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Stitt building an OL... Dare I say DOLA?

Ringneck said:
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
I've heard Stitt has been ignoring eastern Montana in recruiting, and considering that a decent-level recruit from Eastern Montana is probably going to be in the trenches.

How true is that?

I don't know if what you heard is true, or what western Montanans consider to be "eastern Montana," but over the past few years Stitt and Co. have recruited and signed:
  • Braydon and Bryson Deming, Billings West (Eastern AA)
  • Nate Dick, Billings Senior (Eastern AA)
  • Michael McGinnis, Sidney (Eastern A)
  • Holden Ryan, Billings Central (Eastern A)
  • Ben Hardy (walk on, I think), Fairview (Eastern C, 8-man)

Not to mention the late Luke Gonsioroski from Baker, an Eastern B school (who signed with Texas Tech) and this year's gem, Gabe Sulser, from Billings Senior (Eastern AA).

I've watched quite a bit of Eastern A football this year and while I'm no talent scout, I wouldn't say that there are any sure-fire Division 1 players in the league. Alec Lovegren of Sidney and Ben Voss of Billings Central are a couple of running backs that have dominated games, and might be on the cusp of FCS football, but my guess is that they'll probably end up at NAIA schools. I know even less about what to look for in an OL/DL recruit, but I haven't personally seen anybody dominate or stand out like Mike Person, Terran Hillesland and Trapper Hight did 10-15 years ago.

Like one of the best professors I ever had , Rick Graetz always said in Montana geography.....you call it Montana east of the Rockies.

The communities found east of the rockies are generally more alike economically and socially than those communities found withing the ranges and valleys.
 
Paytonlives said:
In a strange recruiting event, UM has zero Junior O-linemen on the roster. That void was left by the previous coach at UM. Below is Coach Sitt's first 3 years of recruiting and this years verbals so far.

Watching the film of these dudes can get you fired up about three things. They are strong, large and kick a$$. Cant wait to see these guys for the next several years.

2018 Vebals
Tyler Ganoung 6'4" 320
Sean Anderson 6'8" 310
Conor Quick 6'2" 280

Frosh (are redshirts)
Colton Keintz 6'8" 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 255
Payton Stoner 6'6" 282

Red Shirt Frosh
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 292
Thayne Jackson 6'5" 296
Ashton Torres 6'4" 292
Brandon Scott 6'7" 295
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 293

Red Shirt Soph
Cody Meyer 6'3" 293
Angel Villanueva 6'5" 324
Dallas Hart 6'5" 315
If you go back and look you will see that the reason there are no juniors on the O line is because both Reese and Lukes had to burn their redshirt year and play as a true freshman. They should be redshirt juniors this year. The prior staff could have recruited more OL players but 4 current starters in the O line that people are referring to as DOLA were recruited by the former staff.
 
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)
 
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)
My take. We are 1 or 2 elite corners away from what the defense wants to do. Sprinkle in the fan base of the unrealistic.
 
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.
 
PlayerRep said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.

See, this is why I wish there was a recruiting site that covered more of the country than the south and California. I can't make a comparison vs when Bobby or Glenn were here.

My guess is he's saying that because we've recruited some high caliber players for this level, headlined recently by 3* QB Matt Robinson, which is a very rare thing at the FCS level, especially out west.
 
PlayerRep said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.
Since we base recruits "on paper" until an NFL offer comes after, I would say show me any prior staff that can attract kids from programs that are ranked as many "star" recruits. Whatever that really means. But Stitt is proving he's attracting talent within top 10 ranked national high school programs and finding kids under the radar.
Sammy Akem is a great example. That guy was under recruited. At worst, should've had a MWC offer, at best, the kid with his frame is a lower tier PAC 12 talent if we examine nothing else. Add what he did on the track field with that kind of speed....just saying.
Now we have a verbal from the overall no 38 player in Arizona (lineman), a qb from the #8 ranked high school team in the US, a potential Center from the #7 high school team in America. The top MT recruit, which NDSU wants. We get a defensive transfer nose guard from Maryland out of all places, Maryland, a hot bed of FCS schools around. Conlin Beaver comes from the east coast. We get a top 10 juco qb from a hot bed of Texas. A great linebacker from UAB, who has no business having the Griz on his radar, that far away. A KENTUCKY transfer.
Where were our prior key drop downs that actually made an impact?
Wash St. Oregon State. Iowa State. Kansas. Wyoming. Where have our recruiting hot beds been...the Northwest. We have kids out of these regions and now oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, and more east coast kids on the roster than I can remember at one time.
Joe got a kid out of Alaska. Bobby, an Iowa State transfer and a walk on from Havre. Don, a transfer from Oregon State and the Legend of the Fall, who not many teams wanted. Edit: i should also add Colorado. Forgot we also had a key Buff drop down.
 
