Too Early 2014 Predictions

[poorgriz]

Yes, we'll be better... guaranteed. Bookmarking this thread.

Doubt it. No star qb, no all-conference rb, not much at receiver, too many of weak o-line returning, not much on defense. I'm all for optimism, but you're living in a dream world. I pointed out the Cat's gross over-optimism early in the season last year--as did others--and we were completely right.

Well, for an attorney you forgot to check the facts from last years team. DMac was set to be on course for a great year until SMU, afterwards, even throwing in Dakota, he was never himself and played C-B level football due to lingering issues of health. Regarding Kirk, he too was hampered with injuries that he is still healing from. So, to say that this years team can't outproduce last years is naive.

Will they? That's the fun of it. Who knows...but to down play this years teams chances because of last years performance is goofy at best. We could in fact see better QB play this year over last with the emergence of one of our guys. I think Roderick will emerge as the guy with a stable of good, young and healthy backs behind him not the least of which is Shawn Johnson who I think you remember from last year. I agree the WR's are a big ??? and I think the success of the team will hinge on their emergence.

About the defense, well don't you be worrying about them, they're comin!

that's true, but to say your talent is better going into 2014 compared to going into 2013 isn't true.

Correct... going in, no. What I'm saying is that because we were decimated by injuries in 2013 to several of our start players... we'll end up being better, more productive offensively and defensively in 2014. As for our O line having any issues whatsoever, that is funny that PR even brought that up. Obviously he's never played O Line. This is the biggest, best, and deepest that we've been along the O line in a long, long time. This O Line reminds me of the stellar O Lines the griz used to have.

 

[PlayerRep]

Guarantee??? What are you backing that with ? .500 on the horizon looks more probable. You won't be able to stretch the field this year....start with that problem scat boy... :egriz:

Yes, we'll be better... guaranteed. Bookmarking this thread.

Doubt it. No star qb, no all-conference rb, not much at receiver, too many of weak o-line returning, not much on defense. I'm all for optimism, but you're living in a dream world. I pointed out the Cat's gross over-optimism early in the season last year--as did others--and we were completely right.

Well, for an attorney you forgot to check the facts from last years team. DMac was set to be on course for a great year until SMU, afterwards, even throwing in Dakota, he was never himself and played C-B level football due to lingering issues of health. Regarding Kirk, he too was hampered with injuries that he is still healing from. So, to say that this years team can't outproduce last years is naive.

Will they? That's the fun of it. Who knows...but to down play this years teams chances because of last years performance is goofy at best. We could in fact see better QB play this year over last with the emergence of one of our guys. I think Roderick will emerge as the guy with a stable of good, young and healthy backs behind him not the least of which is Shawn Johnson who I think you remember from last year. I agree the WR's are a big ??? and I think the success of the team will hinge on their emergence.

About the defense, well don't you be worrying about them, they're comin!

My post was made based on your team's returning (lack of) talent--not the performance of last year's team. Nothing in my post indicated that I was basing anything on last year's team or its performance. Learn to read. I was correct last year in my assessment--and none of you Cat posters were--and I assume I'll be proven right again this year.

 

[PlayerRep]

Doubt it. No star qb, no all-conference rb, not much at receiver, too many of weak o-line returning, not much on defense. I'm all for optimism, but you're living in a dream world. I pointed out the Cat's gross over-optimism early in the season last year--as did others--and we were completely right.

Well, for an attorney you forgot to check the facts from last years team. DMac was set to be on course for a great year until SMU, afterwards, even throwing in Dakota, he was never himself and played C-B level football due to lingering issues of health. Regarding Kirk, he too was hampered with injuries that he is still healing from. So, to say that this years team can't outproduce last years is naive.

Will they? That's the fun of it. Who knows...but to down play this years teams chances because of last years performance is goofy at best. We could in fact see better QB play this year over last with the emergence of one of our guys. I think Roderick will emerge as the guy with a stable of good, young and healthy backs behind him not the least of which is Shawn Johnson who I think you remember from last year. I agree the WR's are a big ??? and I think the success of the team will hinge on their emergence.

