Tim Parks & Andrew Badger

[EverettGriz]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

 

[bigsky33]

I don't think Cat fans are getting enjoyment out of this. That store clerk came within a thread of getting killed. I think everyone in this State would like this kind of crap to stop. It reflects bad on everyone. There is not even a thread about this on BN. It's a terible situation and these guys should get many years in Deer Lodge.

 

[tnt]

BW isn't taking any crap today. First he takes down a former offensive coordinator thinly vailed as a new e-griz poster and then goes toe-to-toe with the fourth estate. How do you sell houses with that kind of schedule?

I don't know how he does it either, but BOTH were very well done.

 

[bigkid]

I don't think Cat fans are getting enjoyment out of this. That store clerk came within a thread of getting killed. I think everyone in this State would like this kind of crap to stop. It reflects bad on everyone. There is not even a thread about this on BN. It's a terible situation and these guys should get many years in Deer Lodge.

:clap: :clap:

 

[GrizPony]

Tim Parks just posted that all charges against him were dropped. Lets rush to judgment.

 

[ATLCAT]

In the thread about JJ wanting to come back, it was stated that his desire to come back is fueled by his desire to compete with his brotherhood, because once you're a griz, you're always a griz. Are these same standards applied to Parks and Badger?
The Cats were crucified and rightfully so for Gatewood. What happens next at um? Delaney won't and shouldn't lose his job, but what steps can be taken to prevent or reduce the risk of further fuel being thrown on the current dumpster fire in Missoula?

 

[bearly visible]

I wonder how long a school can be held accountable for the actions of former students (including former athletes)? I know it is in vogue to bash rival schools for this but seriously what is the statute of limitations? 5, 10, 20 years, when? Hindsight is 20/20 and shows that many, many people should never have walked the campus let alone wear an athletic jersey but how can anyone know how anyone else is going to turn out? You deal with what you have at the moment with your best gut instinct then it is up to the individual to have a clue. We seem have abdicated personal responsibility and want to blame anyone and everyone else for personal failures. Sure, it was a mistake letting these idiots anywhere near the U of M but now they are grown-ups and are solely responsible for their own behavior. Try 'em and if convicted lock 'em up and move on. I can't imagine the value of trying to blame anyone else for the road that they have chosen.

Yeah, these kids were stellar student-athletes when the payed, but suddenly went to the dark side after they "graduated". You recruit thugs, you get thugs. Nobody wants to admit it, but Hauck is the reason for all of the sh_t we are going through now. It started with his recruits, and still haunts us today.

 

[bearly visible]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

Please. If you think that a newspaper is not gonna feature Griz football players above regular citizens, then you are clueless. I guess the media should not have made a big deal over Jerry Sandusky either. If he had been a regular citizen instead of a football coach, you would have never heard anything about that case.

 

[uofmman1122]

In the thread about JJ wanting to come back, it was stated that his desire to come back is fueled by his desire to compete with his brotherhood, because once you're a griz, you're always a griz. Are these same standards applied to Parks and Badger?
The Cats were crucified and rightfully so for Gatewood. What happens next at um? Delaney won't and shouldn't lose his job, but what steps can be taken to prevent or reduce the risk of further fuel being thrown on the current dumpster fire in Missoula?

Unfortunately, we have zero control over what ex-players do, and anyone still giving MSU shit for Gatewood et. al. should stfu.

The plan going forward is to get the best recruits possible, but you're never going to be able to stop it.

Agreed about Hauck recruiting some bad apples. Every program gets them, but our numbers seem to have exploded since he got here. At some point you have to throw away the bad luck excuse.

 

[EverettGriz]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

Please. If you think that a newspaper is not gonna feature Griz football players above regular citizens, then you are clueless. I guess the media should not have made a big deal over Jerry Sandusky either. If he had been a regular citizen instead of a football coach, you would have never heard anything about that case.

I'm not saying it isn't newsworthy that they were Griz 6 years ago. I think it's JUST as newsworthy (if not MORE so) that one of those charged was a Western player as recently as 2011. Where is the mention of that? Anyone can clearly see the Missoulian/gwen has a bias against the Griz program. It's okay to admit it.

 

[bearly visible]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

Please. If you think that a newspaper is not gonna feature Griz football players above regular citizens, then you are clueless. I guess the media should not have made a big deal over Jerry Sandusky either. If he had been a regular citizen instead of a football coach, you would have never heard anything about that case.