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
PlayerRep said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.
Since we base recruits "on paper" until an NFL offer comes after, I would say show me any prior staff that can attract kids from programs that are ranked as many "star" recruits. Whatever that really means. But Stitt is proving he's attracting talent within top 10 ranked national high school programs and finding kids under the radar.
Sammy Akem is a great example. That guy was under recruited. At worst, should've had a MWC offer, at best, the kid with his frame is a lower tier PAC 12 talent if we examine nothing else. Add what he did on the track field with that kind of speed....just saying.
Now we have a verbal from the overall no 38 player in Arizona (lineman), a qb from the #8 ranked high school team in the US, a potential Center from the #7 high school team in America. We get a defensive transfer nose guard from Maryland out of all places, Maryland, a hot bed of FCS schools around. Conlin Beaver comes from the east coast. We get a top 10 juco qb from a hot bed of Texas. A great linebacker from UAB, who has no business having the Griz on his radar, that far away. A KENTUCKY transfer.
Where were our prior key drop downs that actually made an impact?
Wash St. Oregon State. Iowa State. Kansas. Wyoming. Where have our recruiting hot beds been...the Northwest. We have kids out of these regions and now oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, and more east coast kids on the roster than I can remember at one time.

Personally, I don't feel like that's always a good thing. JJ Watt can attest that stars don't mean a whole lot. And given that there's plenty of talent here in Montana that gets overlooked by the services that rate recruits and decide stars, that doesn't mean a whole lot for us.

And I remember an article a while back that talked about how nationally recruiting doesn't return the results you expect. Something about how Tennessee won a championship with 22 Tennessee kids on the roster, started recruiting nationally, and fell off. Part of that can be attributed to certain other things, but there was some valid points brought up. Anyways, the reason why it becomes a problem is programs stop catching the local kids that made them good, the diamonds in the rough that go to other schools and succeed there.
 
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
PlayerRep said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.
Since we base recruits "on paper" until an NFL offer comes after, I would say show me any prior staff that can attract kids from programs that are ranked as many "star" recruits. Whatever that really means. But Stitt is proving he's attracting talent within top 10 ranked national high school programs and finding kids under the radar.
Sammy Akem is a great example. That guy was under recruited. At worst, should've had a MWC offer, at best, the kid with his frame is a lower tier PAC 12 talent if we examine nothing else. Add what he did on the track field with that kind of speed....just saying.
Now we have a verbal from the overall no 38 player in Arizona (lineman), a qb from the #8 ranked high school team in the US, a potential Center from the #7 high school team in America. We get a defensive transfer nose guard from Maryland out of all places, Maryland, a hot bed of FCS schools around. Conlin Beaver comes from the east coast. We get a top 10 juco qb from a hot bed of Texas. A great linebacker from UAB, who has no business having the Griz on his radar, that far away. A KENTUCKY transfer.
Where were our prior key drop downs that actually made an impact?
Wash St. Oregon State. Iowa State. Kansas. Wyoming. Where have our recruiting hot beds been...the Northwest. We have kids out of these regions and now oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, and more east coast kids on the roster than I can remember at one time.

Personally, I don't feel like that's always a good thing. JJ Watt can attest that stars don't mean a whole lot. And given that there's plenty of talent here in Montana that gets overlooked by the services that rate recruits and decide stars, that doesn't mean a whole lot for us.

And I remember an article a while back that talked about how nationally recruiting doesn't return the results you expect. Something about how Tennessee won a championship with 22 Tennessee kids on the roster, started recruiting nationally, and fell off. Part of that can be attributed to certain other things, but there was some valid points brought up. Anyways, the reason why it becomes a problem is programs stop catching the local kids that made them good, the diamonds in the rough that go to other schools and succeed there.

Well, since 8 of the 12 verbals are kids from Montana, if you're implyin Stitt is ignoring the local kids, I'd be curious to know which kids are out there that he's ignoring, and what percentage of this class do you think should be from Montana? Right now, it's already over 75 percent.
 
