Strong

[BadlandsGrizFan]

At this point all we know is something serious happened. He admitted to chasing the dude down and whooping his ass....

It doesnt matter if the kid deserved it....it doesnt matter what the court says..or who can prove what...

At this point all that matters is that Mr. Strong put himself in a stupid situation...and it has now cost him and his teammates....

Would I like to have him on the team still yes..absolutely

If I'm Stitt I'm kicking him off the team..and saying sorry kid but you did this yourself..best of luck.

Play stupid fvcking games..win stupid fvcking prizes.

I agree Strong has a problem, but he did not admit to those things. He certainly didn't admit to chasing the guy down. He said he calmed down and then saw that guy as he was going back to the party. He didn't say he whooped the guy. He admitted that he hit him twice.

I would honestly be pissed that he was even at a house party....

Almost every other house party I've ever been in while I was in college had a fight go down.

Its just the scenario...biggest part of the season ahead....just dont go man, wait a couple months till the season is done, than have your fun.

It could be anything...maybe cops show up and find drugs at the house...you didnt do them, not yours, but who knows how it will play out. Just DONT BE IN THAT SCENARIO RIGHT NOW!!!!

 

[PlayerRep]

At this point all we know is something serious happened. He admitted to chasing the dude down and whooping his ass....

It doesnt matter if the kid deserved it....it doesnt matter what the court says..or who can prove what...

At this point all that matters is that Mr. Strong put himself in a stupid situation...and it has now cost him and his teammates....

Would I like to have him on the team still yes..absolutely

If I'm Stitt I'm kicking him off the team..and saying sorry kid but you did this yourself..best of luck.

Play stupid fvcking games..win stupid fvcking prizes.

I agree Strong has a problem, but he did not admit to those things. He certainly didn't admit to chasing the guy down. He said he calmed down and then saw that guy as he was going back to the party. He didn't say he whooped the guy. He admitted that he hit him twice.

I would honestly be pissed that he was even at a house party....

Almost every other house party I've ever been in while I was in college had a fight go down.

Its just the scenario...biggest part of the season ahead....just dont go man, wait a couple months till the season is done, than have your fun.

It could be anything...maybe cops show up and find drugs at the house...you didnt do them, not yours, but who knows how it will play out. Just DONT BE IN THAT SCENARIO RIGHT NOW!!!!

You are naive. Most college kids including players go to house parties every weekend. Especially players when they are supposed to stay out of the bars during season. I have been to a few thousand house parties, and probably seen only a half dozen fights.

 

[HookedonGriz]

At this point all we know is something serious happened. He admitted to chasing the dude down and whooping his ass....

It doesnt matter if the kid deserved it....it doesnt matter what the court says..or who can prove what...

At this point all that matters is that Mr. Strong put himself in a stupid situation...and it has now cost him and his teammates....

Would I like to have him on the team still yes..absolutely

If I'm Stitt I'm kicking him off the team..and saying sorry kid but you did this yourself..best of luck.

Play stupid fvcking games..win stupid fvcking prizes.

I agree Strong has a problem, but he did not admit to those things. He certainly didn't admit to chasing the guy down. He said he calmed down and then saw that guy as he was going back to the party. He didn't say he whooped the guy. He admitted that he hit him twice.

Something that is pretty interesting in all of this is that Strong's account doesn't really differ greatly from what might be biased witness accounts coming from WSU (bias meaning kids that knew the other party).

- Both witnesses and Strong said the other party either punched or had Strong in a head lock
- both witnesses and Strong said he chased the other party out the door
- both the witnesses and Strong said he punched the other party twice, once while standing and once while he was trying to get back up

I would think if Strong thought he was screwed or in major trouble, his own story of the events would differ a great deal from other witness testimony, but it really didn't.

Where there are key differences, it sounds like some variations even amongst the witnesses:

- one said multiple people beat the other party
- one said just Strong beat up the other party
- one said they chased the other party for blocks when he then put his hands up and the fight ensued
- Strong himself adjusts to chasing him initially to fight but then started to return to residence when they crossed paths again and the other party wanted to fight
- one said it was a cousin of Marcus Strong
- one said they were Montana St football players

So I guess one has to question some of these variations and wonder which is true. Also interesting in this is Strong not being intoxicated. I would think that would help his cause. I'm not sure what will come from all of it but those are just some interesting observations. He didn't seem to be trying to lie or cover his ass IMO.

 

[Ursa Major]

So for those folks pointing out the witness's statement that the injured WSU athlete's head was injured when it hit the ground after the first punch, it's probably irrelevant, at least with regard to Strong's culpability for the injury, for two reasons. 1) Strong's first punch was assumedly the proximate cause of the other guy's skull hitting the ground, and 2) Strong allegedly hit the guy at least one more time after he was on the ground. I just wouldn't expect Strong to catch a break on the severity of his punishment if he's charged and found guilty for assault, since a skull injury like this would be argued to be a foreseeable potential outcome resulting from a head punch delivered by a powerful athlete. Having said that, it's why these things take time to gather facts, and ultimately get argued in a courtroom, with sometimes unexpected outcomes, depending on facts and the skill of the attorneys involved to argue their client's perspective.

And no, I'm not an attorney, but I stayed recently at a Holiday Inn Express.

Shoulder pads? Asking for a friend .

I'm waiting for the, "at least he wasn't out driving and texting" defense.