I'm not saying it isn't newsworthy that they were Griz 6 years ago. I think it's JUST as newsworthy (if not MORE so) that one of those charged was a Western player as recently as 2011. Where is the mention of that?

Hoe DARE our local newspaper expose our criminal athletes without giving equal time to other school's criminal athletes! Bastards!

 

[EverettGriz]

:roll:

:msugrad:

 

[Grisly Fan]

I wonder how long a school can be held accountable for the actions of former students (including former athletes)? I know it is in vogue to bash rival schools for this but seriously what is the statute of limitations? 5, 10, 20 years, when? Hindsight is 20/20 and shows that many, many people should never have walked the campus let alone wear an athletic jersey but how can anyone know how anyone else is going to turn out? You deal with what you have at the moment with your best gut instinct then it is up to the individual to have a clue. We seem have abdicated personal responsibility and want to blame anyone and everyone else for personal failures. Sure, it was a mistake letting these idiots anywhere near the U of M but now they are grown-ups and are solely responsible for their own behavior. Try 'em and if convicted lock 'em up and move on. I can't imagine the value of trying to blame anyone else for the road that they have chosen.

Yeah, these kids were stellar student-athletes when the payed, but suddenly went to the dark side after they "graduated". You recruit thugs, you get thugs. Nobody wants to admit it, but Hauck is the reason for all of the sh_t we are going through now. It started with his recruits, and still haunts us today.

So apparently you are into the whole witch hunt thing. Obviously you don't think that they came to the U of M as fine upstanding citizens and were corrupted (now THAT would be a hell of a story) but came that way. So why don't you blame the high school they came from? Maybe the grade school or pre-school? Surely someone along the way failed to do what needed to be done! Who was it and why did they let the problem progress to Montana?

I'll help you with the answer: Screw all all that crap. They came and left and committed crimes. Its all on them. Sure the U of M needs to try to not bring such individuals into the school but unless you can prove that the people who recruited them knew that they were going to commit these kinds of crimes then take you holier than though ex post facto brilliance and shove it.

 

[PTGrizzly]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

Please. If you think that a newspaper is not gonna feature Griz football players above regular citizens, then you are clueless. I guess the media should not have made a big deal over Jerry Sandusky either. If he had been a regular citizen instead of a football coach, you would have never heard anything about that case.

I'm not saying it isn't newsworthy that they were Griz 6 years ago. I think it's JUST as newsworthy (if not MORE so) that one of those charged was a Western player as recently as 2011. Where is the mention of that? Anyone can clearly see the Missoulian/gwen has a bias against the Griz program. It's okay to admit it.

What do you think more people are going to read about, former-Griz players getting arrested, or a former Western player getting arrested? It's all about what people want to read. Is it a bias against the Griz? No. It's a bias towards what will sell.

 

[bearly visible]

It is telling that these two clowns are CURRENT members of the Missoula Phoenix, and that another of the charged is a former player at Western, but that the headline and half the Missoulian story is devoted to the fact that two of the charged are former Griz, while there is absolutely no mention of the other connections.

Please. If you think that a newspaper is not gonna feature Griz football players above regular citizens, then you are clueless. I guess the media should not have made a big deal over Jerry Sandusky either. If he had been a regular citizen instead of a football coach, you would have never heard anything about that case.

I'm not saying it isn't newsworthy that they were Griz 6 years ago. I think it's JUST as newsworthy (if not MORE so) that one of those charged was a Western player as recently as 2011. Where is the mention of that? Anyone can clearly see the Missoulian/gwen has a bias against the Griz program. It's okay to admit it.

What do you think more people are going to read about, former-Griz players getting arrested, or a former Western player getting arrested? It's all about what people want to read. Is it a bias against the Griz? No. It's a bias towards what will sell.

+1

 

[statler & waldorf]

Isn't it about time to banish Tim Parks from this town.. that douchebag has been in trouble since the moment he came to town.

Banish him where...Oh!...Deer Lodge! A perfect fit. They might just be able to field a "Longest Yard" team! And with a lot of Montana 'related' talent.

 

[bearly visible]

I wonder how long a school can be held accountable for the actions of former students (including former athletes)? I know it is in vogue to bash rival schools for this but seriously what is the statute of limitations? 5, 10, 20 years, when? Hindsight is 20/20 and shows that many, many people should never have walked the campus let alone wear an athletic jersey but how can anyone know how anyone else is going to turn out? You deal with what you have at the moment with your best gut instinct then it is up to the individual to have a clue. We seem have abdicated personal responsibility and want to blame anyone and everyone else for personal failures. Sure, it was a mistake letting these idiots anywhere near the U of M but now they are grown-ups and are solely responsible for their own behavior. Try 'em and if convicted lock 'em up and move on. I can't imagine the value of trying to blame anyone else for the road that they have chosen.

