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Stitt

Jeff Choke said:
I think the state of Montana should lock us both up with long term deals. Stitt is playing with the recruiting classes of two different head coaching staffs in the last 5 years. He needs at least 3 more to change the culture and get his guys in there.

I need 5 more.
With 40 more new players coming in this off season, maybe even 50 he will have all his own in place next year
 
...is coaching for a contract.

Next year is his contract year. Who the hell knows what will happen?

- Stitt could lead the Griz to a deep playoff run, and earn a new multi-year contract.
- Stitt could lead just well enough to earn another year.
- Stitt could lead a continued regression. No renewal.

Kind of like the Griz of the last 2 seasons...never really know what your going to get. I'm cheering like crazy for #1. I do continue to think he needs to do a full accounting of his assistants in the off season, and make some changes.
 
Stitt Sucks! Listened to his press conference yesterday and after the Eastern loss! The pathetic excuses of how the team had 6-8 plays that handed the other team the victory and if they would have executed better it wouldn't of even been a game has to stop. COACH better then Stitt! Get rid of your Napoleon complex, give the other team some credit when you lose and do a better job.
 
OU812! said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
OU812! said:
He is currently playing with HIS guys now!

Actually, false.

So he's does not have his guys yet? after more than 20 guys left the program? Thats damn near 1/3 of our scholarships. He has very good material better than most. This I need to have "my guys" is a weak excuse. Bohl has been in Wyoming 2 years & has completely transformed that program!

completely turned around? They just got beat by UNLV...
Stitt deserves two more years and barring a complete collapse next year, he will get it.
 
daGrizJ said:
A coach does not fumble snaps that are returned for TDs. A coach does not drop easy, sure TD passes. A coach does not panic in the pocket, miss wide open WRs in the end zone and try to run. (Allthough Chalich did pick up several key first downs.) A coach does not overthrow WRs in the endzone. A coach does not miss easy field goals or EPs. A coach does not get penalties that hurt drives. A coach does not drop perfect passes. A coach does not miss blocks (O line) or tackles. A coach does not fumble in the redzone. These are all things a coach has no control over in any particular game.

Hmm, if what you wrote above is true, then what exactly does a coach do?? Stitt is earning a lot of money to do, according to you, not much...

I get that ultimately players need to execute. But being prepared to execute begins and ends with the coach.
 
AZGrizFan said:
fanofzoo said:
Yes his guys are coming but I don't sense a change in the style of play and there in lies the rub.

Almost ALL of this is cured with a better performing O-line. All the skill players in the world don't do you any good if you don't have time to get them the ball....I believe the next two years will see significant improvement in the O-line, and thus the team performance--especially in the Red Zone....
Completely agree with this comment regarding the offense. Still need to get the swagger back on defense!



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ranco said:
Stitt deserves two more years and barring a complete collapse next year, he will get it.
Just curious. How does any coach, CEO, president, "deserve" more time to accomplish what he was hired to do in the first place? We are approaching year seven for Royce Engstrom. At what point do you pull the plug?
 
UMGriz75 said:
ranco said:
Stitt deserves two more years and barring a complete collapse next year, he will get it.
Just curious. How does any coach, CEO, president, "deserve" more time to accomplish what he was hired to do in the first place? We are approaching year seven for Royce Engstrom. At what point do you pull the plug?

I don't know about 'deserve' but rely on common sense to outline a realistic timeline.
 
UMGriz75 said:
ranco said:
Stitt deserves two more years and barring a complete collapse next year, he will get it.
Just curious. How does any coach, CEO, president, "deserve" more time to accomplish what he was hired to do in the first place? We are approaching year seven for Royce Engstrom. At what point do you pull the plug?

7 years ago with Rolled Royce. But the BOR has absolutely no balls. They won't do anything.

That said, no doubt Stitt gets next year. If not significant improvement, it will be an interesting time for Kent.
 
"Deserve" is a tough word to work with. In part, honesty is a key indicator of how well a coach, CEO, etc can manage his or her franchise. In business, this is almost invariably done by "strategic plans." Woe to the CEO that oversells by putting it down on paper.

Unfortunately, we have something of that at work at UM.

