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Spring Scrimmage #1 wrap up

Well if Semore can steal the signals from the O, I would think everyone else could too.
Just like NDSU in the playoffs.
 
NDSU didn't steal the Griz' plays. They saw the center tap the guards leg when he was ready to snap the ball. It's not something the Griz or any other team that used that in a loud stadium could hide, or was trying to hide. Centers have been doing it for years in notoriously loud stadiums. Go back and watch the Griz' home games from last year. EWU's center did it on every play too, and just like NDSU did to the Griz, Holmes and Critt absolutely feasted on EWU's o-line that day. South Dakota State's Center used it too, and Wash-Griz was 3/4 empty that day. The tapping the leg thing isn't a play signal, and it's not supposed to be a secret. And it's still better than getting a false start every play and backing up five yards. The main reason it hurt the Griz so bad is, NDSU's D-Line and linebackers were really f----ing good, and when you're really f---ing good, and you get a perfect jump on the snap, you're going to wreak havoc.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

So, light years ahead of last year? What's that? Slightly below average? This OL will have to prove itself come game time. Talk is talk.....

Well...if the talk is coming from the coaches, that should count for something. Very seldom would coaches make that claim unless there was evident improvement. Regardless of how much the OL struggled last year, it is a positive that they are improved and it is a good thing to hear.
 
grizturd said:
Well if Semore can steal the signals from the O, I would think everyone else could too.
Just like NDSU in the playoffs.

Lol, did you not see they part where it's mentioned that its tradition and that TY did the same thing? The DC can steal the signals because he practices against them every damn day, not because there's some sort of systemic problem with the play calls.
 
gotgame75 said:
grizturd said:
Well if Semore can steal the signals from the O, I would think everyone else could too.
Just like NDSU in the playoffs.
Lol, did you not see they part where it's mentioned that its tradition and that TY did the same thing? The DC can steal the signals because he practices against them every damn day, not because there's some sort of systemic problem with the play calls.
Not quite the same where an opposing team coach can watch game films, figure out the signals, and realize in a key playoff game that the newby coach is using the same offensive signals he has used all season. And that it is a welcome surprise to see that. Because, in his previous experiences, such as class acts as against Chadron State, such powerhouses such as Chadron State only figured that out 9 out of 15 times.

And that the observing coach wins virtually every play of the game as a result.

And that the newby coach blames the QB for the failures of the entire game.

You know, "that" game.

See the classic observation on that classic game by the classic observation by one of the resident geniuses in the classic "signature" line below.
 
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

Two things.

Even if Semore steals the O's signals, how does that translate into the defense knowing what is coming? Does Semore signal in the defensive call, and then signal in what the offense is running? Why does the defense have signals set up in advance to receive a signal of the offensive play? Yes, I understand that Semore can make a better defensive call based on an offensive signal, but I don't get how the defense would know what the play is.

Why would a DC in a scrimmage be doing this, other than very occasionally? Why/how would that help make the team better? Just doesn't seem like what a DC would do, except perhaps on rare occasion.
 
PlayerRep said:
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

Two things.

Even if Semore steals the O's signals, how does that translate into the defense knowing what is coming? Does Semore signal in the defensive call, and then signal in what the offense is running? Why does the defense have signals set up in advance to receive a signal of the offensive play? Yes, I understand that Semore can make a better defensive call based on an offensive signal, but I don't get how the defense would know what the play is.

Why would a DC in a scrimmage be doing this, other than very occasionally? Why/how would that help make the team better? Just doesn't seem like what a DC would do, except perhaps on rare occasion.

Seamen is bush league, just like coach Bob's Titts. Enjoy.
 
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.
I would assume Hart and Villanueva should see a lot of time anyway. Both highly regarded recruits at 6'5" and 320+. Not sure if they're gonna keep them at that weight or slim em down to about 3-310 but I would expect them to challange Theibes and Kelly/Todd for playing time. I would think Deitrich, Weyer, and Reese have their positions locked down. That is unless they get lazy and sloppy which I wouldn't see our O line coach allowing.
 
Is it possible that with all the new WR's that coaching staff wanted to work on the passing game a bit more in this scrimmage? Not many rushing yards. I don't know.
 
doc3kgt said:
PlayerRep said:
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

Two things.

Even if Semore steals the O's signals, how does that translate into the defense knowing what is coming? Does Semore signal in the defensive call, and then signal in what the offense is running? Why does the defense have signals set up in advance to receive a signal of the offensive play? Yes, I understand that Semore can make a better defensive call based on an offensive signal, but I don't get how the defense would know what the play is.

