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Vernon Adams Back?

I have read 23 articles in the last day indicating that Vernon may finish up a math class (yes, "math," not "meth") at Eastern Washington in the next few weeks, and will probably be a few days late for Oregon's fall camp, but will likely pass the class and play for Oregon. But he's really excited about it.

Jesus, I'm starting to think BigSky33 might be right.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
You didn't prove shit, you cherry picked a game that EWU won and Gregorek is 0 and infinite against Adams. VA even says he loves going against TG defenses because they are predictable and very little changes during the game.

If you played the game you sucked at it
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Well he did tackle Ed Marinaro( Hill Street Blues Guy). Or was it Calvin Hill? I forgot......
 
CV Griz Fan said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
PR, statistically, yes VA has been a great QB. The GRIZ have done a solid job compared to other teams against him though. Alpha feels VA is overrated and is not as good as his stats make him look. I actually feel Alpha has a legitimate point. He has thrown up so many jump balls just to have his WR's bail him out on a questionable decision. Some will argue, it is not a bad decision if his WR ends up with ball. It is hard to argue that as well. However, many coaches would prefer a qb not throw crap like that. He is fortunate to have gotten away with bad decisions in the conference. He will not be as successful doing that at the BCS level or the NFL.

I'd take Armanti Edwards during his college career over Adams at QB. Edwards was actually a pretty disciplined QB and good decision maker. I will pull for Adams to do well at Oregon. Not because of Adams, but because I pull for the BCS teams in the west to win a championship.
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This is what Alpha said: "Gregorek has made Adams what he was". That is not accurate, and I certainly don't agree with it. From your post, you don't agree with it either. I countered Alpha's comment, at least indirectly, by providing the stats of the very last game UM had played VA. Gregorak didn't make VA in that game. In fact, in 2014, UM sacked VA 10 times (5 in each game, and the 2d most of any time other than UW). Alpha said I cherry-picked stats from the first game VA returned from injury, but that wasn't accurate.\

As for your post, I used to think that VA was lucky on so many of his passes, like the jump balls, but I changed my mind as time went on--because VA and his receivers consistently caught the ball. If someone is lucky all the time, or almost all the time, then I think they may be more good than lucky. I too might take Edwards over VA. However, VA is very talented, and he could be terrific in the Oregon offense and with their talent. Not having worked out with the team all summer and being late for fall camp, isn't going to help him, though.

As for you comments about the level of competition, how do you explain VA's tremendous stats and results against UW and Oregon St? Truly amazing stats. UW - 475 yards, 7 TD's, no interceptions, and 67.4%. OSU - 411 yards, 4 TD's, no interceptions, 76.7%, and 16 carries for 107 yards and 2 TD's. Personally, I don't think his stats and results against UW and OSU are attributable to luck--and obviously that wasn't against FCS competition. Note the zero interceptions.
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TG did commit to try to stop VA and Eastern's vaunted passing game in the playoff matchup. He actually did a decent job but VA and Eastern just adjusted and ran the football. Forte' had a big day gaining 128 yards and VA ran for some. Was that better coaching? Who knows? In addition, Eastern's much maligned D played extremely well in that game too. So did their special teams with the blocked punt. That was the difference. VA did torched the Griz for 400yards during the regular season matchup. Plus Kupp had a punt return TD. IMO, Eastern showed that they were a pretty balanced team last year against the Griz. After all the trash talking between the two fan bases, Eastern had the more complete team. That was obvious....
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Looks like you agree that Gregorak didn't make EA, as Alpha said. I agree with much of your post. However, VA did not make the adjustment to the run game in the playoff game; the EWU coaches did. And, EA was 12 for 37 running, with one 29 yarder. So, he was completely bottled up except for one run. Forte ran for 128, at 6.1 per carry. No one else had more than EA.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
You didn't prove shit, you cherry picked a game that EWU won and Gregorek is 0 and infinite against Adams. VA even says he loves going against TG defenses because they are predictable and very little changes during the game.

If you played the game you sucked at it
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Well he did tackle Ed Marinaro( Hill Street Blues Guy). Or was it Calvin Hill? I forgot......
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And Dick Jauron, Hank Bjorkland, George Starke, Tim Berra (Yogi's son), Eddie Jenkins, Don Martin, Joe Wilson, Marty Domres (almost). Keep a look out for Ed Marinaro in Blue Mountain State, the Movie, to be released soon.
 
PlayerRep said:
CV Griz Fan said:
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
PR, statistically, yes VA has been a great QB. The GRIZ have done a solid job compared to other teams against him though. Alpha feels VA is overrated and is not as good as his stats make him look. I actually feel Alpha has a legitimate point. He has thrown up so many jump balls just to have his WR's bail him out on a questionable decision. Some will argue, it is not a bad decision if his WR ends up with ball. It is hard to argue that as well. However, many coaches would prefer a qb not throw crap like that. He is fortunate to have gotten away with bad decisions in the conference. He will not be as successful doing that at the BCS level or the NFL.

I'd take Armanti Edwards during his college career over Adams at QB. Edwards was actually a pretty disciplined QB and good decision maker. I will pull for Adams to do well at Oregon. Not because of Adams, but because I pull for the BCS teams in the west to win a championship.
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This is what Alpha said: "Gregorek has made Adams what he was". That is not accurate, and I certainly don't agree with it. From your post, you don't agree with it either. I countered Alpha's comment, at least indirectly, by providing the stats of the very last game UM had played VA. Gregorak didn't make VA in that game. In fact, in 2014, UM sacked VA 10 times (5 in each game, and the 2d most of any time other than UW). Alpha said I cherry-picked stats from the first game VA returned from injury, but that wasn't accurate.\

As for your post, I used to think that VA was lucky on so many of his passes, like the jump balls, but I changed my mind as time went on--because VA and his receivers consistently caught the ball. If someone is lucky all the time, or almost all the time, then I think they may be more good than lucky. I too might take Edwards over VA. However, VA is very talented, and he could be terrific in the Oregon offense and with their talent. Not having worked out with the team all summer and being late for fall camp, isn't going to help him, though.

