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It's been clear from early on in this debacle that Vigen wants to help these men get better. Unfortunately that just doesn't work in today's tar and feather cancel hungry culture. We shall see if it becomes his undoing. Handling it internally doesn't work with the angry mob.
 
EverettGriz said:
What an absolutely disgraceful shitshow going on over there in Boozeman. They could have eliminated all of this an actually appeared as a university who cares about morality simply by suspending these ass clowns.

At this point, they've shit the bed, then decided to walk in it, and now they're tracking it all over their carpeting.

I think this is exactly right, EG. They know they totally fucked up with Threepeat and weren't banking on the OC and RB coach being involved in a DUI crash coverup scheme involving a state vehicle mere months later. So, then they develop a new "policy" to not take any action and pay them with new contracts until the legal system plays out. Now, they have to adhere to that policy no matter what crime any coach or employee gets arrested for in the future.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Good to hear that they take charges like dui’s of their coordinators seriously.

But is this being prudent and patient, like Poor says.

I think MSU is finally feeling some heat.

I'm talking about bring prudent and patient in terms of firing or suspending the coaches based on the allegations. Making statements about it... whatever. I don't know if Vigen's statements today helped or hurt the situation, nor do I know why he didn't make more statements like this a long time ago... and if that would have helped anything or not? But at any rate - griz nation definitely needs to keep obsessing on this, please don't stop.
 
poorgriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
Good to hear that they take charges like dui’s of their coordinators seriously.

But is this being prudent and patient, like Poor says.

I think MSU is finally feeling some heat.

I'm talking about bring prudent and patient in terms of firing or suspending the coaches based on the allegations. Making statements about it... whatever. I don't know if Vigen's statements today helped or hurt the situation, nor do I know why he didn't make more statements like this a long time ago... and if that would have helped anything or not? But at any rate - griz nation definitely needs to keep obsessing on this, please don't stop.

Just gotta be patient and prudent enough to get through this season. Get the buy-in from prosecutors and media, and all will be well. MSU cannot afford to have its DC potentially serve a jail term during the season. If any trials or plea deals get pushed to January, that would be the best-case scenario for MSU.
 
CatzWillRise said:
It's been clear from early on in this debacle that Vigen wants to help these men get better. Unfortunately that just doesn't work in today's tar and feather cancel hungry culture. We shall see if it becomes his undoing. Handling it internally doesn't work with the angry mob.

Help them get better at drinking and driving or get better at covering up a crime by using perceived employment power dynamic to coerce a subordinate to tamper with evidence/obstruct an investigation? I’m sure both have admitted to having substance abuse issues in effort to save their jobs. But to crash a car while drunk and not call the head coach, and instead involve another coach and put his job at risk…that’s some next level shit there. Either he was drunk and not thinking correctly or he was thinking correctly like someone with prior experience in cover ups.
 
CatzWillRise said:
It's been clear from early on in this debacle that Vigen wants to help these men get better. Unfortunately that just doesn't work in today's tar and feather cancel hungry culture. We shall see if it becomes his undoing. Handling it internally doesn't work with the angry mob.

Sixx wants to really show Threepeat that he means business by giving him a raise as a reward for his third arrest for the same crime? That should help. Tough love.
 
grizfnz said:
CatzWillRise said:
It's been clear from early on in this debacle that Vigen wants to help these men get better. Unfortunately that just doesn't work in today's tar and feather cancel hungry culture. We shall see if it becomes his undoing. Handling it internally doesn't work with the angry mob.

Help them get better at drinking and driving or get better at covering up a crime by using perceived employment power dynamic to coerce a subordinate to tamper with evidence/obstruct an investigation? I’m sure both have admitted to having substance abuse issues in effort to save their jobs. But to crash a car while drunk and not call the head coach, and instead involve another coach and put his job at risk…that’s some next level shit there. Either he was drunk and not thinking correctly or he was thinking correctly like someone with prior experience in cover ups.

