western Oregon, Weber's offense has averaged 35 points a game. While the defense has given up an average of 10 points a game. And that is against opposition stronger than anything Montana has faced this year.

I do think the top 4 are Sac, the Montana's and Weber. But in my opinion Sac and Weber have done more to prove their rankings than either of the Montana's.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Griz,Cats and Sac are clearly miles ahead of anyone else in the Sky right now,IMO. Weber plays the afore-mentioned 3 teams in a row soon, and has a chance to prove they belong, but I'm not buying it yet. EWU also has a chance vs Sac next week to prove something, but as much as I hate to say it, Sac scares me.

Sac maybe, but what has Montana or Montana State done to prove they are miles a head of Weber?

Not counting Western Oregon, Weber's offense has averaged 35 points a game. While the defense has given up an average of 10 points a game. And that is against opposition stronger than anything Montana has faced this year.

I do think the top 4 are Sac, the Montana's and Weber. But in my opinion Sac and Weber have done more to prove their rankings than either of the Montana's.

I actually completely agree

 

[AZGrizFan]

Griz,Cats and Sac are clearly miles ahead of anyone else in the Sky right now,IMO. Weber plays the afore-mentioned 3 teams in a row soon, and has a chance to prove they belong, but I'm not buying it yet. EWU also has a chance vs Sac next week to prove something, but as much as I hate to say it, Sac scares me.

Sac maybe, but what has Montana or Montana State done to prove they are miles a head of Weber?

Not counting Western Oregon, Weber's offense has averaged 35 points a game. While the defense has given up an average of 10 points a game. And that is against opposition stronger than anything Montana has faced this year.

I do think the top 4 are Sac, the Montana's and Weber. But in my opinion Sac and Weber have done more to prove their rankings than either of the Montana's.

I don’t get it. Utah Tech. Western Oregon. And a 1-4 UCD (who’s only win is San Diego) and 1-4 EWU (who’s only win is Tennessee State). Sure the teams they’ve played in conference are “historically good”, but they have proven to not be very good this year. And Utah Tech? Western Oregon? I wouldnt’ exactly go nuts over Weber’s opposition strength either.

Three of Sac’s wins are UNC and Cal Poly and Utah Tech. One of their other ones is Northern Iowa who beat Indiana State by a crushing score of 20-14 (you know, same team we beat 49-14?). If UNI is considered a “good” win, then Indiana State and South Dakota should certainly be considered “good” wins for UM. If they’re not considered a “good” win for Sac, then what IS their good win?

 

[WILDCATFAN]

Sac maybe, but what has Montana or Montana State done to prove they are miles a head of Weber?

Not counting Western Oregon, Weber's offense has averaged 35 points a game. While the defense has given up an average of 10 points a game. And that is against opposition stronger than anything Montana has faced this year.

I do think the top 4 are Sac, the Montana's and Weber. But in my opinion Sac and Weber have done more to prove their rankings than either of the Montana's.

I don’t get it. Utah Tech. Western Oregon. And a 1-4 UCD (who’s only win is San Diego) and 1-4 EWU (who’s only win is Tennessee State). Sure the teams they’ve played in conference are “historically good”, but they have proven to not be very good this year. And Utah Tech? Western Oregon? I wouldnt’ exactly go nuts over Weber’s opposition strength either.

Three of Sac’s wins are UNC and Cal Poly and Utah Tech. One of their other ones is Northern Iowa who beat Indiana State by a crushing score of 20-14 (you know, same team we beat 49-14?). If UNI is considered a “good” win, then Indiana State and South Dakota should certainly be considered “good” wins for UM. If they’re not considered a “good” win for Sac, then what IS their good win?

I would take Utah State, Eastern Wash and UC Davis as better wins than any of Montana's by a long shot. But that's just me.

And I did take out the Western Oregon game from my percentages. So my numbers are against Div.1 opponents only.

31 and 28 point road victories over FBS teams is impressive. Regardless how "bad" those FBS teams are.

My whole point I tried to make was to ask what has Montana or Montana State done to be miles ahead of Weber? Especially when Weber has played a tougher schedule. Say what you want about Utah Tech but they put up 33 against Sac. UC Davis lost by 2 at #2 SDSU who just beat South Dakota by 25 points. And Eastern Washington was ranked and might be having a better season had they not been scheduled through the meat grinder.

To finish, Im just not convinced Montana, MSU and Sac are MILES ahead of Weber. They havent proven that.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I don’t get it. Utah Tech. Western Oregon. And a 1-4 UCD (who’s only win is San Diego) and 1-4 EWU (who’s only win is Tennessee State). Sure the teams they’ve played in conference are “historically good”, but they have proven to not be very good this year. And Utah Tech? Western Oregon? I wouldnt’ exactly go nuts over Weber’s opposition strength either.

Three of Sac’s wins are UNC and Cal Poly and Utah Tech. One of their other ones is Northern Iowa who beat Indiana State by a crushing score of 20-14 (you know, same team we beat 49-14?). If UNI is considered a “good” win, then Indiana State and South Dakota should certainly be considered “good” wins for UM. If they’re not considered a “good” win for Sac, then what IS their good win?

I would take Utah State, Eastern Wash and UC Davis as better wins than any of Montana's by a long shot. But that's just me.

And I did take out the Western Oregon game from my percentages. So my numbers are against Div.1 opponents only.

31 and 28 point road victories over FBS teams is impressive. Regardless how "bad" those FBS teams are.

