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This just in...JJ's Back!

RobGriz said:
Grizbacker1 said:
RobGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
If it's just a "paperwork formality", why did you even bring this up and say that he had to "petition" the ncaa? See your quote below:

"SO JJ will have to petition the ncaa for a redshirt for last year"
WTF do you care what I do? Someone asked a question and I answered. Like I said earlier, if you want to talk to me in person about it I'm game.

FFS another internet tough guy who goes to paradise falls and drinks all afternoon. you must be about the same level of itellect and bruce danielson, geez, what a loser
I'm 43 and retired so if I want to go to PF all afternoon I can. And it's intellect, Einstein.

it was a test, apparently you are only blowing .06 right now. i love people who only have spelling police as a defense, what a pity
 
Glad to hear he's back on the team. I understand that the coaching staff will declare the competition for starting QB as "open," but I am pretty confident that Johnson will win the job. And that being said, I just made my plans to come to Missoula for the App State game. (Since only a couple posters on here know me personally, I should buy some Mountaineer gear and sport it around town so I can drink for free, but likely won't do it.) Anyhow, I just want to say that regardless of how his first game back turns out, I'll stand and cheer for him. Of course I'd prefer something like 25 -32, 320 yards, 4 TD passes and a rushing touchdown too, but even if he has an off game, I'll be on the welcome back wagon.
 
Welcome back Jordan Johnson wow! that took some courage on his part. It would have been very easy to walk away from this whole thing and he chose the hard path. I hope Montana Grizzly fans will support Jordan Johnson like no other Grizzly has ever been supported after the railroad job he has been through. Well done Jordan Johnson, well done, a man stays and faces his problems head on and that's what he did. I can't wait to yell my guts out for this kid and this team next season. Big Sky Conference watch out there is an inspired Montana Grizzly football team in Missoula with a fan base to match em. GO GRIZ!
 
grizpsych said:
To try and clear this up. You don't petition the NCAA for a "redshirt". There are no papers to fill out. The NCAA Bylaw for Division I student athletes simply states that you have five consecutive years to play four years of your sport. Thus, as far as the NCAA is concerned, JJ has used up three of his five years. So, JJ has two years of eligibility left.

Notes

1) The eligibility clock continued to run out when he was not enrolled in classes.

2) It may be possible to petition the NCAA to roll back his eligibility clock one year using the following argument: JJ was not able to play during the 2012 season because of a situation out of his control (being accused of rape). Importantly, the NCAA will have to agree that his not playing in 2012 was out of his control for him to get this year back.

3) If he does get a year back, he will have three years to play two seasons. So regardless, he will play two more seasons.

4) The only reason to petition the NCAA to get back one year of eligibility would be to ensure that if he got injured for one season he could still play two more seasons.

One small point. Johnson was always in school, so your item 1 is not relevant for him. Heard he had a 4 point in the fall.
 
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First off -- Welcome back Jordan Johnson! We missed you!

Now for the inevitable dose of reality. While this is great news, it by no means indicates that the team will have another 11-3 campaign like they did two years ago.

Does this help its chances to go 11-3 or better? Absolutely!

But the reality is that last year's team had a significant number of problems that had nothing to do with the quarterback. Virtually every unit on the team last year had its inconsistencies, with the possible exception of the linebackers. While I welcome Jordan Johnson back and applaud the University for moving so quickly to reinstate him I don't want to forget that this team will have alot of work to do to get back to where we are all used to seeing it.

I don't mean to be a downer here but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that Jordan is just one piece in a puzzle that was missing a helluva lot of pieces last year. Admittedly he is a cornerpiece, but just one piece nonetheless.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
First off -- Welcome back Jordan Johnson! We missed you!

Now for the inevitable dose of reality. While this is great news, it by no means indicates that the team will have another 11-3 campaign like they did two years ago.

Does this help its chances to go 11-3 or better? Absolutely!

But the reality is that last year's team had a significant number of problems that had nothing to do with the quarterback. Virtually every unit on the team last year had its inconsistencies, with the possible exception of the linebackers. While I welcome Jordan Johnson back and applaud the University for moving so quickly to reinstate him I don't want to forget that this team will have alot of work to do to get back to where we are all used to seeing it.

I don't mean to be a downer here but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that Jordan is just one piece in a puzzle that was missing a helluva lot of pieces last year. Admittedly he is a cornerpiece, but just one piece nonetheless.

We were a QB away from a win in many games. Name one game you think we would have lost even with JJ at QB? I can't think of one!
 
Gaeilge1 said:
First off -- Welcome back Jordan Johnson! We missed you!

Now for the inevitable dose of reality. While this is great news, it by no means indicates that the team will have another 11-3 campaign like they did two years ago.

Does this help its chances to go 11-3 or better? Absolutely!

But the reality is that last year's team had a significant number of problems that had nothing to do with the quarterback. Virtually every unit on the team last year had its inconsistencies, with the possible exception of the linebackers. While I welcome Jordan Johnson back and applaud the University for moving so quickly to reinstate him I don't want to forget that this team will have alot of work to do to get back to where we are all used to seeing it.

I don't mean to be a downer here but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that Jordan is just one piece in a puzzle that was missing a helluva lot of pieces last year. Admittedly he is a cornerpiece, but just one piece nonetheless.


Disagree

Bad QB play directly effects the entire team and there is ZERO ZIP NOTTA comparison between JJ and Tmac....or SSH
 
Hammer said:
Gaeilge1 said:
First off -- Welcome back Jordan Johnson! We missed you!