Good points. I'm still not ruling out the possibility that he DID call the HC, and the HC delegated. Just speculation; not presented as a factual statement. It would explain a lot, though.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
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I was talking about Garza's charges since his case was from November, thus the discussion about speedy trial waiver.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big...cle_ef858058-06de-11ee-9060-9bd68db62f21.html
"Garza has a Gallatin County Justice Court hearing scheduled for June 28, while Housewright and running backs coach Sam Mix — who was cited for multiple violations on the night of Housewright’s DUI charge — are both scheduled to appear in court on Aug. 9. Garza, Housewright and Mix have pleaded not guilty, per court records." (emphasis added).

My apologies, I heard it was in city court and the other two were Justice Court.

Not sure who said it, but I can assure you 15 years ago these same Griz fans would have been calling for their jobs and been as opinionated as they are now had been handled the same way. The only difference is 15 years ago msu would have actually fired them or encouraged their resignation. msu instead is keeping them around because they are actually good for the first time in 15 years, and they don't want to break the streak. See, I can play the 15 year game too.

I 100% agree about the very small contingent Griz fanbase that is on here, egriz, the official fan board for the Montana Grizzlies, upset about the situation and how it's being handled. It's almost as if this site is being utilized for something other than it was created....to provide opinions about their team and, wait for it, their rivals. Truly mind-blowing....what it mind-blowing is that a very successful and talented personality, who provides great coverage for Montana sports, has taken to heart what is being said here. Colter didn't need to do a podcast about the issue, but since he did, saying Griz fans have a "loser mentality" is kind of below-the-belt considering many of them are your listeners. Whether or not the statement was warranted, caving into the pressure of such a small contingent (I want to say there has to be about 15 or so Griz fans that have carried this as far as it is) is beyond me and not the professional response expected by him. You're better than that, Colter, so much better.
 
CatzWillRise said:
It's been clear from early on in this debacle that Vigen wants to help these men get better. Unfortunately that just doesn't work in today's tar and feather cancel hungry culture. We shall see if it becomes his undoing. Handling it internally doesn't work with the angry mob.

You want to make them better? Treat them like men and hold them accountable.
 
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Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:39 pm

Governors don't get involved in assistant coach dui's and shouldn't..

I'm sorry but you are absolutely incorrect there. Governors get involved in what ever issues they want to and if those issues are percieved as politically damaging they will be on it like stink on s h i t. I saw it more than once in my 27 years with the state. Now if this gets to be a dicey issue for him in the future he may get involved and those 2/3 idiots will be gone sooner than later. But clearly your Governor doesn't percieve this as damaging at present. If he doesn't, if the BOR doesn't, then why would the MSU administration? So we kind of get back to the Colter/Skyline interpretation that this is just a bunch of self righteous rabble-rousing egriz making noise who don't really give a s h i t about the DUI issue. If that isn't the case then you know the Governor, he's been to the lake house you have said, so give him a call if it is really that important to you. Telll him he will start losing the Moms against Drunk Driving crowd and your friends CDA and Gariz, and many others are really pissed and won't vote for him next time. Then I just might believe that this is more important to you and the other ring leaders here than just bashing the Cat athletic program and the MSU administration and hoping that losing staff will give the Griz a better chance in November. Otherwise just let it play out which will almost certainly result in at least one, and probably two being released after the season. I'll end where I started. When you have a guy with 4 indictments on 91 felony counts leading his competitors by far for one partiy's presidential nomination it is clear that in America 2023, allegedly committing crimes and then lying about it, just isn't that big a deal,
 
mthoopsfan said:
Good to hear that they take charges like dui’s of their coordinators seriously.

But is this being prudent and patient, like Poor says.

I think MSU is finally feeling some heat.

MSdUi says nothing, media(joke)say nothing, defense and prosecution say nothing. What's missing? Donors? BOR/Commish? NCAA involvement? I know NCAA has been informed of events. Could they be shaking the tree? Hmm.

As many have said, MSdUi made their own problems.
 
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mthoopsfan
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Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:39 pm

Governors don't get involved in assistant coach dui's and shouldn't..