About the defense, well don't you be worrying about them, they're comin!

that's true, but to say your talent is better going into 2014 compared to going into 2013 isn't true.

Correct... going in, no. What I'm saying is that because we were decimated by injuries in 2013 to several of our start players... we'll end up being better, more productive offensively and defensively in 2014. As for our O line having any issues whatsoever, that is funny that PR even brought that up. Obviously he's never played O Line. This is the biggest, best, and deepest that we've been along the O line in a long, long time. This O Line reminds me of the stellar O Lines the griz used to have.

You return a 3d all-conference guard, and think you are deep at o-line? You are dreaming.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

IMO, an interesting storyline with the Griz-Cat rivalry and the MSU football program has been the quarterback position. Over the last 30-or-so years, I think Travis Lulay was 3 wins & 1-loss versus Montana, DeNarius McGhee was 2 & 2, and Kelly Bradley was 3 &1. Other than with those three quarterbacks, MSU has not garnered many (any?) wins against the Griz in the last ~ 30 years. McGhee got two wins in Missoula, and he will not be easily replaced.

 

[krammer]

Well, for an attorney you forgot to check the facts from last years team. DMac was set to be on course for a great year until SMU, afterwards, even throwing in Dakota, he was never himself and played C-B level football due to lingering issues of health. Regarding Kirk, he too was hampered with injuries that he is still healing from. So, to say that this years team can't outproduce last years is naive.

Will they? That's the fun of it. Who knows...but to down play this years teams chances because of last years performance is goofy at best. We could in fact see better QB play this year over last with the emergence of one of our guys. I think Roderick will emerge as the guy with a stable of good, young and healthy backs behind him not the least of which is Shawn Johnson who I think you remember from last year. I agree the WR's are a big ??? and I think the success of the team will hinge on their emergence.

About the defense, well don't you be worrying about them, they're comin!

that's true, but to say your talent is better going into 2014 compared to going into 2013 isn't true.

Correct... going in, no. What I'm saying is that because we were decimated by injuries in 2013 to several of our start players... we'll end up being better, more productive offensively and defensively in 2014. As for our O line having any issues whatsoever, that is funny that PR even brought that up. Obviously he's never played O Line. This is the biggest, best, and deepest that we've been along the O line in a long, long time. This O Line reminds me of the stellar O Lines the griz used to have.

You return a 3d all-conference guard, and think you are deep at o-line? You are dreaming.

player rep wins this little difference of opinion...I remember what he said last year and I believe he will be correct in his assumptions this coming year with what the cats have returning...

 

[poorgriz]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

 

[Hammer]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

a .500 club.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

a .500 club.

And another asswhooping put on them by the Griz. :thumb:

 

[poorgriz]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

a .500 club.

Ha Ha... I think you might be thinking about the griz with that prediction... :lol:

 

[Catsrback76]

that's true, but to say your talent is better going into 2014 compared to going into 2013 isn't true.

Correct... going in, no. What I'm saying is that because we were decimated by injuries in 2013 to several of our start players... we'll end up being better, more productive offensively and defensively in 2014. As for our O line having any issues whatsoever, that is funny that PR even brought that up. Obviously he's never played O Line. This is the biggest, best, and deepest that we've been along the O line in a long, long time. This O Line reminds me of the stellar O Lines the griz used to have.

You return a 3d all-conference guard, and think you are deep at o-line? You are dreaming.

player rep wins this little difference of opinion...I remember what he said last year and I believe he will be correct in his assumptions this coming year with what the cats have returning...

Maybe yes and maybe no! The sum is always greater than the parts and it is entirely possible that we might be putting a team on the field this year that beats last years team in terms of wins. I happen to think that having another year with the OC in place, a healthy QB (albeit a new one), a healthy stable of RB's and another year of growth and experience at the O line...
brings more wins than last year. Conference title? probably not, 500 team... probably not either! Better! :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

No, everyone doesn't know that--because it's not true. First, your season was not "ruined". It was a credible season. It was impacted significantly by the big fade at the end of the season, and some poor play early in the season. It was not "a few plays". It was clear, to objective observers early in the season, that MSU didn't have the horsepower and depth to be one of the top several teams in the conference. Injuries had some impact, just like they do for virtually all teams, but McGhee was not playing well even early in the seasons--and MSU showed that it didn't have the depth to have enough players to fill the inevitable gaps.

