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[bigsky33]

Yes, they were CHARGED. Does anyone on here know all the facts? Lots of people get charged but then the facts show that the charges were wrong. Not saying that this is the case in these charges. However, that is still to be determined.

Charged and contract extensions and raises...do you dispute those facts?

Yes, I agree with you. They were charged and got extensions and raises. Still, we do not know the facts that led to these decisions. Yes, sounds not good but facts are what is really important.

 

[Griz Addict]

Hmm weird how it was vacated... struck a deal to sweep it under the rug. Hopeful people won't be thinking about it anymore and accept the fate of MSU, which is everything will continue as normal.

They just got raises, nothing is going to happen.

Does anyone on here really know all the facts in this case first hand? I doubt it. All speculation.

2 cat coaches got duis in consecutive months. That's a fact. What other facts do we need to know? That you're a dipshit? We already know that.

 

[bigsky33]

Does anyone on here really know all the facts in this case first hand? I doubt it. All speculation.

2 cat coaches got duis in consecutive months. That's a fact. What other facts do we need to know? That you're a poop? We already know that.

Yes, like I said., they were CHARGED with a DUI. They have not been convicted. We do not know all the facts in each case. People get charged with violations and crimes every day.. And, many, after the facts come out in a trial, are exonerated. I am not saying these guys are innocent. I am just saying that we do not know all the facts and they have not been found guilty of anything yet.

 

[garizzalies]

I run two content production businesses. My primary role for each is to provide commentary and analysis on the wide world of Montana and Big Sky Conference sports. We do not report the news. We analyze the news.

We have talked about the DUIs and their influence on the future of the Montana State football team no less than 6 times on our statewide radio/TV shows and we have mentioned it several times on the Big Sky Breakdown podcast as well.

I could write a whole essay about why this is getting covered like it is. The procedures in the courts between Missoula County and Gallatin County are vastly different. The way the newspapers operate is totally different. The disparity in the quality of the TV reporters between the two markets is striking. If you’d like me to write that essay, ask and I’ll share my thoughts.

If what you want is for me to give some verbal lashing to these two poor decision makers, that’s not what we do. We analyze sports. We will analyze the way impacts the football program extensively once a decision is made by the administration and athletic department whether it’s to keep or dismiss the accused.

To make this issue somehow about me is really something. Thanks for making me feel so good about myself.

Fuck yes. Let’s hear it. Let’s hear your thoughts and your “essay”. Put pen to paper.

Sorry you got your feelings hurt by some jackass in a satirical thread on an anonymous fan message board. Don’t like it? Write an article, and prove me wrong, or continue to pout like a little girl and prove my point.

Called you out because you are supposedly the best sports writer in the state but you are admittedly avoiding the biggest sports story in the state. Wtf? What are you writing about right now? What else could possibly be more important to “analyze” for MT sports at this time in the offseason? Couldn’t you “analyze” the timing of the new vacated hearing bumping up into Fall camp now?

Don’t want to tongue lash the drunk coordinators for their bad “decisions”? Fine. Go after that ridiculous admin decision. Hell, your post is a prelude to an expose. There’s a million stories here. What are you waiting for?

Let me guess, “due-process”? So that by the time all the facts come out, we can sweep this under the rug, amirite?

You are either part of the problem or part of the cover up? Don’t like that? Prove me wrong with an article. Or anything in writing. You talking to yourself “6 times” means nothing to the state of MT.

You sound like every bubcat I know. Flores had to be poked by someone here but at least he had the cojones to tweet about the status of the so called “due-process”. Craziest thing I’ve ever heard: we have to wait for “due-process” and we cannot even talk about the “due-process” until after the “due-process”.

 

[garizzalies]

Does anyone on here really know all the facts in this case first hand?

Does anyone on here know all the facts?

Good questions. What does the arrest report say? Why aren’t there any news stories on this? How is it months later and we still don’t know this stuff?