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
PlayerRep said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)

What's your basis for saying: "There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with." I am not disagreeing. I am just asking.
Since we base recruits "on paper" until an NFL offer comes after, I would say show me any prior staff that can attract kids from programs that are ranked as many "star" recruits. Whatever that really means. But Stitt is proving he's attracting talent within top 10 ranked national high school programs and finding kids under the radar.
Sammy Akem is a great example. That guy was under recruited. At worst, should've had a MWC offer, at best, the kid with his frame is a lower tier PAC 12 talent if we examine nothing else. Add what he did on the track field with that kind of speed....just saying.
Now we have a verbal from the overall no 38 player in Arizona (lineman), a qb from the #8 ranked high school team in the US, a potential Center from the #7 high school team in America. We get a defensive transfer nose guard from Maryland out of all places, Maryland, a hot bed of FCS schools around. Conlin Beaver comes from the east coast. We get a top 10 juco qb from a hot bed of Texas. A great linebacker from UAB, who has no business having the Griz on his radar, that far away. A KENTUCKY transfer.
Where were our prior key drop downs that actually made an impact?
Wash St. Oregon State. Iowa State. Kansas. Wyoming. Where have our recruiting hot beds been...the Northwest. We have kids out of these regions and now oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, and more east coast kids on the roster than I can remember at one time.

Personally, I don't feel like that's always a good thing. JJ Watt can attest that stars don't mean a whole lot. And given that there's plenty of talent here in Montana that gets overlooked by the services that rate recruits and decide stars, that doesn't mean a whole lot for us.

And I remember an article a while back that talked about how nationally recruiting doesn't return the results you expect. Something about how Tennessee won a championship with 22 Tennessee kids on the roster, started recruiting nationally, and fell off. Part of that can be attributed to certain other things, but there was some valid points brought up. Anyways, the reason why it becomes a problem is programs stop catching the local kids that made them good, the diamonds in the rough that go to other schools and succeed there.
You bring up a fair point and perhaps I didn't make my post clear enough. My point is you need the X factor and Stitt is hitting that AND the MT kids.
Case in point, Sandry is our Vinny or Blaine. But Tennessee is just that Tennessee. We dont have the major populations to get that exposure, so we depend upon camps. We dont have the talent to reload year after year after year anymore and compete at a level that Griz Nation expects. Some years, you load Montana kids. We have the top 4 of 5 verballed already. Good enough? Some years you find a lunch pail kid like Tim Bush, have him walk on and earn the schollie.
It's an old argument about Mt kids and the outside. I'm not for or against it. My point is, you cannot cut Stitt because he's doing something I haven't seen done before. Period!
 
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)
My take. We are 1 or 2 elite corners away from what the defense wants to do. Sprinkle in the fan base of the unrealistic.

rookie...okay tough guy!...the proof is in the pudding...I'm not a Stitt basher just not anointing him to be the next Don Reed..Bobby was a great recruiter and put many in the NFL and not to mention he didn't have facilities and the exposure Stitt has gotten (ESPN North Dokota Game) ...I think Stitt is
riding the wave from the previous Griz success..I will give Stitt this year and than will see what we got?
I just don't share hes bringing bigger talent...Bison, JMU, yes..will see?
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ringneck said:
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
I've heard Stitt has been ignoring eastern Montana in recruiting, and considering that a decent-level recruit from Eastern Montana is probably going to be in the trenches.

How true is that?

I don't know if what you heard is true, or what western Montanans consider to be "eastern Montana," but over the past few years Stitt and Co. have recruited and signed:
  • Braydon and Bryson Deming, Billings West (Eastern AA)
  • Nate Dick, Billings Senior (Eastern AA)
  • Michael McGinnis, Sidney (Eastern A)
  • Holden Ryan, Billings Central (Eastern A)
  • Ben Hardy (walk on, I think), Fairview (Eastern C, 8-man)

Not to mention the late Luke Gonsioroski from Baker, an Eastern B school (who signed with Texas Tech) and this year's gem, Gabe Sulser, from Billings Senior (Eastern AA).

I've watched quite a bit of Eastern A football this year and while I'm no talent scout, I wouldn't say that there are any sure-fire Division 1 players in the league. Alec Lovegren of Sidney and Ben Voss of Billings Central are a couple of running backs that have dominated games, and might be on the cusp of FCS football, but my guess is that they'll probably end up at NAIA schools. I know even less about what to look for in an OL/DL recruit, but I haven't personally seen anybody dominate or stand out like Mike Person, Terran Hillesland and Trapper Hight did 10-15 years ago.

Like one of the best professors I ever had , Rick Graetz always said in Montana geography.....you call it Montana east of the Rockies.

The communities found east of the rockies are generally more alike economically and socially than those communities found withing the ranges and valleys.

Rick Graetz is awesome! loved his slide shows.
 
speth said:
Paytonlives said:
In a strange recruiting event, UM has zero Junior O-linemen on the roster. That void was left by the previous coach at UM. Below is Coach Sitt's first 3 years of recruiting and this years verbals so far.