Many of the Cat posters on egriz were living in a dream world--from the get-go. You certainly were and are one of them. Not all Cat fans are like that. Many are much more objective and cautious. More optimistic in recent years, but still cautious. "Guarantees" like the ones you purport to make, are a sure sign of a troll and/or someone who doesn't understand the game.

 

[Bear Axed]

Griz will end with a 14-2 season

Kittens end 6-6

Ron Ash has been recruiting injury prone players since before he came to "state"

They get injured in spring ball, practice injured in the fall and end their careers injured.

It's always the same story, year after year. The kittens always blame the convenient injury excuse. It's either lack of proper conditioning or injury prone players or both?
But, it's an every year situation in blowsman.

 

[Catsrback76]

Griz will end with a 14-2 season

Kittens end 6-6

Ron Ash has been recruiting injury prone players since before he came to "state"

They get injured in spring ball, practice injured in the fall and end their careers injured.

It's always the same story, year after year. The kittens always blame the convenient injury excuse. It's either lack of proper conditioning or injury prone players or both?
But, it's an every year situation in blowsman.

Oh Fun, we got the Bear Ass out of hibernation! :clap:

 

[Big G]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

 

[GrizLA]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

Well, I love the optimism but UM still has the same coaching staff....

 

[AZGrizFan]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

Do you think the Griz D will be better or worse than this year? Because several teams made us look comical last year....(EWU, Sac State, CCU come immediately to mind).

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

Well, I love the optimism but UM still has the same coaching staff....

And are the Griz beating Wyo or NDSU?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

Well, I love the optimism but UM still has the same coaching staff....

And are the Griz beating Wyo or NDSU?

Or EWU?

 

[Hammer]

Pretty sure the Griz can run the table this year in the big sky. Bobcats lost the heart of their program and some skill players thay will not be able to replace. Eastern lost a lot of ol and a few on defense so they won't be as good as last year either, it is wide open and we have a skilled senior QB with a lot to prove. If the Griz open up the offense there is nobody in the country that can stop them at our level. My best guess is we go 11-1 and a deep run into the playoffs.

Well, I love the optimism but UM still has the same coaching staff....

Not completely.

 

[poorgriz]

Well I don't remember what he said last year... But once again, everyone knows that our entire season was ruined by a few plays. So that's in the past... What are your predictions for the Cats in 2014?

No, everyone doesn't know that--because it's not true. First, your season was not "ruined". It was a credible season. It was impacted significantly by the big fade at the end of the season, and some poor play early in the season. It was not "a few plays". It was clear, to objective observers early in the season, that MSU didn't have the horsepower and depth to be one of the top several teams in the conference. Injuries had some impact, just like they do for virtually all teams, but McGhee was not playing well even early in the seasons--and MSU showed that it didn't have the depth to have enough players to fill the inevitable gaps.

Many of the Cat posters on egriz were living in a dream world--from the get-go. You certainly were and are one of them. Not all Cat fans are like that. Many are much more objective and cautious. More optimistic in recent years, but still cautious. "Guarantees" like the ones you purport to make, are a sure sign of a troll and/or someone who doesn't understand the game.

Ha ha... well that's a great story, but we'll see how it plays out. Yes, our season was ruined, a huge disappointment, and not really expected by anyone other than hopeful griz fans. Until last year, Ash had brought this program along and built championship teams, each year exceeding the prior year's win total. Three years in a row winning or tying for the Big Sky title. I do think it's funny when people who don't "understand the game" see that the Bobcats lose McGhee and assume we'll be a .500 team. If you don't think the 2014 Bobcats will be in the hunt for the Big Sky title... you are going to be very disappointed.