 

[tnt]

I have never seen or been around an actual fight where both parties didn't feel totally justified in their involvement and didn't point a finger at the other guy as it being his fault. Were it not for the Wazzu kids injury, I doubt more than a few minutes would have been spent trying to figure this one out.

 

[Diesel]

PR, is this the Wyatt Meyring AKA The Studley MMA who has fought in the Octagon at Quest Arena.
He brags on social media #martialarts #IAmAnAnimal. Sounds like he may be looking for practice fights.

 

[PlayerRep]

I have never seen or been around an actual fight where both parties didn't feel totally justified in their involvement and didn't point a finger at the other guy as it being his fault. Were it not for the Wazzu kids injury, I doubt more than a few minutes would have been spent trying to figure this one out.

Agree on both of your points.

 

[G-BEARS]

PR, is this the Wyatt Meyring AKA The Studley MMA who has fought in the Octagon at Quest Arena.
He brags on social media #martialarts #IAmAnAnimal. Sounds like he may be looking for practice fights.

Yeah same guy.

 

[Diesel]

Who is posting being a tough guy on social media?
If Justin is not intoxicated and at party with his brother, if brother or friend involved in initial altercation, like most people was probably taught to stick up for his younger brother.

 

[SACCAT66]

Well...At least none of them involved were texting and driving. This could have been even more tragic is they were fighting WHILE texting and driving, while wearing seat belts. #seatbeltsaretherealkiller

 

[Gaeilge1]

There are a couple of things that puzzle me about what has been reported. One has to do with what actually happened to cause Justin to re-engage Mr Weyring after the chase?
Was some threat made? Did one party charge the other? We apparently don't know yet. I've read most of the comments regarding this and its still not clear.

The second is in regard to the second punch and whether it was necessary? From what I have been able to gather Strong hit this guy knocking him down to the pavement/sidewalk, where Meyring's head hit the surface causing a fractured skull. Apparently Mr Meyring did attempt to get up and Strong then hit him again apparently rendering Meyring unconscious.

From all accounts it was Meyring who started this series of events. There seems to be a lot of speculation about that second punch and whether it was necessary. Now, I'm not trying to justify Justin's actions as he never should have put himself in that situation. But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

 

[grizband]

Who is posting being a tough guy on social media?
If Justin is not intoxicated and at party with his brother, if brother or friend involved in initial altercation, like most people was probably taught to stick up for his younger brother.

Thought I read earlier that Justin Strong wasn't intoxicated...

 

[SoldierGriz]

Who is posting being a tough guy on social media?
If Justin is not intoxicated and at party with his brother, if brother or friend involved in initial altercation, like most people was probably taught to stick up for his younger brother.

Thought I read earlier that Justin Strong wasn't intoxicated...

Correct. Police statement said he did not appear intoxicated, and was not tested.

 

[Mavman]

This wyatt kid was in a bad car accident in 2014 when his buddy held his breath while driving through a tunnel and passed out. I hope he completely heals from this latest ordeal and has better fortunes going forward.

 

[tnt]

........But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

Lets hope not. Depending on the prosecutor, that kind of a grey area is something they may not feel they should sort out but rather leave it to a jury...... So then come the charges.

Hopefully they will decide it was a fight and that a horrible accident occurred

 

[SoldierGriz]

........But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

Lets hope not. Depending on the prosecutor, that kind of a grey area is something they may not feel they should sort out but rather leave it to a jury...... So then come the charges.

Hopefully they will decide it was a fight and that a horrible accident occurred

Why would he chase down a "big and aggressive" man? The self defense aspects of this thing are really, really ambiguous to me.

 

[tnt]

........But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

Lets hope not. Depending on the prosecutor, that kind of a grey area is something they may not feel they should sort out but rather leave it to a jury...... So then come the charges.

Hopefully they will decide it was a fight and that a horrible accident occurred

Why would he chase down a "big and aggressive" man? The self defense aspects of this thing are really, really ambiguous to me.

Well I wasn't going to play because we don't have enough information BUT what you suggest and what do know makes me think it was self defense. He chased the guy out, didn't see him came his senses and said to himself what the hell was I thinking, headed back to party and ran into the guy.

 

[PlayerRep]

........But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

Lets hope not. Depending on the prosecutor, that kind of a grey area is something they may not feel they should sort out but rather leave it to a jury...... So then come the charges.

Hopefully they will decide it was a fight and that a horrible accident occurred

Why would he chase down a "big and aggressive" man? The self defense aspects of this thing are really, really ambiguous to me.

Well I wasn't going to play because we don't have enough information BUT what you suggest and what do know makes me think it was self defense. He chased the guy out, didn't see him came his senses and said to himself what the hell was I thinking, headed back to party and ran into the guy.

If those turn out to be the facts, then that is helpful to Strong's position.

 

[PlayerRep]

........But, my question is if Mr Meyring is as big and aggressive as he appears, would it appear in the heat of the moment from Strong's perspective that he was trying to get up to continue the fight, and in that light, still be considered at least from Justin's point of view self defense?

Lets hope not. Depending on the prosecutor, that kind of a grey area is something they may not feel they should sort out but rather leave it to a jury...... So then come the charges.

Hopefully they will decide it was a fight and that a horrible accident occurred

Why would he chase down a "big and aggressive" man? The self defense aspects of this thing are really, really ambiguous to me.

Again, my view is that the self-defense analysis will be mostly based on what happened in the seconds before Strong's punch. The rest, like the skirmish in the house and chasing, will be used, but will be more background.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

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