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Vernon Adams Back?

bigsky33 said:
You can mock me all that you want. Come this fall VA will either be in a EWU uniform or not playing anywhere at all.
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The two OR newspaper articles posted here are more definitive than any of the trolling and fishing on this thread. I could understand the disbelief if they were from the Missoulian....
 
PlayerRep said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Agreed

Gregorek has made Adams what he was
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Haha, real funny. Adams played well against the Griz some, but here's how he did the last game:

182 yards passing. Next lowest game was 298.

5.2 yards per attempt. Lowest of season. Next lowest yards per attempt was 6.3, and that was the only other game under 8.3 yards per attempt.

5 sacks. Only UW was more, at 6. Prior UM game was also 5 sacks.

2 TD's. Tied for lowest of the season.

Ill. St. allowed 425 yards and 9.7 per attempt against EWU in the EWU's last game of season.
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Cherry picking douchebag.

There is a reason you only picked the last game he played coming off an injury. It's ok everyone knows your agenda
 
Bigsky33 just hasn't yet informed Oregon's coach that VA will not be playing Duck football this year, period. Probably just on oversight.
 
Why are so many of you wrapped up in what Vernon Adams is doing? I for one wish him the best of luck at Oregon, the only thing I wish is the Griz would have had one more chance to beat him. Call his performances lucky or just good makes no difference, he beat us every time.
 
reinell30 said:
Why are so many of you wrapped up in what Vernon Adams is doing? I for one wish him the best of luck at Oregon, the only thing I wish is the Griz would have had one more chance to beat him. Call his performances lucky or just good makes no difference, he beat us every time.
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I can't speak for everyone, but I'm excited to see how he does at Oregon. I've always taken an interest in people who take risks to try to better themselves. In this case, it's even more interesting given the way his former team treated him after the announcement, and the fact that they play each other in 2015. Has any QB gone from such a low profile program to such a high profile program in one year?
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
PlayerRep said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Agreed

Gregorek has made Adams what he was
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Haha, real funny. Adams played well against the Griz some, but here's how he did the last game:

182 yards passing. Next lowest game was 298.

5.2 yards per attempt. Lowest of season. Next lowest yards per attempt was 6.3, and that was the only other game under 8.3 yards per attempt.

5 sacks. Only UW was more, at 6. Prior UM game was also 5 sacks.

2 TD's. Tied for lowest of the season.

Ill. St. allowed 425 yards and 9.7 per attempt against EWU in the EWU's last game of season.
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Cherry picking douchebag.

There is a reason you only picked the last game he played coming off an injury. It's ok everyone knows your agenda
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IMO, the Griz just didn't matched up that well against Eastern during the VA years. Whether it was coaching or personnel, Eastern has had the upper hand....
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
PlayerRep said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Agreed

Gregorek has made Adams what he was
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Haha, real funny. Adams played well against the Griz some, but here's how he did the last game:

182 yards passing. Next lowest game was 298.

5.2 yards per attempt. Lowest of season. Next lowest yards per attempt was 6.3, and that was the only other game under 8.3 yards per attempt.

5 sacks. Only UW was more, at 6. Prior UM game was also 5 sacks.

2 TD's. Tied for lowest of the season.

Ill. St. allowed 425 yards and 9.7 per attempt against EWU in the EWU's last game of season.
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Cherry picking douchebag.

There is a reason you only picked the last game he played coming off an injury. It's ok everyone knows your agenda
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Could someone please explain to Alpha that, after acknowledging that VA had played well against the Griz some of the time, I provided stats for the last game UM played against him, which was in the playoffs. It was not the game after VA returned from injury, when he torched us. It was multiple games after he'd returned from his injury. I note that Alpha, like many of you, becomes so blinded with rage upon seeing some of my posts, that he makes stupid and incorrect posts like this.

And just for the record, I picked the last game UM played EWU/VA, to show that, in the 2d time UM played EWU last year, UM handled VA quite well. Perhaps we had learned from our prior mistakes that season.
 
PR, statistically, yes VA has been a great QB. The GRIZ have done a solid job compared to other teams against him though. Alpha feels VA is overrated and is not as good as his stats make him look. I actually feel Alpha has a legitimate point. He has thrown up so many jump balls just to have his WR's bail him out on a questionable decision. Some will argue, it is not a bad decision if his WR ends up with ball. It is hard to argue that as well. However, many coaches would prefer a qb not throw crap like that. He is fortunate to have gotten away with bad decisions in the conference. He will not be as successful doing that at the BCS level or the NFL.

I'd take Armanti Edwards during his college career over Adams at QB. Edwards was actually a pretty disciplined QB and good decision maker. I will pull for Adams to do well at Oregon. Not because of Adams, but because I pull for the BCS teams in the west to win a championship.
 
mtgrizrule said:
PR, statistically, yes VA has been a great QB. The GRIZ have done a solid job compared to other teams against him though. Alpha feels VA is overrated and is not as good as his stats make him look. I actually feel Alpha has a legitimate point. He has thrown up so many jump balls just to have his WR's bail him out on a questionable decision. Some will argue, it is not a bad decision if his WR ends up with ball. It is hard to argue that as well. However, many coaches would prefer a qb not throw crap like that. He is fortunate to have gotten away with bad decisions in the conference. He will not be as successful doing that at the BCS level or the NFL.

