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Stitt on Strahm....
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grizare#1 said:
70 tackles last year, and 2d leading tackler on team. Former high school safety, who seems to be able to play good pass defense from middle backer. Never been in trouble before, as far as I can see. Senior. Liked by his teammates. What are you concerned about? Do you think theres' any chance he would get another dui? I would say the chances are zero.
bgbigdog said:
This.
Had to read about Strahm's court date in the Billings Gazette this morning. Does not matter that he has never been in trouble before. It is bad publicity for U of M and the football team. Not sure how that in some way does not "hurt the team" like the coach said.
C'mon TNT. Not to re-hash all of this again but the attempted JJ expulsion and the knee jerk firing of the AD and HC were enough to send RE packing. Throw in the basic mismanagement of the U of M and you got a pretty strong case for his removal IMO....
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RE should never have been hired. The search back in 2010 SHOULD have been reopened, but it wasn't IF anyone recalls, it was perfectly clear that some pretty heavy stuff was about to come down (there were rumors thats why Dennison retired)Every other finalist withdrew after visiting and seeing the problems from the shadow president and Pat Williams connection, off field issues with the football program (that were just starting to gain a lot of traction, Bobbys blow up over the curb stomping that made the national news SEVERAL times,and on goes the list. Royce was the only candidate left standing. THAT alone should have been a warning. That he thought he could handle what far more qualified folks wouldn't touch, should have been
a red flag and certainly no surprise he and the University went down in flames. Not sure if anyone could have prevented it.
84GRIZ said:
How does it hurt the team or the school? Will one less dollar be donated because of the announced court date? Will one less ticket be purchased for a sporting event? Yes, he made a big mistake, yes it was some distraction for the team (in the summer), yes it has hurt him. Just don't get the hurt the team/school argument at this point.
Again, what hurt the team is RE's firing of O'Day and Pflu. What hurt the school are multiple decisions that RE did or did not make. These things are wounded the school for the foreseeable future. About a billion times more than a dui arrest by some football player.
PlayerRep said:
This may shock you but ticket sales aren't the issue nor do most people care who is the coach and athletic director.......... Sadly the issue is to the broader public what the impressions they develop of U is what they read in the paper. You know people like parents and prospective students.
tnt said:
RE should never have been hired. The search back in 2010 SHOULD have been reopened, but it wasn't IF anyone recalls, it was perfectly clear that some pretty heavy stuff was about to come down (there were rumors thats why Dennison retired)Every other finalist withdrew after visiting and seeing the problems from the shadow president and Pat Williams connection, off field issues with the football program (that were just starting to gain a lot of traction, Bobbys blow up over the curb stomping that made the national news SEVERAL times,and on goes the list. Royce was the only candidate left standing. THAT alone should have been a warning. That he thought he could handle what far more qualified folks wouldn't touch, should have been
a red flag and certainly no surprise he and the University went down in flames. Not sure if anyone could have prevented it.
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Your timing is off.
RE was hired on Oct. 15, 2010. The string of off field issues (most of which were actually non issues) didn't start until the taser incident in Nov. 2011 and the sexual assault stuff in mid December of 2011. There wasn't any curb stomping. Just a little fight outside of an off campus house. That occurred in the spring of '09. The related game suspension was in the fall of '09. Bobby didn't have a blow up. He just told a pesky/aggressive Kaimin reporter what he thought.
tnt said:
A dui arrest of student or football player has virtually zero impact on parents and prospective students. And nothing compared to the impacts of the bad decisions of RE, including the firing of the two and his gross mishandling of the sexual assault stuff. The decisions and incompetence of RE's dean, and RE in some things, led directly to the JJ issue becoming something that it really wasn't and eventually to Krakauer's book and continuing legal actions. Talk about damage, and continuing damage. The Strahm dui is not even a drop in the bucket.
IdaGriz01
Well-known member
I said my piece earlier, but -- since this thread has just kept rolling -- I'll chime in again. He paid his dues on the infraction, but the bigger issue of "trust" also has to be dealt with. That's why having him "play his way back onto the field" is justified, IMO. And, since he has superior talent, that should not take long.nzone said:
PlayerRep said:
Your timing is off.
RE was hired on Oct. 15, 2010. The string of off field issues (most of which were actually non issues) didn't start until the taser incident in Nov. 2011 and the sexual assault stuff in mid December of 2011. There wasn't any curb stomping. Just a little fight outside of an off campus house. That occurred in the spring of '09. The related game suspension was in the fall of '09. Bobby didn't have a blow up. He just told a pesky/aggressive Kaimin reporter what he thought.
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My timing isn't off a bit. An an out of control football program, "cover-up" issues and the bad press started as early as 2007. As I recall that year seven or so players made the headlines. Qwenton Freeman was arrested for disorderly conduct and guard J.D. Quinn was charged with his third DUI. Tim Parks, was arrested for domestic assault when he allegedly pointed a gun at his girlfriend. Who could forget the Police meeting the Bus that year after the ISU game and arresting Greg Coleman, defensive end Mike Shelton and defensive back Jeramy Pate for armed robbery and kidnapping. And of course Jimmy Wilson.
The Kaiman incident (and it was not a little fight) landed the University football program in the National News the first time.
The enrollment decline started with these events not the JJ case or firing of Coach and AD of you want to talk about timing
Not denying any of the issues since as I said RE should never have been hired especially when every other finalist withdrew their names after visiting campus. As far as this incident, Stitt did fine, but don't make the mistake that another arrest for what ever reason following the last few years doesn't have an effect.
Connor Strahm will go to court and get a fair trial then and only then should he be put to task! And besides who is holding Stitt accountable? Not Haslam that's for sure! Picked to finish sixth is a bigger crime, in itself, (worthy of getting fired at the minimum!!) NAU just fired Jerome Sauers, mid-season, and he was doing a much better job than Bob Stitt!!! Fire Stitt and bring Bobby Hauck back then we will worry about Connor...
Grisly Fan
Well-known member
Enrollment statistics don't support your assertion that the decline began in 2007:
2007 12,140
2008 12,436
2009 12,784
2010 13,346
2011 13,917
2012 13,643
2013 12,830
2014 12,211
2015 11,823
2016 11,147
2017 10,478
2007 12,140
2008 12,436
2009 12,784
2010 13,346
2011 13,917
2012 13,643
2013 12,830
2014 12,211
2015 11,823
2016 11,147
2017 10,478
Grisly Fan said:
Beat me to it...
Also feel that Coach Stitt is doing a near perfect job in terms of discipline.
