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Tres Tinkle

so sad, this thread. here we are with a great homegrown talent, in one of the most wonderful states in the union, where his father played college ball, met his mother and is now the head coach, and all we're doin' is figuring out where we can send him off to. where's the pride? where's the fight? not one voice on here arguing for montana? oh, we're not good enough. we're just little ole montana, the school that couldn't move up to the wac fifteen years ago because our homegrown kids weren't good enough to play at that level (no matter six off one team made it to the nfl.)

texas: home of the outsized ego. montana: home of the great inferiority complex.
 
I think a few things are play here:

First none of the older Tinkle girls stayed home to play. If both girls had decided to play for Robin, we might be singing a different tune about Tres.

Second, Wayne's rise as a coach is only going to increase the exposure for Tres.

If Tres wants to stay at home in Missoula, great for him. If he doesn't and sees scholly offers from schools that Montana kids rarely get offers for, who can blame him?

I don't know how the family dynamic is, but my guess is while some may think Wayne and Tres would be a package deal, I think that is the furthest from the truth.

The other part of the scenario that does make me sad, is that we haven't put forth the effort to lock up Wayne in a way to make it difficult for him to leave. Idaho is in the same situation with state mandated contracts, and they found a way through varioius other methods to make the pay scenario difficult for Pete to leave. Pete is a different cat in that he recognizes what he has in Boise and maybe we have that in Wayne.

This is sort of like brining a knife to a nuclear weapons conflict. Will wayne leave for money? Doubt it. For those who know Wayne, know he won't chase dollars but a program that he can win at. Had way to many conversations about this in football over the years, but we have a coach that we should try our best to get creative to find a way to make it more difficult to leave.

Again I truly believe Wayne is a different breed in the coaching ranks. The type that can succeed in just about every environment. In that case, I think it would be difficult to keep him there for the foreseeable future.
 
citay said:
so sad, this thread. here we are with a great homegrown talent, in one of the most wonderful states in the union, where his father played college ball, met his mother and is now the head coach, and all we're doin' is figuring out where we can send him off to. where's the pride? where's the fight? not one voice on here arguing for montana? oh, we're not good enough. we're just little ole montana, the school that couldn't move up to the wac fifteen years ago because our homegrown kids weren't good enough to play at that level (no matter six off one team made it to the nfl.)

texas: home of the outsized ego. montana: home of the great inferiority complex.
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Hey, Montana is the "land of good intentions."

Anyway, what are you suggesting we do, exactly? Beg Tres to stay? Cry? Sign a petition? For chrissakes, citay, we have our pride!
 
o! yet another awf(ul) post to confront! but he's right. lamentations, fulminations, recriminations--all for naught. tis i, a junk yard dog, braying at the moon.

at history.

we went: from the pacific coast conference (where we didn't belong) to the skyline conference (essentially the mwc, where thanks to one president who decided to demphasize athletics at montana, we couldn't make it), to the big sky conference, where we've dominated. about 15 years ago, we had the chance to get back to the mwc (via the wac), but all of us football fans were so relishing the bully role, we foreswore the opportunity, relating more to poor little idaho than to mighty boise, amid talk our homegrown lads couldn't compete at that level, we didn't have the money, woe is poor little fly-over montana. i was a big advocate at the time of moving up, but gradually got weary of the ceaseless confrontation with mediocrity, to the glee of all the hyper-macho chest-thumpers on the football board. in all this discussion, basketball was never mentioned, unless i brought it up, maybe twice. now we're stuck in football with winning a "national championship" at essentially the pony league level, and in basketball with a conference that is losing national traction with each passing season. oh, we're a "big sky power" alright, until either the men's or women's team steps out of our little bubble, and gets blown to the far side of embarrassment in an ncaa tournament.

now: comes a great local talent, a player who might reverse this trend, and we have nothing to offer (lest begging and petitions) but futile high hopes and a third-rate conference. can't change anything now. tis really the history i lament, and the montana state-of-mind that keeps us stuck at this level.
 
From scout.com article that was just posted, hope I don't get in trouble.

Among the top 5 playersat the "Best of Summer Tourney"

Tres Tinkle, PF, Montana D-1 Ambassadors: The son of Montana head coach Wayne Tinkle, this rising junior is a talented kid who knows how to play. At about 6-foot-6 with very long arms, Tinkle is still growing and if he can add a couple more inches - and maybe regardless - he's going to end up as a high major prospect. The left-handed Tinkle can shoot from three, rebounds and starts the break, has terrific footwork around the basket, has a floater, is strong on the boards and gets a lot of points on the offensive glass. He's a very good prospect who says he wants to go through a legitimate recruiting process.