I'd take Armanti Edwards during his college career over Adams at QB. Edwards was actually a pretty disciplined QB and good decision maker. I will pull for Adams to do well at Oregon. Not because of Adams, but because I pull for the BCS teams in the west to win a championship.
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This is what Alpha said: "Gregorek has made Adams what he was". That is not accurate, and I certainly don't agree with it. From your post, you don't agree with it either. I countered Alpha's comment, at least indirectly, by providing the stats of the very last game UM had played VA. Gregorak didn't make VA in that game. In fact, in 2014, UM sacked VA 10 times (5 in each game, and the 2d most of any time other than UW). Alpha said I cherry-picked stats from the first game VA returned from injury, but that wasn't accurate.\

As for your post, I used to think that VA was lucky on so many of his passes, like the jump balls, but I changed my mind as time went on--because VA and his receivers consistently caught the ball. If someone is lucky all the time, or almost all the time, then I think they may be more good than lucky. I too might take Edwards over VA. However, VA is very talented, and he could be terrific in the Oregon offense and with their talent. Not having worked out with the team all summer and being late for fall camp, isn't going to help him, though.

As for you comments about the level of competition, how do you explain VA's tremendous stats and results against UW and Oregon St? Truly amazing stats. UW - 475 yards, 7 TD's, no interceptions, and 67.4%. OSU - 411 yards, 4 TD's, no interceptions, 76.7%, and 16 carries for 107 yards and 2 TD's. Personally, I don't think his stats and results against UW and OSU are attributable to luck--and obviously that wasn't against FCS competition. Note the zero interceptions.
 
Skilled quarterbacks and tall athletic receivers are more than lucky at every level of football. The jump ball in the end zone with the right players turns out to be not only a safe play but very successful. VA and his talented receivers had it down to a science.
 
PlayerRep said:
mtgrizrule said:
PR, statistically, yes VA has been a great QB. The GRIZ have done a solid job compared to other teams against him though. Alpha feels VA is overrated and is not as good as his stats make him look. I actually feel Alpha has a legitimate point. He has thrown up so many jump balls just to have his WR's bail him out on a questionable decision. Some will argue, it is not a bad decision if his WR ends up with ball. It is hard to argue that as well. However, many coaches would prefer a qb not throw crap like that. He is fortunate to have gotten away with bad decisions in the conference. He will not be as successful doing that at the BCS level or the NFL.

I'd take Armanti Edwards during his college career over Adams at QB. Edwards was actually a pretty disciplined QB and good decision maker. I will pull for Adams to do well at Oregon. Not because of Adams, but because I pull for the BCS teams in the west to win a championship.
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This is what Alpha said: "Gregorek has made Adams what he was". That is not accurate, and I certainly don't agree with it. From your post, you don't agree with it either. I countered Alpha's comment, at least indirectly, by providing the stats of the very last game UM had played VA. Gregorak didn't make VA in that game. In fact, in 2014, UM sacked VA 10 times (5 in each game, and the 2d most of any time other than UW). Alpha said I cherry-picked stats from the first game VA returned from injury, but that wasn't accurate.\

As for your post, I used to think that VA was lucky on so many of his passes, like the jump balls, but I changed my mind as time went on--because VA and his receivers consistently caught the ball. If someone is lucky all the time, or almost all the time, then I think they may be more good than lucky. I too might take Edwards over VA. However, VA is very talented, and he could be terrific in the Oregon offense and with their talent. Not having worked out with the team all summer and being late for fall camp, isn't going to help him, though.

As for you comments about the level of competition, how do you explain VA's tremendous stats and results against UW and Oregon St? Truly amazing stats. UW - 475 yards, 7 TD's, no interceptions, and 67.4%. OSU - 411 yards, 4 TD's, no interceptions, 76.7%, and 16 carries for 107 yards and 2 TD's. Personally, I don't think his stats and results against UW and OSU are attributable to luck--and obviously that wasn't against FCS competition. Note the zero interceptions.
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TG did commit to try to stop VA and Eastern's vaunted passing game in the playoff matchup. He actually did a decent job but VA and Eastern just adjusted and ran the football. Forte' had a big day gaining 128 yards and VA ran for some. Was that better coaching? Who knows? In addition, Eastern's much maligned D played extremely well in that game too. So did their special teams with the blocked punt. That was the difference. VA did torched the Griz for 400yards during the regular season matchup. Plus Kupp had a punt return TD. IMO, Eastern showed that they were a pretty balanced team last year against the Griz. After all the trash talking between the two fan bases, Eastern had the more complete team. That was obvious....
 
You didn't prove shit, you cherry picked a game that EWU won and Gregorek is 0 and infinite against Adams. VA even says he loves going against TG defenses because they are predictable and very little changes during the game.

If you played the game you sucked at it
 
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