Everyone knows if this crap happened in Missoula it would be covered different. Our local sports “journalist” essentially just admitted as much—that was my interpretation at least. So why does bozo get a pass? Why would Bozo in particular want to go soft on DUIs with its horrible, national record? Are all bubs dui apologists?

Too bad we don’t have a sports journalist in MT with a company dedicated to covering the sports stories in MT. Oh wait, he can’t do it because of reasons

Zzzzzzz

 

[bigsky33]

Does anyone on here really know all the facts in this case first hand?

Does anyone on here know all the facts?

Good questions. What does the arrest report say? Why aren’t there any news stories on this? How is it months later and we still don’t know this stuff?

Everyone knows if this crap happened in Missoula it would be covered different. Our local sports “journalist” essentially just admitted as much. Why does bozo get a pass? Why would Bozo in particular want to go soft on DUIs with its horrible, national record? Are all bubs dui apologists?

Too bad we don’t have a sports journalist in MT with a company dedicated to covering the sports stories in MT. Oh wait, he can’t do it because of reasons

Zzzzzzz

Do arrest reports mean a person is guilty? NOT. Once cases go to court and the facts come out, arrest reports are sometimes found not to be valid.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Facts are coaches got charged with DUIs got contract extensions and raises.

Do you dispute those facts?

Yes, they were CHARGED. Does anyone on here know all the facts? Lots of people get charged but then the facts show that the charges were wrong. Not saying that this is the case in these charges. However, that is still to be determined.

It’s not like it was numero uno DUI for this ass hat. It was #3! He got pulled over going 60 mph down 19th ave and wreaked of alcohol. He refused all tests so was drug into the ER for a test, where he puked all over and assaulted a nurse. He could have killed someone on 19th Ave at that rate of speed. He has been fired from 2-3 other program for shit like this. This ass tard doesn’t get the benefit of any facts he has fucked up way too many times. And your school and admin pretend like it’s nothing and give the alcoholic who desperately needs major help a new contract and a raise. Wipe your ass with this “do we know the facts” bullshit.

 

[bigsky33]

Yes, they were CHARGED. Does anyone on here know all the facts? Lots of people get charged but then the facts show that the charges were wrong. Not saying that this is the case in these charges. However, that is still to be determined.

It’s not like it was numero uno DUI for this ass hat. It was #3! He got pulled over going 60 mph down 19th ave and wreaked of alcohol. He refused all tests so was drug into the ER for a test, where he puked all over and assaulted a nurse. He could have killed someone on 19th Ave at that rate of speed. He has been fired from 2-3 other program for poop like this. This ass tard doesn’t get the benefit of any facts he has fudge up way too many times. And your school and admin pretend like it’s nothing and give the alcoholic who desperately needs major help a new contract and a raise. Wipe your ass with this “do we know the facts” poop.

Hooked, all that you say could be correct. However, do you know that all you are stating on here is factual or are you going by a news report? Yes, facts are known about his background and prior DUIs. But, in this particular case,, do we know all the facts first hand? I don’t think so. Was he charged with assault on a nurse? Have not seen that. My point is, like anyone, he is innocent in this case until in court he is proven guilty. I agree it does not look good for him, but he gets his day in court. If guilty then he should be fired.

 

[garizzalies]

Once cases go to court and the facts come out, arrest reports are sometimes found not to be valid.

Is that what you’re going with?
There’s a possibility the arrest report could be incorrect so we should bury it and not talk about it before anyone covers it? Maybe the tow truck driver was lying too, huh?

Why do all bubcats want to cover this up and excuse DUIs. If I were a bubcat (puke), I would be asking the same questions because I live in this community and would want to shine a light on this disgusting mess.

 

[bigsky33]

Once cases go to court and the facts come out, arrest reports are sometimes found not to be valid.

Is that what you’re going with?
There’s a possibility the arrest report could be incorrect so we should bury it and not talk about it before anyone covers it? Maybe the tow truck driver was lying too, huh?