Watching the film of these dudes can get you fired up about three things. They are strong, large and kick a$$. Cant wait to see these guys for the next several years.

2018 Vebals
Tyler Ganoung 6'4" 320
Sean Anderson 6'8" 310
Conor Quick 6'2" 280

Frosh (are redshirts)
Colton Keintz 6'8" 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 255
Payton Stoner 6'6" 282

Red Shirt Frosh
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 292
Thayne Jackson 6'5" 296
Ashton Torres 6'4" 292
Brandon Scott 6'7" 295
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 293

Red Shirt Soph
Cody Meyer 6'3" 293
Angel Villanueva 6'5" 324
Dallas Hart 6'5" 315
If you go back and look you will see that the reason there are no juniors on the O line is because both Reese and Lukes had to burn their redshirt year and play as a true freshman. They should be redshirt juniors this year. The prior staff could have recruited more OL players but 4 current starters in the O line that people are referring to as DOLA were recruited by the former staff.

This is a good post and fully highlights how long of a tail recruiting can have. Pflugrad didn't emphasize OL recruiting, and to some degree we're still paying for that.
 
grizghost said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)
My take. We are 1 or 2 elite corners away from what the defense wants to do. Sprinkle in the fan base of the unrealistic.

rookie...okay tough guy!...the proof is in the pudding...I'm not a Stitt basher just not anointing him to be the next Don Reed..Bobby was a great recruiter and put many in the NFL and not to mention he didn't have facilities and the exposure Stitt has gotten (ESPN North Dokota Game) ...I think Stitt is
riding the wave from the previous Griz success..I will give Stitt this year and than will see what we got?
I just don't share hes bringing bigger talent...Bison, JMU, yes..will see?

Ya cuz the program was in GREAT shape when Stitt showed up..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
grizghost said:
Dmontanagrizzlies said:
grizghost said:
grizzliesthetics said:
Stitt is really impressing me. Reminds me of when Don Reed started the dynasty vector. It did not go smoothly at first, but he stuck to his philosophy and the rest is history. My early prediction has Stitt going down as a Griz legend!

..this has to be one of the funniest post!...keep on dreaming my friend! Stitt is going to have change
his philosophy if hes going to compete with the big boys! (he already has...)

Perhaps rookie. Did you ever consider the road always meets in the middle? You learn as you grow. Stitt made probably his biggest coaching decision last year getting rid of his WR coach and tried to bring in a side O coordinator.
There is no denying that his philosophy is bringing in even bigger talent than our former coaches had to work with. The amentities will only enhance it now. This isn't a typical defense for the weak and Eastern sure seemed to win a natty with it. Something, Bobby never could do.
Perhaps the bigger question, maybe you should question less and see more :)
My take. We are 1 or 2 elite corners away from what the defense wants to do. Sprinkle in the fan base of the unrealistic.

rookie...okay tough guy!...the proof is in the pudding...I'm not a Stitt basher just not anointing him to be the next Don Reed..Bobby was a great recruiter and put many in the NFL and not to mention he didn't have facilities and the exposure Stitt has gotten (ESPN North Dokota Game) ...I think Stitt is
riding the wave from the previous Griz success..I will give Stitt this year and than will see what we got?
I just don't share hes bringing bigger talent...Bison, JMU, yes..will see?

Good thing you're not in charge. You clearly don't know anything. Especially when you say "he's riding the wave of past Griz success." Come back when you can write a post that's semi-coherent.
 
EverettGriz said:
speth said:
Paytonlives said:
In a strange recruiting event, UM has zero Junior O-linemen on the roster. That void was left by the previous coach at UM. Below is Coach Sitt's first 3 years of recruiting and this years verbals so far.

Watching the film of these dudes can get you fired up about three things. They are strong, large and kick a$$. Cant wait to see these guys for the next several years.

2018 Vebals
Tyler Ganoung 6'4" 320
Sean Anderson 6'8" 310
Conor Quick 6'2" 280

Frosh (are redshirts)
Colton Keintz 6'8" 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 255
Payton Stoner 6'6" 282

Red Shirt Frosh
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 292
Thayne Jackson 6'5" 296
Ashton Torres 6'4" 292
Brandon Scott 6'7" 295
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 293

Red Shirt Soph
Cody Meyer 6'3" 293
Angel Villanueva 6'5" 324
Dallas Hart 6'5" 315
If you go back and look you will see that the reason there are no juniors on the O line is because both Reese and Lukes had to burn their redshirt year and play as a true freshman. They should be redshirt juniors this year. The prior staff could have recruited more OL players but 4 current starters in the O line that people are referring to as DOLA were recruited by the former staff.

