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Statement from Jeremy Calhoun

Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
Jeremy Calhoun is a liar.

This is one hundred percent on him, his actions. I am glad his brother is nothing like him and will stay with his teammates next year and contribute. At least one of them gets what it means to be a team player.

This! I couldn't agree more. Jeremy reminds me of a former poster here named Steve Dill. Just a lying, worthless, miscreant fuck that shouldn't be allowed to be associated with the University of Montana.

Wow. What a fucking post.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
Small point. How was the decision best for Hauck and damaging for the team? I don't understand.

Me either. You'd have to ask Hauck that question.

Hauck doesn't believe that. Who are the "many" you said believe that? And why do they believe it? I assume you didn't just make this up?

How is this difficult to understand.....Jeremy comes to Hauck and asks him to sit out games, in the most important stretch of the season to extend his career at Montana.....it probably took Bobby 2 minutes to ponder these questions...

Is Jeremy a good RB? YES
Has he done everything off the field that I expect of my players? NO
Has he been performing in the classroom as I expect my players to do so? NO
Have I had to discipline him more than once for his actions off the field? YES
Has this kid really shown me anything that he deserves for me to help him out extending his career here? NO
Is he helping his team by sitting out the end of the season? NO

Easy decision, hes not worth the extra effort, hes not worth Bobby giving him special help with this, Bobby owes him nothing.

Again, how was what Hauck did good for him and bad for the team? Or, maybe you weren't addressing that point.

Personally, I think Jeremy playing the last 2 games, helping the Griz beat the Cats and get into the playoffs, and helping the team win a playoff game would have been a huge help to the team. Don't see how anything helped Hauck, other than him clearly making a statement that the coach runs the team and makes decisions like this, which is the way I always thought it was when I played college football and should be the way it is.
 
PlayerRep said:
Don't see how anything helped Hauck, other than him clearly making a statement that the coach runs the team and makes decisions like this, which is the way I always thought it was when I played college football and should be the way it is.

Exactly, it's really all that matters in coaching. Players should be motivated by knowing that the coach runs the team and it's his way or the highway. Just like it was back in '73. They don't like it they can GTFO.
 
Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
Jeremy Calhoun is a liar.

This is one hundred percent on him, his actions. I am glad his brother is nothing like him and will stay with his teammates next year and contribute. At least one of them gets what it means to be a team player.

This! I couldn't agree more. Jeremy reminds me of a former poster here named Steve Dill. Just a lying, worthless, miscreant f*** that shouldn't be allowed to be associated with the University of Montana.

Public opinion on UM players such as this is "great" for your potential student athletes/recruits. You can bet they or their parents read this forum if they are serious about going to this school. Will they ever get put on blast and dehumanized like this because of a "fans" personal opinion.
 
Tacoma5 said:
Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
Jeremy Calhoun is a liar.

This is one hundred percent on him, his actions. I am glad his brother is nothing like him and will stay with his teammates next year and contribute. At least one of them gets what it means to be a team player.

This! I couldn't agree more. Jeremy reminds me of a former poster here named Steve Dill. Just a lying, worthless, miscreant f*** that shouldn't be allowed to be associated with the University of Montana.

Public opinion on UM players such as this is "great" for your potential student athletes/recruits. You can bet they or their parents read this forum if they are serious about going to this school. Will they ever get put on blast and dehumanized like this because of a "fans" personal opinion.

Just a slight clarification, Tacoma: The above post by ursus was tongue-in-cheek, as opposed to the one by Dill, I mean Stud.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
PlayerRep said:
Don't see how anything helped Hauck, other than him clearly making a statement that the coach runs the team and makes decisions like this, which is the way I always thought it was when I played college football and should be the way it is.
Exactly, it's really all that matters in coaching. Players should be motivated by knowing that the coach runs the team and it's his way or the highway. Just like it was back in '73. They don't like it they can GTFO.
There's a whole lot that's not like it was back in '73 ... or even '93. And that is both for better and for worse. But "the buck" has to stop somewhere -- in any activity -- or absolutely nothing ever gets done. (Even if it's just a local pot-luck to greet some minor dignitary.) For a sports team, that has to be the coach, both in practical terms and in fairness. After all, it's his (or her) job on the line, even if the coach is a volunteer on a club or weekend team. He/she can take advise, listen to input (bitches and complaints, usually), etc. ... the buck should stop when the coach makes a decision. If he/she makes mostly good decisions, the team will have success (however that is defined in a particular situation). If too many bad decisions are made, someone else will soon be making those decisions.

