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Two Game Suspension...

EverettGriz said:
HookedonGriz said:
Gametime said:
Too bad they didn’t give Jordan Johnson the same treatment. So if JS gets charged with a serious felony he will be on the field after 2 games. But for JJ he sits out he season on bs charges. Makes sense.

Wrong. He is suspended for violating student code of conduct (fight, house party). If he is then charged with an actual felony or misdemeanor further suspension or dismissal will occur. Right now he hasn't been charged with a thing.

I can't believe this even needs to be pointed out.






Wait. It's f***[*] eGriz. Of course I can. :?
^This
 
Amazing how fast Haslam and Stitt abandon one of their own when no charges have even been filed. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? No family here! Just talk! We need to make a couple changes immediately!!!
 
i_the_sky said:
Amazing how fast Haslam and Stitt abandon one of their own when no charges have even been filed. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? No family here! Just talk! We need to make a couple changes immediately!!!

Your prejudices and bias is showing. Policy was not set by either of them. A group or panel makes the decision based on written policy. It is not in Coach Stitts hands. Educate before you comment to strengthen your point.
 
A huge bummer for sure. Just coming off a 3 game winning streak, seem to be hitting our stride, opened up The Champions Center, Jensen on the Jerry Rice watch list and boom a player finds himself in the news. I’m really not sure what choices Haslem had but damn the timing couldn’t have come at a worst time. As far as Stitt is concerned he’s the head coach and needs to get the team ready with the players he has. Semore the same as well as Shann. This game will be won and lost in the trenches.

Go Griz!
 
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
 
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
Fighting
 
Fahque said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
Fighting

Correct. still broke the student code of conduct and was not representing himself, the football team, or the school to standards
 
Triwest said:
i_the_sky said:
Amazing how fast Haslam and Stitt abandon one of their own when no charges have even been filed. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? No family here! Just talk! We need to make a couple changes immediately!!!

Your prejudices and bias is showing. Policy was not set by either of them. A group or panel makes the decision based on written policy. It is not in Coach Stitts hands. Educate before you comment to strengthen your point.

No...Trolls are just not smart in general
 
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/
 
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/
 
CDAGRIZ said:
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

:lol: :clap:
 
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

Thank goodness you visited our site and provided us with that link. Not sure what we would have done without you as you are only four days behind and 17 thread pages
 
HookedonGriz said:
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

Thank goodness you visited our site and provided us with that link. Not sure what we would have done without you as you are only four days behind and 17 thread pages

Not sure what we would've done without that extra view, though. There are only 247 different voices about it...that 248th...from an opposing fanbase...is the cherry! You should know that. I'm very disappointed in you!
 
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

While I have no idea what actually transpired I could certainly imagine circumstances where striking a person while they are trying to get up would be part of a self defense tactic. Immobilize and contain the threat.

Although it's hard to establish what went down from a brief newspaper article I think it's unfair to assume that striking someone trying to get up could not be an act of self defense.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

You know we give ewoooo graduates a great deal of shit on this board about how damn ignorant they are.








We need to step it up a notch.
 
i_the_sky said:
Amazing how fast Haslam and Stitt abandon one of their own when no charges have even been filed. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? No family here! Just talk! We need to make a couple changes immediately!!!

He is not a family member, and he's not "one of their own." He's not their child, he is a college student-athlete, who has the ability to exercise reason, use discretion and exhibit self-control. He is not innocent, he is guilty of of violating the student conduct code by fighting, by his own admission. He hasn't been abandoned by the team or the athletic department, he has been disciplined appropriately for his infraction.

I swear, i_the_sky, you're the most genuinely, sincerely, cluelessly irrational person I've encountered on this site, and that is saying a helluva lot.
 
ilovethecats said:
CDAGRIZ said:
clawman said:
Gametime said:
Hypothetically, if he doesn’t get charged with a crime because it was determined he was defending himself, if he wasn’t drinking, he committed no other crimes that we know of, what is he being suspended for?
I don't think "it was determined" more like he claimed self defense. Not sure how hitting a guy while he is trying to get up could be self defense.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/oct/23/university-of-montana-football-player-accused-of-a/

:lol: :clap:
All the facts are not out at this time. However, I think you should be open minded enough to consider Strong it him the second time to end the fight. There is a possibility the other guy was getting up to continue.
Anyway, what's up with the targeting penalties that seem to be plaguing the bobcats?
 
Ringneck said:
i_the_sky said:
Amazing how fast Haslam and Stitt abandon one of their own when no charges have even been filed. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? No family here! Just talk! We need to make a couple changes immediately!!!

He is not a family member, and he's not "one of their own." He's not their child, he is a college student-athlete, who has the ability to exercise reason, use discretion and exhibit self-control. He is not innocent, he is guilty of of violating the student conduct code by fighting, by his own admission. He hasn't been abandoned by the team or the athletic department, he has been disciplined appropriately for his infraction.

I swear, i_the_sky, you're the most genuinely, sincerely, cluelessly irrational person I've encountered on this site, and that is saying a helluva lot.

Does the athletic code prohibit fighting? Don't know. Just asking.

I would agree that what has been put out publicly is probably what most would describe as a fight. However, if someone comes after you and you protect yourself, I don't think I would describe that as fighting. It is protecting yourself.
 
My reaction to a two-game suspension now may be an indication that UM thinks that he will not ultimately be charged, or certainly not charged with a felony. Because, if a serious charge was still a good possibility, I would think that they would suspend him indefinitely, to allow to see what the authorities do. It would seem odd to take action now, beyond suspension indefinitely, if they though they might have to reverse and take more action or kick him off the team later.

Of course, I have zero info other than what I have read on egriz, so who knows.

The fact that the WSU guy was released on Tuesday, 3.5 days after he was admitted to the hospital, indicates to me that he wasn't hurt as bad as originally thought. I wonder if the original skull fracture info from the police was even accurate. AZDoc, what do you think?
 
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