This is a good post and fully highlights how long of a tail recruiting can have. Pflugrad didn't emphasize OL recruiting, and to some degree we're still paying for that.

Pflu's last season was 2011. How in the heck can o line recruiting still be "paying for that"? UM is in its 6th season since Pflu. Pflu could have recruited a bunch of all-Americans, but they would all be done by now. Even Delaney's recruits are all seniors or graduated by now.

And, who says Pflu didn't emphasize o line recruiting? I can't imagine that all college coach doesn't recruit o line recruiting. Why would any coach ignore such an important position?
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
speth said:
Paytonlives said:
In a strange recruiting event, UM has zero Junior O-linemen on the roster. That void was left by the previous coach at UM. Below is Coach Sitt's first 3 years of recruiting and this years verbals so far.

Watching the film of these dudes can get you fired up about three things. They are strong, large and kick a$$. Cant wait to see these guys for the next several years.

2018 Vebals
Tyler Ganoung 6'4" 320
Sean Anderson 6'8" 310
Conor Quick 6'2" 280

Frosh (are redshirts)
Colton Keintz 6'8" 275
Skyler Martin 6'5" 255
Payton Stoner 6'6" 282

Red Shirt Frosh
Dylan Eickmeyer 6'4" 292
Thayne Jackson 6'5" 296
Ashton Torres 6'4" 292
Brandon Scott 6'7" 295
Conlan Beaver 6'5" 293

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If you go back and look you will see that the reason there are no juniors on the O line is because both Reese and Lukes had to burn their redshirt year and play as a true freshman. They should be redshirt juniors this year. The prior staff could have recruited more OL players but 4 current starters in the O line that people are referring to as DOLA were recruited by the former staff.

This is a good post and fully highlights how long of a tail recruiting can have. Pflugrad didn't emphasize OL recruiting, and to some degree we're still paying for that.

Pflu's last season was 2011. How in the heck can o line recruiting still be "paying for that"? UM is in its 6th season since Pflu. Pflu could have recruited a bunch of all-Americans, but they would all be done by now. Even Delaney's recruits are all seniors or graduated by now.

And, who says Pflu didn't emphasize o line recruiting? I can't imagine that all college coach doesn't recruit o line recruiting. Why would any coach ignore such an important position?

Thanks PR. How did O-line get so thin pre-Stitt?
 
Diesel said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
speth said:
If you go back and look you will see that the reason there are no juniors on the O line is because both Reese and Lukes had to burn their redshirt year and play as a true freshman. They should be redshirt juniors this year. The prior staff could have recruited more OL players but 4 current starters in the O line that people are referring to as DOLA were recruited by the former staff.

This is a good post and fully highlights how long of a tail recruiting can have. Pflugrad didn't emphasize OL recruiting, and to some degree we're still paying for that.

Pflu's last season was 2011. How in the heck can o line recruiting still be "paying for that"? UM is in its 6th season since Pflu. Pflu could have recruited a bunch of all-Americans, but they would all be done by now. Even Delaney's recruits are all seniors or graduated by now.

And, who says Pflu didn't emphasize o line recruiting? I can't imagine that all college coach doesn't recruit o line recruiting. Why would any coach ignore such an important position?

Thanks PR. How did O-line get so thin pre-Stitt?

Four of the five starters are seniors. I would say the issue wasn't personnel, but coaching (Gragg) and training (pre Germer)...those issues seem to be largely corrected and the O-line (with Delaney's recruits) has performed admirably this year, IMHO.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Diesel said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
This is a good post and fully highlights how long of a tail recruiting can have. Pflugrad didn't emphasize OL recruiting, and to some degree we're still paying for that.

Pflu's last season was 2011. How in the heck can o line recruiting still be "paying for that"? UM is in its 6th season since Pflu. Pflu could have recruited a bunch of all-Americans, but they would all be done by now. Even Delaney's recruits are all seniors or graduated by now.

And, who says Pflu didn't emphasize o line recruiting? I can't imagine that all college coach doesn't recruit o line recruiting. Why would any coach ignore such an important position?

Thanks PR. How did O-line get so thin pre-Stitt?

Four of the five starters are seniors. I would say the issue wasn't personnel, but coaching (Gragg) and training (pre Germer)...those issues seem to be largely corrected and the O-line (with Delaney's recruits) has performed admirably this year, IMHO.

Wasn't Gragg carrying on recruiting responsibilities also beside coaching O-line? Two senior O-line were TE recruits for Delaney that were best frames to switch to O-line under Sitt's tenure. Germer did great with what he had to work with.
 
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