Griz Nation is experiencing something quite different than the Wombats. I doubt that any coach has ever arrived with as much hype as Bob Stitt. That was a journalism-driven publicity campaign, driven by people like George Ferguson and Kyle Sample, which put way too much positive spin on the hire, breathlessly reporting titles like "offensive genius" and reporting how he had "dominated" the RMAC. One "journalist" tried to argue, even just recently, that Stitt had been heavily recruited before "accepting" Montana's offer. I had to point out to this "journalist" that Stitt himself had pointed out that he had never been recruited before Montana. The koolaid was being heavily mixed and distributed, and sports journalists were the most enthusiastic purveyors. Fans came away with the impression, heavily promoted, that Stitt's record was "phenomenal!"

From that reporting, fans came away with a promotional brochure that allowed no room for the usual ups and downs of rebuilding -- didn't need to with this guy! And of course, it became murky as to how to rebuild from successful back-to-back seasons.

Nobody did due diligence. The record at Mines was journeyman, a "good" record but not exceptional. Nobody noticed that Rob Ash had a substantially better record at MooYOO in nine years than Stitt at Mines in 15 years, even though "Mines" was the best funded program in that conference.

Nobody bothered to point to nine losses of 15 games to Chadron State, including a 55-0 walloping. Didn't fit the "Narrative." Nobody pointed to the complete lack of DI experience in coaching, recruiting, or managing a DI program. No one bothered to ask if DII defenses were really comparable to DI defenses that the DII coaches would be facing. Nobody looked to any record of success or failure of DII coaches moving to DI.

The astounding lack of any efforts at an objective or critical examination of this hire was ... astounding. That was a full-blown, all-in public relations campaign. The amazing thing is that Stitt got it all for free.

And Stitt fed that promotional bandwagon, as much as he could. He gloried in it. If the Caddy had a brake pedal, he was not going to look for it and temper the adoring, fawning, obsequious wordage pouring from the word processors of our "journalists."

Now, it's "The Morning After," to borrow from a famous sports column at the Seattle P-I. Real "sports journalists" can tell you who wrote it and why it was one of the best sports columns of all time.

Griz fans were misled. It's not the reaction of having some set-backs, perhaps inevitable, it's the fact that the hype was so pervasive, and the reality so different.

If there is a "backlash" it is well-deserved. Thanks to "sports journalists" and Stitt himself, expectations were created, whole cloth, that the coach had not earned, but nevertheless encouraged.
 
...75.....do us all a favor.....and start a blog......I will ask the mods.....if you can post links....on the board....that way......we can all ignore......"random thoughts of 75"......without having to.......scroll forever.......
 
biggest disappointment isn't necessarily the losses but that the team seems to be regressing. The offense sputters from hot to cold. Defense seems to be stuck in reverse. Special teams show little to no improvement. Play calling seems odd. If you go back to the EWU game, Griz had the ball first and ten inside the ten and threw every down and failed to score after being successful running on the drive. I honestly don't know what to expect this weekend. I would think that a home game against the Cats should be a no brainer. However, given what we have witnessed the last few weeks who knows.
 
Glendivegriz said:
biggest disappointment isn't necessarily the losses but that the team seems to be regressing. The offense sputters from hot to cold. Defense seems to be stuck in reverse. Special teams show little to no improvement. Play calling seems odd. If you go back to the EWU game, Griz had the ball first and ten inside the ten and threw every down and failed to score after being successful running on the drive. I honestly don't know what to expect this weekend. I would think that a home game against the Cats should be a no brainer. However, given what we have witnessed the last few weeks who knows.
Pretty much my thoughts as well.
 
kemajic said:
Glendivegriz said:
biggest disappointment isn't necessarily the losses but that the team seems to be regressing. The offense sputters from hot to cold. Defense seems to be stuck in reverse. Special teams show little to no improvement. Play calling seems odd. If you go back to the EWU game, Griz had the ball first and ten inside the ten and threw every down and failed to score after being successful running on the drive. I honestly don't know what to expect this weekend. I would think that a home game against the Cats should be a no brainer. However, given what we have witnessed the last few weeks who knows.
Pretty much my thoughts as well.
Mine too.
 
kemajic said:
Glendivegriz said:
biggest disappointment isn't necessarily the losses but that the team seems to be regressing. The offense sputters from hot to cold. Defense seems to be stuck in reverse. Special teams show little to no improvement. Play calling seems odd. If you go back to the EWU game, Griz had the ball first and ten inside the ten and threw every down and failed to score after being successful running on the drive. I honestly don't know what to expect this weekend. I would think that a home game against the Cats should be a no brainer. However, given what we have witnessed the last few weeks who knows.
Pretty much my thoughts as well.