Yeah, these kids were stellar student-athletes when the payed, but suddenly went to the dark side after they "graduated". You recruit thugs, you get thugs. Nobody wants to admit it, but Hauck is the reason for all of the sh_t we are going through now. It started with his recruits, and still haunts us today.

So apparently you are into the whole witch hunt thing. Obviously you don't think that they came to the U of M as fine upstanding citizens and were corrupted (now THAT would be a hell of a story) but came that way. So why don't you blame the high school they came from? Maybe the grade school or pre-school? Surely someone along the way failed to do what needed to be done! Who was it and why did they let the problem progress to Montana?

I'll help you with the answer: Screw all all that crap. They came and left and committed crimes. Its all on them. Sure the U of M needs to try to not bring such individuals into the school but unless you can prove that the people who recruited them knew that they were going to commit these kinds of crimes then take you holier than though ex post facto brilliance and shove it.

Your post is pathetic. These kids were trouble when Hauck recruited them. I know for a fact that Parks had multiple arrests as a juvenile. Hauck did not care about a kid's past as long as he could play football at a high level.

 

[GrizPony]

I wonder how long a school can be held accountable for the actions of former students (including former athletes)? I know it is in vogue to bash rival schools for this but seriously what is the statute of limitations? 5, 10, 20 years, when? Hindsight is 20/20 and shows that many, many people should never have walked the campus let alone wear an athletic jersey but how can anyone know how anyone else is going to turn out? You deal with what you have at the moment with your best gut instinct then it is up to the individual to have a clue. We seem have abdicated personal responsibility and want to blame anyone and everyone else for personal failures. Sure, it was a mistake letting these idiots anywhere near the U of M but now they are grown-ups and are solely responsible for their own behavior. Try 'em and if convicted lock 'em up and move on. I can't imagine the value of trying to blame anyone else for the road that they have chosen.

Yeah, these kids were stellar student-athletes when the payed, but suddenly went to the dark side after they "graduated". You recruit thugs, you get thugs. Nobody wants to admit it, but Hauck is the reason for all of the sh_t we are going through now. It started with his recruits, and still haunts us today.

So apparently you are into the whole witch hunt thing. Obviously you don't think that they came to the U of M as fine upstanding citizens and were corrupted (now THAT would be a hell of a story) but came that way. So why don't you blame the high school they came from? Maybe the grade school or pre-school? Surely someone along the way failed to do what needed to be done! Who was it and why did they let the problem progress to Montana?

I'll help you with the answer: Screw all all that crap. They came and left and committed crimes. Its all on them. Sure the U of M needs to try to not bring such individuals into the school but unless you can prove that the people who recruited them knew that they were going to commit these kinds of crimes then take you holier than though ex post facto brilliance and shove it.

Your post is pathetic. These kids were trouble when Hauck recruited them. I know for a fact that Parks had multiple arrests as a juvenile. Hauck did not care about a kid's past as long as he could play football at a high level.

As a former student complaint officer for ASUM for three years, I know for a fact that thousands of UM students had multiple arrests as juveniles, were accepted at UM, and some committed crimes while here. Should they have fired the Dean of Admissions? Your intelligence is "barely visible" but your agenda is transparent. Just shut up and put personal responsibility where it should be, on the individual. :roll:

 

[Umista]

More bull sh1t on this topic than when msu lost their last game.

Growler thinks the sixth man is a girl. She may even be on a team of sorts. Now that is a lota bull!

 

[getgrizzy]

I'm not saying it isn't newsworthy that they were Griz 6 years ago.

even if you were talking only about parks (you weren't) his days were over after the 2007 season (dec. 2007) so that's barely over five years ago. badger last played in 2011, which is barely more than one year ago.

it was sure newsworthy for the media and a lot of our fans when m.s.u. had former players, some that were only there a year, get in trouble. in fact, some of our fans them still bring it up six years after the fact. i won't feel sorry for anyone if they pile it on about this.

this is friggin' horrible! beating a guy with an aluminum baseball bat that just gave him a free tea, because he didn't have any money. that's just sick. i can't believe we actually had players on our team capable of doing something like this even if they didn't play in the last 20 years.