Pretty simple, really.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Tacoma5 said:
Ursa Major said:
Griz Stud said:
Jeremy Calhoun is a liar.

This is one hundred percent on him, his actions. I am glad his brother is nothing like him and will stay with his teammates next year and contribute. At least one of them gets what it means to be a team player.

This! I couldn't agree more. Jeremy reminds me of a former poster here named Steve Dill. Just a lying, worthless, miscreant f*** that shouldn't be allowed to be associated with the University of Montana.

Public opinion on UM players such as this is "great" for your potential student athletes/recruits. You can bet they or their parents read this forum if they are serious about going to this school. Will they ever get put on blast and dehumanized like this because of a "fans" personal opinion.

Just a slight clarification, Tacoma: The above post by ursus was tongue-in-cheek, as opposed to the one by Dill, I mean Stud.

Thanks for the clarification. Possibly overlooked by other casual observers of the forum as well so glad you pointed that out!
 
IdaGriz01 said:
... the buck should stop when the coach makes a decision.

Agreed.

The only thing that's a little confusing is whether or not the coach actually made a decision about this. I mean, when asked to explain, he described it something like this: "He didn't want to play anymore, so...".

I wasn't sure if he was explaining his "decision" or implying that Calhoun had actually made the "decision."
 
AZDoc said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
Me either. You'd have to ask Hauck that question.

Hauck doesn't believe that. Who are the "many" you said believe that? And why do they believe it? I assume you didn't just make this up?

How is this difficult to understand.....Jeremy comes to Hauck and asks him to sit out games, in the most important stretch of the season to extend his career at Montana.....it probably took Bobby 2 minutes to ponder these questions...

Is Jeremy a good RB? YES
Has he done everything off the field that I expect of my players? NO
Has he been performing in the classroom as I expect my players to do so? NO
Have I had to discipline him more than once for his actions off the field? YES
Has this kid really shown me anything that he deserves for me to help him out extending his career here? NO
Is he helping his team by sitting out the end of the season? NO

Easy decision, hes not worth the extra effort, hes not worth Bobby giving him special help with this, Bobby owes him nothing.

Agree with this. Probably very close to his thought process. For the record, initially I thought it was a terrible decision, but looking at it, I'm sure he's used that scholarship in his mind already. Yes, may help next year, but someone may step up and take the position over anyway. It's good for multiple reasons as well. need to balance the scholarships, get a (sometimes/possible) distraction away from the team. Who knows, but I think it's the right call after thinking about it.

For those that know the rules, could Bobby have agreed to redshirt Jeremy but only if he was a walk on in 2019? Do the rules require a scholarship to continue?e
 
Tacoma5 said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Tacoma5 said:
Ursa Major said:
This! I couldn't agree more. Jeremy reminds me of a former poster here named Steve Dill. Just a lying, worthless, miscreant f*** that shouldn't be allowed to be associated with the University of Montana.

Public opinion on UM players such as this is "great" for your potential student athletes/recruits. You can bet they or their parents read this forum if they are serious about going to this school. Will they ever get put on blast and dehumanized like this because of a "fans" personal opinion.

Just a slight clarification, Tacoma: The above post by ursus was tongue-in-cheek, as opposed to the one by Dill, I mean Stud.

Thanks for the clarification. Possibly overlooked by other casual observers of the forum as well so glad you pointed that out!

Thanks AWF! I wholeheartedly agree with you Tacoma 5. I'm a fan of JC and not a fan of running down players. Sometimes the sarcasm gets waist deep here. I appreciate your reality check. :thumb:
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
AZDoc said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
Hauck doesn't believe that. Who are the "many" you said believe that? And why do they believe it? I assume you didn't just make this up?

How is this difficult to understand.....Jeremy comes to Hauck and asks him to sit out games, in the most important stretch of the season to extend his career at Montana.....it probably took Bobby 2 minutes to ponder these questions...

Is Jeremy a good RB? YES
Has he done everything off the field that I expect of my players? NO
Has he been performing in the classroom as I expect my players to do so? NO
Have I had to discipline him more than once for his actions off the field? YES
Has this kid really shown me anything that he deserves for me to help him out extending his career here? NO
Is he helping his team by sitting out the end of the season? NO

Easy decision, hes not worth the extra effort, hes not worth Bobby giving him special help with this, Bobby owes him nothing.