Now for the inevitable dose of reality. While this is great news, it by no means indicates that the team will have another 11-3 campaign like they did two years ago.

Does this help its chances to go 11-3 or better? Absolutely!

But the reality is that last year's team had a significant number of problems that had nothing to do with the quarterback. Virtually every unit on the team last year had its inconsistencies, with the possible exception of the linebackers. While I welcome Jordan Johnson back and applaud the University for moving so quickly to reinstate him I don't want to forget that this team will have alot of work to do to get back to where we are all used to seeing it.

I don't mean to be a downer here but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that Jordan is just one piece in a puzzle that was missing a helluva lot of pieces last year. Admittedly he is a cornerpiece, but just one piece nonetheless.

We were a QB away from a win in many games. Name one game you think we would have lost even with JJ at QB? I can't think of one!


You are both right...some major problems with the team, starting and ending with the head coach and some of the schemes.
All games were close, and JJ may have been enough to overcome the losses.
 
pussycatkillerz said:
Gaeilge1 said:
First off -- Welcome back Jordan Johnson! We missed you!

Now for the inevitable dose of reality. While this is great news, it by no means indicates that the team will have another 11-3 campaign like they did two years ago.

Does this help its chances to go 11-3 or better? Absolutely!

But the reality is that last year's team had a significant number of problems that had nothing to do with the quarterback. Virtually every unit on the team last year had its inconsistencies, with the possible exception of the linebackers. While I welcome Jordan Johnson back and applaud the University for moving so quickly to reinstate him I don't want to forget that this team will have alot of work to do to get back to where we are all used to seeing it.

I don't mean to be a downer here but I don't want to lose sight of the fact that Jordan is just one piece in a puzzle that was missing a helluva lot of pieces last year. Admittedly he is a cornerpiece, but just one piece nonetheless.


Disagree

Bad QB play directly effects the entire team and there is ZERO ZIP NOTTA comparison between JJ and Tmac....or SSH
True. But unless we shore up the secondary it will still be rough.
 
The North Dakota game for one. I doubt even JJ would be able to overcome a secondary that gave up 600 yards through the air. Our offense actually played pretty well in that game.

I also question whether JJ would have been able to save the SUU game. When you give up 10 points with ludicrous special teams play it tends to derail the whole team.

Finally, there was the EWU game. Again the offense played well enough to win and special teams did not get it done.

I disagree that qb play was the reason for 6 losses last year. I'll give you 3 but not 6.
 
NikeGrizz said:
Great Falls news...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyGRey2dckM[/youtube]
Reduction of charges? There was no reduction...he was found not guilty.
 
Gaeilge1 said:
The North Dakota game for one. I doubt even JJ would be able to overcome a secondary that gave up 600 yards through the air. Our offense actually played pretty well in that game.

I also question whether JJ would have been able to save the SUU game. When you give up 10 points with ludicrous special teams play it tends to derail the whole team.

Finally, there was the EWU game. Again the offense played well enough to win and special teams did not get it done.

I disagree that qb play was the reason for 6 losses last year. I'll give you 3 but not 6.

All of the losses were winnable with JJ at qb. Instead of finding a way to lose, the team would have had more offense, play-making ability, confidence, and found a way to win.

In the ND game, UM lost by 6 points, scoring no points and getting 88 yards in 6 drives, in the last 21 minutes of the game. JJ would have been good for some points, more offense, and would have kept ND's offense off the field more. In those other games, UM would likely have been further ahead, and the poor play you mentioned wouldn't have mattered.
 
PlayerRep said:
Gaeilge1 said:
The North Dakota game for one. I doubt even JJ would be able to overcome a secondary that gave up 600 yards through the air. Our offense actually played pretty well in that game.

I also question whether JJ would have been able to save the SUU game. When you give up 10 points with ludicrous special teams play it tends to derail the whole team.

Finally, there was the EWU game. Again the offense played well enough to win and special teams did not get it done.

I disagree that qb play was the reason for 6 losses last year. I'll give you 3 but not 6.

All of the losses were winnable with JJ at qb. Instead of finding a way to lose, the team would have had more offense, play-making ability, confidence, and found a way to win.

In the ND game, UM lost by 6 points, scoring no points and getting 88 yards in 6 drives, in the last 21 minutes of the game. JJ would have been good for some points, more offense, and would have kept ND's offense off the field more. In those other games, UM would likely have been further ahead, and the poor play you mentioned wouldn't have mattered.

Wondering if you can prove this hypothesis of yours?
 
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
Gaeilge1 said:
The North Dakota game for one. I doubt even JJ would be able to overcome a secondary that gave up 600 yards through the air. Our offense actually played pretty well in that game.

I also question whether JJ would have been able to save the SUU game. When you give up 10 points with ludicrous special teams play it tends to derail the whole team.

Finally, there was the EWU game. Again the offense played well enough to win and special teams did not get it done.

I disagree that qb play was the reason for 6 losses last year. I'll give you 3 but not 6.

All of the losses were winnable with JJ at qb. Instead of finding a way to lose, the team would have had more offense, play-making ability, confidence, and found a way to win.

In the ND game, UM lost by 6 points, scoring no points and getting 88 yards in 6 drives, in the last 21 minutes of the game. JJ would have been good for some points, more offense, and would have kept ND's offense off the field more. In those other games, UM would likely have been further ahead, and the poor play you mentioned wouldn't have mattered.

Wondering if you can prove this hypothesis of yours?

Already proved. All of the coaches agree.
 
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