Why would a DC in a scrimmage be doing this, other than very occasionally? Why/how would that help make the team better? Just doesn't seem like what a DC would do, except perhaps on rare occasion.

Seamen is bush league, just like coach Bob's Titts. Enjoy.

All indications are that Semore will be good, probably very good, and maybe even terrific. Many good signs with Stitt too, but I suppose the proof will be in the pudding. I think he will be successful, even with a few ongoing hiccups here and there. I am encouraged by what is coming out of the coaching staff this winter/spring, in terms of making some improvements and changes and learning from some things that perhaps they didn't quite get right last year.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
CV Griz Fan said:
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

So, light years ahead of last year? What's that? Slightly below average? This OL will have to prove itself come game time. Talk is talk.....

Well...if the talk is coming from the coaches, that should count for something. Very seldom would coaches make that claim unless there was evident improvement. Regardless of how much the OL struggled last year, it is a positive that they are improved and it is a good thing to hear.

I agree that it's encouraging to hear coaches talking like that about the OL. As bad as the OL was last year, I'd just lean toward being more cautiously optimistic. They are still unproven and coming off of a poor season.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
brewskis said:
griz5700 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Um, that's why coach went and got Davidson @ 6'3", 295 and Osibodu @ 6'3", 270


Neither of whom is anywhere to close to Kidder. But, fingers crossed. :thumb:
Davidson just may surprise you

Could be the biggest pick-up of the recruiting season. A total need....

Not sure about that. But I hope he steps up in a big way.
 
Also, Vika Fa'atuiese is going to be a player. Reminds me of a taller, bigger JP Kanongata'a.

Linebacker position is young, deep, and talented.
 
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Yep, pretty excited about Sandry.


[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShaunRainey/status/715721098650787842[/tweet]

It takes some balls to step up and make that play. BADASS.

Great to see Calhoun finish that run strong too. But we all know he can do that.

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griz5700 said:
Also, Vika Fa'atuiese is going to be a player. Reminds me of a taller, bigger JP Kanongata'a.

Linebacker position is young, deep, and talented.

Vika looks like he is going to be a stud. He looks light and quick at 6' 3" 240. Just imagine how he's going to look in a few years! And to think that he was a late addition to the 2015 recruiting class that I believe attracted the coaches' attention just because he went to the same high school as Manu Ena. I guess we can't say that nothing positive came from the Griz receiving a commitment from Manu!
 
griz5700 said:
CV Griz Fan said:
brewskis said:
griz5700 said:
Neither of whom is anywhere to close to Kidder. But, fingers crossed. :thumb:
Davidson just may surprise you

Could be the biggest pick-up of the recruiting season. A total need....

Not sure about that. But I hope he steps up in a big way.

I agree with you that nobody knows how Davidson will pan out. But he is big and appears strong so he should demand the double team which will help the other players on the DL. The Griz have missed Tonga Takai greatly. Maybe this guy can be the proverbial run stuffer/ nose guard type that the Griz have been looking for since Takai's departure.....
 
PlayerRep said:
doc3kgt said:
PlayerRep said:
havgrizfan said:
Was told a couple of good tidbits tonight. The coaches think the OL is already light years ahead of last season, but in the same regard, there are some fierce position battles going on, with a couple of last year's RS's pushing the older guys.

Secondly, heard Semore continued the tradition that TY always did, which was to steal signals from the O, and in particular on run plays, the defense knew what was coming almost every time.

Two things.

Even if Semore steals the O's signals, how does that translate into the defense knowing what is coming? Does Semore signal in the defensive call, and then signal in what the offense is running? Why does the defense have signals set up in advance to receive a signal of the offensive play? Yes, I understand that Semore can make a better defensive call based on an offensive signal, but I don't get how the defense would know what the play is.

Why would a DC in a scrimmage be doing this, other than very occasionally? Why/how would that help make the team better? Just doesn't seem like what a DC would do, except perhaps on rare occasion.

Seamen is bush league, just like coach Bob's Titts. Enjoy.

All indications are that Semore will be good, probably very good, and maybe even terrific. Many good signs with Stitt too, but I suppose the proof will be in the pudding. I think he will be successful, even with a few ongoing hiccups here and there. I am encouraged by what is coming out of the coaching staff this winter/spring, in terms of making some improvements and changes and learning from some things that perhaps they didn't quite get right last year.

I agree. All successful people and great coaches make mistakes. What make them successful and great is learning from their mistakes. I'm anxious to see those mistakes minimized going forward.
 
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