My whole point I tried to make was to ask what has Montana or Montana State done to be miles ahead of Weber? Especially when Weber has played a tougher schedule. Say what you want about Utah Tech but they put up 33 against Sac. UC Davis lost by 2 at #2 SDSU who just beat South Dakota by 25 points. And Eastern Washington was ranked and might be having a better season had they not been scheduled through the meat grinder.

To finish, Im just not convinced Montana, MSU and Sac are MILES ahead of Weber. They havent proven that.

UM beat SD by 17, so that comparison of yours is about a push. UM beat Indiana St by 35, and NDSU only beat IS by 5, so there's that. So, do you argue that UM is 30 points better than NDSU?

I don't disagree with you on the "miles ahead" part of the comment. Weber is obviously good, and that will be a tough game for the Griz.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I would take Utah State, Eastern Wash and UC Davis as better wins than any of Montana's by a long shot. But that's just me.

And I did take out the Western Oregon game from my percentages. So my numbers are against Div.1 opponents only.

31 and 28 point road victories over FBS teams is impressive. Regardless how "bad" those FBS teams are.

My whole point I tried to make was to ask what has Montana or Montana State done to be miles ahead of Weber? Especially when Weber has played a tougher schedule. Say what you want about Utah Tech but they put up 33 against Sac. UC Davis lost by 2 at #2 SDSU who just beat South Dakota by 25 points. And Eastern Washington was ranked and might be having a better season had they not been scheduled through the meat grinder.

To finish, Im just not convinced Montana, MSU and Sac are MILES ahead of Weber. They havent proven that.

UM beat SD by 17, so that comparison of yours is about a push. UM beat Indiana St by 35, and NDSU only beat IS by 5, so there's that. So, do you argue that UM is 30 points better than NDSU?

I don't disagree with you on the "miles ahead" part of the comment. Weber is obviously good, and that will be a tough game for the Griz.

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

 

[mthoopsfan]

UM beat SD by 17, so that comparison of yours is about a push. UM beat Indiana St by 35, and NDSU only beat IS by 5, so there's that. So, do you argue that UM is 30 points better than NDSU?

I don't disagree with you on the "miles ahead" part of the comment. Weber is obviously good, and that will be a tough game for the Griz.

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

I agree that NDSU doesn't seem to be as good as usual, but I really don't know as I haven't watched them. The Griz are better than last year, but it remains to be seen how much better. The coming games will be tough and will show what the Griz are made of this year. The Griz started to get a bit unhealthy by the last game, so they need to improve in that regard.

 

[ilovethecats]

UM beat SD by 17, so that comparison of yours is about a push. UM beat Indiana St by 35, and NDSU only beat IS by 5, so there's that. So, do you argue that UM is 30 points better than NDSU?

I don't disagree with you on the "miles ahead" part of the comment. Weber is obviously good, and that will be a tough game for the Griz.

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

I’d love if you were correct but I’ve been hearing this for about a decade and about 90% of the time the person saying it was incorrect.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

I agree that NDSU doesn't seem to be as good as usual, but I really don't know as I haven't watched them. The Griz are better than last year, but it remains to be seen how much better. The coming games will be tough and will show what the Griz are made of this year. The Griz started to get a bit unhealthy by the last game, so they need to improve in that regard.

I've watched a few on replay on ESPN+ They are winning but they arent doing it in the dominating fashion they usually do. Especially on the road. If they are forced to play on the road in the playoffs, they could be beat. Right now I feel like they are #1 on name and reputation only. But they've earned that.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

I’d love if you were correct but I’ve been hearing this for about a decade and about 90% of the time the person saying it was incorrect.

NDSU does tend to make doubters eat their words. But from just what I've seen they dont look like the NDSU of old. Time will tell of course.

 

[kemajic]

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

Maybe it will be SacSt....

 

[WILDCATFAN]

I would argue NDSU is not as good as they have been and are beatable. This is a good year for someone to knock them off. Maybe it will be Montana.....maybe it will be Weber. Who knows.

Maybe it will be SacSt....

Yeah maybe. I wouldn't count them out. They're looking great!

 

[ABQCat]

Maybe it will be SacSt....

Yeah maybe. I wouldn't count them out. They're looking great!

Weber looked vulnerable at Davis. UM looked vulnerable at ISU. Yes, the Bobcats have looked vulnerable in multiple games. NDSU looked vulnerable at Indiana St. You know who hasn't looked vulnerable? Sac. Right now, today, Sac is the team to beat in this conference.

 

[weberwildcat]

i think even though weber is 5-0 many are overlooking its great D which has been annual under Jay Hill. last yr we went 6-5 with no offense, our D had to score points. This yr the offense can score so we are like a new team.

In 2022 the Weber D has allowed 5 touchdowns in 5 games.

1. non DI (who cares): 0 touchdowns
2. Utah St: 0
3. @ Utah Tech: 2
4. @ Davis: 1
5. EWU: 2

overall our D is allowing 11.8 ppg. I would say though ewu and davis have horrible win/loss record they have played by far the most difficult schedule out of any teams, maybe in all of FCS. i wonder if idaho is flying under the radar as well having played 2 fbs.

As it stands weber has now won 9 of last 10 games and 10 of last 12. We head to PSU saturday, Jay hill is 7-0 last 3 seasons in big sky road games, 10-1 last 4 seasons, 26-5 over his 8 seasons. i still cant believe weber has 4 straight wins vs ewu.