Well, we're on our 2nd string QB, our 2nd & 3rd best RB's, we lost our best WR for 3 games, our starting center, missed our starting CB for 6 games (and he hasn't looked great since returning), etc., etc.....I know, I know, injuries happen to every team...but basically our top 3 skill positions ALL at the same time?
 
grizindabox said:
...75.....do us all a favor.....and start a blog......I will ask the mods.....if you can post links....on the board....that way......we can all ignore......"random thoughts of 75"......without having to.......scroll forever.......

75...keep it up. Your posts are much more informative and enjoyable to read, rather than the random thoughts & bs trolls line grizinthebox like to post.

Thank you for being one of the good ones on this board.
 
I'm staying on the Stitt bandwagon and I'm willing to keep everyones seat warm till you return.
I think Stitt has brought in some really good players that everyone will get to know next season.
A lot of the key contributors will be a year older and better next year.
I love the o-line recruits waiting in the wings.
Calhoun will be back and a couple of the red shirt RB could be special.

I think another coaching change would be a disaster, you would be right back to a new coach running his style that may not fit the recruits Stitt is bringing in.

Lastly I realize the Griz have not been a dominating team for about 8yrs now and I believe it is too much to ask any coach to make the team National contenders in a three year period when they have not been for over 10 years!
 
UMGriz75 said:
"Deserve" is a tough word to work with. In part, honesty is a key indicator of how well a coach, CEO, etc can manage his or her franchise. In business, this is almost invariably done by "strategic plans." Woe to the CEO that oversells by putting it down on paper.

Unfortunately, we have something of that at work at UM.

Griz Nation is experiencing something quite different than the Wombats. I doubt that any coach has ever arrived with as much hype as Bob Stitt. That was a journalism-driven publicity campaign, driven by people like George Ferguson and Kyle Sample, which put way too much positive spin on the hire, breathlessly reporting titles like "offensive genius" and reporting how he had "dominated" the RMAC. One "journalist" tried to argue, even just recently, that Stitt had been heavily recruited before "accepting" Montana's offer. I had to point out to this "journalist" that Stitt himself had pointed out that he had never been recruited before Montana. The koolaid was being heavily mixed and distributed, and sports journalists were the most enthusiastic purveyors. Fans came away with the impression, heavily promoted, that Stitt's record was "phenomenal!"

From that reporting, fans came away with a promotional brochure that allowed no room for the usual ups and downs of rebuilding -- didn't need to with this guy! And of course, it became murky as to how to rebuild from successful back-to-back seasons.

Nobody did due diligence. The record at Mines was journeyman, a "good" record but not exceptional. Nobody noticed that Rob Ash had a substantially better record at MooYOO in nine years than Stitt at Mines in 15 years, even though "Mines" was the best funded program in that conference.

Nobody bothered to point to nine losses of 15 games to Chadron State, including a 55-0 walloping. Didn't fit the "Narrative." Nobody pointed to the complete lack of DI experience in coaching, recruiting, or managing a DI program. No one bothered to ask if DII defenses were really comparable to DI defenses that the DII coaches would be facing. Nobody looked to any record of success or failure of DII coaches moving to DI.

The astounding lack of any efforts at an objective or critical examination of this hire was ... astounding. That was a full-blown, all-in public relations campaign. The amazing thing is that Stitt got it all for free.

And Stitt fed that promotional bandwagon, as much as he could. He gloried in it. If the Caddy had a brake pedal, he was not going to look for it and temper the adoring, fawning, obsequious wordage pouring from the word processors of our "journalists."

Now, it's "The Morning After," to borrow from a famous sports column at the Seattle P-I. Real "sports journalists" can tell you who wrote it and why it was one of the best sports columns of all time.

Griz fans were misled. It's not the reaction of having some set-backs, perhaps inevitable, it's the fact that the hype was so pervasive, and the reality so different.

If there is a "backlash" it is well-deserved. Thanks to "sports journalists" and Stitt himself, expectations were created, whole cloth, that the coach had not earned, but nevertheless encouraged.

Well, that was said well, and without a reality destortion, even including facts, however will never fly here in the reality distortion field of eGriz.
 
You know what is funny when I read all the coach threads. Griz fans want to think that the Griz head coaching job is this super sought after position and that there is always a long list of top flight candidates. Thing is, it's not really. I get many wanted Hauck, and understand why he didn't get the job. But beyond Hauck, Stitt, and Pease, who of any consequence applied for the job this last time?
 
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