As for you comments about the level of competition, how do you explain VA's tremendous stats and results against UW and Oregon St? Truly amazing stats. UW - 475 yards, 7 TD's, no interceptions, and 67.4%. OSU - 411 yards, 4 TD's, no interceptions, 76.7%, and 16 carries for 107 yards and 2 TD's. Personally, I don't think his stats and results against UW and OSU are attributable to luck--and obviously that wasn't against FCS competition. Note the zero interceptions.
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TG did commit to try to stop VA and Eastern's vaunted passing game in the playoff matchup. He actually did a decent job but VA and Eastern just adjusted and ran the football. Forte' had a big day gaining 128 yards and VA ran for some. Was that better coaching? Who knows? In addition, Eastern's much maligned D played extremely well in that game too. So did their special teams with the blocked punt. That was the difference. VA did torched the Griz for 400yards during the regular season matchup. Plus Kupp had a punt return TD. IMO, Eastern showed that they were a pretty balanced team last year against the Griz. After all the trash talking between the two fan bases, Eastern had the more complete team. That was obvious....
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Looks like you agree that Gregorak didn't make EA, as Alpha said. I agree with much of your post. However, VA did not make the adjustment to the run game in the playoff game; the EWU coaches did. And, EA was 12 for 37 running, with one 29 yarder. So, he was completely bottled up except for one run. Forte ran for 128, at 6.1 per carry. No one else had more than EA.
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It's a matter of degree with me. Is VA a good player? Of course. So I don't fully believe that TG has made VA. But I've also been critical of TG. I just don't think he has done a GREAT job especially against Eastern. Did the Griz D have the talent to match up against VA, Kupp etc.? No. Not in my opinion. Eastern's athletes put too much pressure on our less athletic DBs. It was the 2013 game that really accentuated this point IMO. Everyone in the Griz back 7 struggled in that game....
 
CV: "t's a matter of degree with me. Is VA a good player? Of course. So I don't fully believe that TG has made VA. But I've also been critical of TG. I just don't think he has done a GREAT job especially against Eastern. Did the Griz D have the talent to match up against VA, Kupp etc.? No. Not in my opinion. Eastern's athletes put too much pressure on our less athletic DBs. It was the 2013 game that really accentuated this point IMO. Everyone in the Griz back 7 struggled in that game...."

Perhaps true, but, again, indicates that you don't agree, at all, that Gregorak made VA. Obviously, Alpha's comment is totally ridiculous and untrue. VA had 3 nice games against UM, but not so much in the 4th.
 
Soo...the obvious question how is this value added and why even bother? Unless PR's meter is running, dude has done his flyby one way or the other.
 
kemajic said:
NLGrizFan said:
Bertram said:
Duck's Head Coach, held a press conference today to address VA 's transfer (and other things). He's still gonna be a Duck
http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/report-qb-vernon-adams-plans-being-late-oregon-fall-camp
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It's no use. I tried killin this thread the other day. I see it's still growing... :roll:
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Killing an eGriz thead is as difficult as killing morning glory in the lawn once it gets going.
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I thought maybe this was an old slang term for another morning phenomenon until I read the rest of the sentence. I think it works either way, somehow.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
kemajic said:
NLGrizFan said:
Bertram said:
Duck's Head Coach, held a press conference today to address VA 's transfer (and other things). He's still gonna be a Duck
http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/report-qb-vernon-adams-plans-being-late-oregon-fall-camp
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It's no use. I tried killin this thread the other day. I see it's still growing... :roll:
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Killing an eGriz thead is as difficult as killing morning glory in the lawn once it gets going.
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I thought maybe this was an old slang term for another morning phenomenon until I read the rest of the sentence. I think it works either way, somehow.
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:clap:
 
I am interested in seeing how he stands up to the competition in the PAC-12. I would like to see him succeed, if for no other reason than an endorsement of the Big Sky conference.
 
kemajic said:
NLGrizFan said:
Bertram said:
Duck's Head Coach, held a press conference today to address VA 's transfer (and other things). He's still gonna be a Duck
http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/report-qb-vernon-adams-plans-being-late-oregon-fall-camp
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It's no use. I tried killin this thread the other day. I see it's still growing... :roll:
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Killing an eGriz thead is as difficult as killing morning glory in the lawn once it gets going.
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Look for "carfentrazone" on the label of weed killer. If it's got it, you'll surely kill whatever it is except your grass.
 
A little fuel for the fire from a ducksattack poster:
"I just heard that Vernon failed his mid term...if so not good!"

http://www.ducksattack.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22411&sid=186456829878fb0a72204c2c43b3ca51&start=15
 
I dunno. 33 doesn't know anything that isn't already known by all but I have seen or heard nothing that says Shoota is 100% good to go. Didn't the coach say he "didn't expect" any issues?
 
kemajic said:
Killing an eGriz thead is as difficult as killing morning glory in the lawn once it gets going.
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If you really want to kill a thread, all you have to do is get both Alpha and PR to do their OK Corral thing. Mods will lock it away. End of thread. The trick is to get them involved at the same time. :lol:
 
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