Jared Samuelson, PF, Montana D-1 Ambassadors: A forward with good size who looks like he's still growing, Samuelson has a lot of confidence in his three-point shot and is a deceptively good ball handler who also made some really nice passes. He missed a floater and hook shot but it's a good sign that he has both in his arsenal. He's about 6-foot-6 now and it's going to be interesting to see what kind of player he is when he hits his final height and physically matures a little.
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Further

Tres Tinkle has an offer from Utah with interest from Oregon State, Boston College, Colorado, Arizona State, Gonzaga, Stanford, Boise State, Montana, Arizona and California.
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and finally

Montana head coach Wayne Tinkle and assistants from California and Northern Colorado watched Tres Tinkle.
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Full article
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glad to see we have "interest" in him. i certainly do. i expect that will grow as he grows and matures into a power forward.

awf: always fun, any weather.
mslact: only bobcat poster in the history of egriz to have a "get out of jail free" card.
 
citay said:
glad to see we have "interest" in him. i certainly do. i expect that will grow as he grows and matures into a power forward.

awf: always fun, any weather.
mslact: only bobcat poster in the history of egriz to have a "get out of jail free" card.
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I did not know Egriz had a Jail.

I will admit though I am surprised how little Buzz the Griz faithful are given Samuelson. If Jarred is anything like his dad (which I think he is) he could be a great prospect. For those young ones out their wondering what type of player his dad, Shawn Samuelson, was think Mathias Ward but, tougher and twice the rebounder.
 
Mslacat said:
citay said:
glad to see we have "interest" in him. i certainly do. i expect that will grow as he grows and matures into a power forward.

awf: always fun, any weather.
mslact: only bobcat poster in the history of egriz to have a "get out of jail free" card.
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I did not know Egriz had a Jail.

I will admit though I am surprised how little Buzz the Griz faithful are given Samuelson. If Jarred is anything like his dad (which I think he is) he could be a great prospect. For those young ones out their wondering what type of player his dad, Shawn Samuelson, was think Mathias Ward but, tougher and twice the rebounder.[/

did not know about samuelson, until you brought him to our attention. i well remember his dad even though i'm one of the young ones out there.

no, not jail. purgatory. maybe that card won't help.
 
Mslacat said:
BTW Last I checked Domako was living here in Missoula. I have been watching the papers every November to see if any of his kids show up on high school rosters.
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he does live in missoula...i play poker with him on occasion at the hilton and slipper....seems like his son is just about HS age, i could be mistaken but i remember him mentioning something like that at the table one night.
 
for anyone who doesn't remember Shawn Samuelson, we got a little lucky snagging him from the cats, but he was a great player and if his son is anything like him, would be a great get.
 
NikeGrizz said:
Now holds offers from : Montana, Boston College, Utah, and USC
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Outside of the GRIZ, BC and Utah would be great. I am not much for USC. Tres playing for LK would the next best thing to playing for his father.

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Montana should be "humming" about retaining 50% and gaining the other 50% of the prize. Sure would be nice to see Tres make the call to stay in Missoula with Dad. Jos asnd Elle didn't have the option to play for Dad when they made their decision. Tres' final decision will be tougher than theirs was.
 
citay said:
so sad, this thread. here we are with a great homegrown talent, in one of the most wonderful states in the union, where his father played college ball, met his mother and is now the head coach, and all we're doin' is figuring out where we can send him off to. where's the pride? where's the fight? not one voice on here arguing for montana? oh, we're not good enough. we're just little ole montana, the school that couldn't move up to the wac fifteen years ago because our homegrown kids weren't good enough to play at that level (no matter six off one team made it to the nfl.)

texas: home of the outsized ego. montana: home of the great inferiority complex.
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You are absolutely right except Montana is not ready to put out the millions of dollars at a time when technology is changing the world and there is so much that is unknown. But, when I r4ead in the newspapers that the University of Montana is slashing an already thin budget, and see schools like Stanford, Gonzaga, USC and others sitting on incredible amounts of money guaranteeing to meet every student's academic aspirations, it is not hard to see why kids from small towns in Montana would choose one of those over what is offered at home and nearby. In so many ways, Montana has always been a "colony' of larger and more forward thinking states. And, I think that is where the "we are inferior"" mentality arises.
 
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... Montana is not ready to put out the millions of dollars at a time when technology is changing the world and there is so much that is unknown. But, when I read in the newspapers that the University of Montana is slashing an already thin budget, and see schools like Stanford, Gonzaga, USC and others sitting on incredible amounts of money guaranteeing to meet every student's academic aspirations, it is not hard to see why kids from small towns in Montana would choose one of those over what is offered at home and nearby. In so many ways, Montana has always been a "colony' of larger and more forward thinking states. And, I think that is where the "we are inferior"" mentality arises.[/quote]

As difficult to digest as your description of Montana's cultural, economic, developmental and educational culture is, LA.... Yup. You must have taken K. Ross Toole's Montana History class as well, because that's been the norm since the Copper Kings' reign.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Thanks. I think there was a MSU player more recent than Domako or Kilborn who was from Glyndon, MN or somewhere in that neck of the woods, but I can't recall his name.

I watched Domako many times. One of the best pure shooters ever. Right up there with Gary Kane. :)
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I bet you're thinking of Nate Holmstadt, who played for MSU from 1995-1999, and had an outstanding career. I'm pretty sure he was from Minnesota, although not sure what specific town. Holmstadt and Danny Sprinkle were freshman on MSU's last BSC title team, in 1995-96. Sprinkle started, and Holmstadt was the 6th man. Those were the "good old days"...when MSU basketball was actually relevant. It's ridiculous that it's been almost 20 years since our last conference title. After Holmstadt and Sprinkle finished their careers in 1999, the wheels started falling off, and things have gradually been going downhill ever since.
 
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