I'm sorry but you are absolutely incorrect there. Governors get involved in what ever issues they want to and if those issues are percieved as politically damaging they will be on it like stink on s h i t. I saw it more than once in my 27 years with the state. Now if this gets to be a dicey issue for him in the future he may get involved and those 2/3 idiots will be gone sooner than later. But clearly your Governor doesn't percieve this as damaging at present. If he doesn't, if the BOR doesn't, then why would the MSU administration? So we kind of get back to the Colter/Skyline interpretation that this is just a bunch of self righteous rabble-rousing egriz making noise who don't really give a s h i t about the DUI issue. If that isn't the case then you know the Governor, he's been to the lake house you have said, so give him a call if it is really that important to you. Telll him he will start losing the Moms against Drunk Driving crowd and your friends CDA and Gariz, and many others are really pissed and won't vote for him next time. Then I just might believe that this is more important to you and the other ring leaders here than just bashing the Cat athletic program and the MSU administration and hoping that losing staff will give the Griz a better chance in November. Otherwise just let it play out which will almost certainly result in at least one, and probably two being released after the season. I'll end where I started. When you have a guy with 4 indictments on 91 felunts leading his competitors by far for one partiy's presidential nomination it is clear that in America 2023, allegedly committing crimes and then lying about it, just isn't that big a deal,

You don't know what you are talking about. Feel free to name any situation where a Gov. got involved with an assistant coach charged with a DUI. Don't just give us your garbage. Name names. Links. It isn't damaging to the MT Gov. in the least. I wonder if he's even aware of the situation.
 
Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:34 pm

sdk.catfish wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:42 pm
mthoopsfan
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You don't know what you are talking about. Feel free to name any situation where a Gov. got involved with an assistant coach charged with a DUI. Don't just give us your garbage. Name names. Links;

Too use your own words, which I hate to because they are demeaning, you are an idiot. I'm not specifically talking about assitant coaches being charged with DUI. I'm talking about situations that could trigger political repercussions. Any situation and not football specific. And if you don't think that Governors don't step in and take action with individuals that could cause them political harm then you are living in an alternative reality.
If your Governor thought this to be a problem to his political future then it never would have got where it is right now. If you think it does impact his political future, because you two are buds, then please give him a call and inform egriz the results. Just go to the root of the problem and not MSU coaches or administration because if you don't think they are being advised by the Governor and the BOR then you are well, you know an .................
 
COACH SIXX said:
I do want to make it clear in supporting these men, we are not dismissing the charges. We are simply showing them we believe in them and want to continue to have them work within this program because of who they are as people.
This is nonsense. Have you ever read a more confusing combination of jibberish?

Seems like Ole Sixxer would have been better off scratching those two sentences from the pre-written statement.

Can’t believe he would say support or want them to continue. Married for life now. Might as well have got down on one knee and proposed to his coordinators.

Why use the phrase “not dismissing the charges.” No shit?
The head ball coach can’t just dismiss them?

So dumb and confusing there’s no way an attorney wrote it. No fucking way.

“Gonna”.
Good grief.
 
:lol: :clap: :lol: :lol:

This is so fucking hilarious on sooooo many levels.

I can’t stop chuckling.

50 years from now, I’m going to say, “Do you remember when the bubcatz sent out that dweeb from North Dakota to read five sentences from a pre-written statement about pending criminal charges against both of his out-of-state coordinators and he couldn’t do it without looking down, stuttering and stammering?!?!”

Forget what he said. Dude can’t even read. And he had months to practice.

:lol: :lol: Begs the question, was he drunk or just from ND?
 
garizzalies said:
COACH SIXX said:
I do want to make it clear in supporting these men, we are not dismissing the charges. We are simply showing them we believe in them and want to continue to have them work within this program because of who they are as people.
This is nonsense. Have you ever read a more confusing combination of jibberish?

Seems like Ole Sixxer would have been better off scratching those two sentences from the pre-written statement.

Can’t believe he would say support or want them to continue. Married for life now. Might as well have got down on one knee and proposed to his coordinators.

Why use the phrase “not dismissing the charges.” No shit?
The head ball coach can’t just dismiss them?

So dumb and confusing there’s no way an attorney wrote it. No fucking way.

“Gonna”.
Good grief.

To be fair to Coach Sixx, it appears he’s just a puppet for the administration in all of this. He has shown that he heads nothing and is powerless.
 
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