Agree with this. Probably very close to his thought process. For the record, initially I thought it was a terrible decision, but looking at it, I'm sure he's used that scholarship in his mind already. Yes, may help next year, but someone may step up and take the position over anyway. It's good for multiple reasons as well. need to balance the scholarships, get a (sometimes/possible) distraction away from the team. Who knows, but I think it's the right call after thinking about it.

For those that know the rules, could Bobby have agreed to redshirt Jeremy but only if he was a walk on in 2019? Do the rules require a scholarship to continue?e

Scholarships at the FCS level are year to year, so yes to your question. I think awarded after spring ball and by about June. Remaining scholarships are sometimes awarded later than that. Obviously, in FCS, scholarships can be partial. Again, not in FBS, I don't think.

Think FBS is now a 4/5 year commitment.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
IdaGriz01 said:
... the buck should stop when the coach makes a decision.

Agreed.

The only thing that's a little confusing is whether or not the coach actually made a decision about this. I mean, when asked to explain, he described it something like this: "He didn't want to play anymore, so...".

I wasn't sure if he was explaining his "decision" or implying that Calhoun had actually made the "decision."
The coach's focus appropriately was for the remaining two games of 2018, which JC abdicated. So pretty much "He didn't want to play anymore." Impacts game plans for both games. May have cost us the MSU game. Not in a mood after that to disrupt 2019 schollie planning which had not included JC. Work on 2019 recruits that will play when you need them.
 
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries. Bottom line is he did not play, reading some of these posts you would have thought he was Kareem Hunt. BH did what he wanted to do and more importantly has been give the power to do...time to move on. I seriously doubt JC will be an impact player next year where ever he ends up if he ends up anywhere, but if he is, more power to him.
 
retiredpopo said:
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries.

don't get in the way of kem's narrative!
 
argh! said:
retiredpopo said:
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries.
don't get in the way of kem's narrative!
Good that I'm still rent free in your mind....
 
retiredpopo said:
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries. Bottom line is he did not play, reading some of these posts you would have thought he was Kareem Hunt. BH did what he wanted to do and more importantly has been give the power to do...time to move on. I seriously doubt JC will be an impact player next year where ever he ends up if he ends up anywhere, but if he is, more power to him.

Calhoun had not fumbled once this season. He had just rushed for almost 100 yards in the prior game. He averaged 5.0 yards per carry this season. He had lost only 3 yards rushing this season. He had had very good seasons the 3 prior years. He ended up with 5 fumbles in 4 years ago UM. Why would you think what you just said.

Personally, compared to what you just said, I think it was much more likely that he would have carried for 250 yards and had 4 TD's. With no fumbles.

I won't tell what I think of your post, but it's much worse than funny.
 
For the people who want to jump on Jeremy about the fight , why aren't people looking at Justin too. The video shows justin was the one originally involved in the altercation, I'm not saying he was wrong but Jeremy was backing up his brother and it seems like he is the one who is getting the brunt of it in here. Why did Jeremy get suspended and it seems like Justin kind of got off easy. Kinda makes you go hmm...
 
argh! said:
retiredpopo said:
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries.

don't get in the way of kem's narrative!

Kem has a view. You are the one with the narrative.
 
braves84 said:
For the people who want to jump on Jeremy about the fight , why aren't people looking at Justin too. The video shows justin was the one originally involved in the altercation, I'm not saying he was wrong but Jeremy was backing up his brother and it seems like he is the one who is getting the brunt of it in here. Why did Jeremy get suspended and it seems like Justin kind of got off easy. Kinda makes you go hmm...

I see your point, but Jeremy is the one who threw the punch that broke the guy's jaw and drew the misdemeanor charge.
 
PlayerRep said:
argh! said:
retiredpopo said:
so funny that so many (not all of course) think that if JC would have played he would have had a great game and we would have beaten the cats. For all anyone knows he might have fumbled the ball more than once. He might have gotten stuffed on several carries.

don't get in the way of kem's narrative!
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Kem has a view. You are the one with the narrative.

kem uses his personal preferences to conjure situations that "would have" happened, without considering they might not have - i.e. the griz winning if calhoun plays the last two games.
 
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