Why do all bubcats want to cover this up and excuse DUIs. If I were a bubcat (puke), I would be asking the same questions because I live in this community and would want to shine a light on this disgusting mess.

I am not going with anything. I am waiting until he gets his day in court and there is a verdict. Not excusing him or any type of coverup. If he is found guilty I hope he gets fired.

 

[garizzalies]

I am waiting until he gets his day in court and there is a verdict.

What if there is no verdict?

 

[ilovethecats]

Yes, they were CHARGED. Does anyone on here know all the facts? Lots of people get charged but then the facts show that the charges were wrong. Not saying that this is the case in these charges. However, that is still to be determined.

It’s not like it was numero uno DUI for this ass hat. It was #3! He got pulled over going 60 mph down 19th ave and wreaked of alcohol. He refused all tests so was drug into the ER for a test, where he puked all over and assaulted a nurse. He could have killed someone on 19th Ave at that rate of speed. He has been fired from 2-3 other program for poop like this. This ass tard doesn’t get the benefit of any facts he has fudge up way too many times. And your school and admin pretend like it’s nothing and give the alcoholic who desperately needs major help a new contract and a raise. Wipe your ass with this “do we know the facts” poop.

Not to get in this pissing match, but this is a good example of how things can really get blurry when everyone thinks they know everything about a matter none of them know about.

He wasn’t going 60 down 19th. Though many people do go 60 down 19th, it’s likely not while intoxicated.

He was pulled over going 45 near Main Street and Rouse. Again, many people do, but hopefully not while intoxicated.

I’m not making a point one way or another. I’ve given my opinion and don’t like the situation. But like the game of telephone, it’s interesting to see people just run with things that aren’t facts.

This isn’t directed at you hooked. You’re a good poster. I just find this whole situation disturbing in real life, and comical on a message board. It’s obnoxious really. Which makes me even more annoyed a coach would even put himself, his peers, and his players in this situation.

 

[SaskGriz]

It’s not like it was numero uno DUI for this ass hat. It was #3! He got pulled over going 60 mph down 19th ave and wreaked of alcohol. He refused all tests so was drug into the ER for a test, where he puked all over and assaulted a nurse. He could have killed someone on 19th Ave at that rate of speed. He has been fired from 2-3 other program for poop like this. This ass tard doesn’t get the benefit of any facts he has fudge up way too many times. And your school and admin pretend like it’s nothing and give the alcoholic who desperately needs major help a new contract and a raise. Wipe your ass with this “do we know the facts” poop.

Hooked, all that you say could be correct. However, do you know that all you are stating on here is factual or are you going by a news report? Yes, facts are known about his background and prior DUIs. But, in this particular case,, do we know all the facts first hand? I don’t think so. Was he charged with assault on a nurse? Have not seen that. My point is, like anyone, he is innocent in this case until in court he is proven guilty. I agree it does not look good for him, but he gets his day in court. If guilty then he should be fired.

First hand does not mean what you think it does. The drunken coaches are the only ones who know the facts first hand, the cops only know the facts of the arrest first hand and try to figure out the rest. The courts, the media, Egriz; we are all getting it at least second hand if not further down the chain. That doesn't change the responsibility of the people with the power to get closer to the truth to try to supply the answers.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Does anyone on here really know all the facts in this case first hand?

Does anyone on here know all the facts?

Good questions. What does the arrest report say? Why aren’t there any news stories on this? How is it months later and we still don’t know this stuff?

Everyone knows if this crap happened in Missoula it would be covered different. Our local sports “journalist” essentially just admitted as much—that was my interpretation at least. So why does bozo get a pass? Why would Bozo in particular want to go soft on DUIs with its horrible, national record? Are all bubs dui apologists?

Too bad we don’t have a sports journalist in MT with a company dedicated to covering the sports stories in MT. Oh wait, he can’t do it because of reasons

OK, let me help the uninformed.

Try reading 44-5-303, MCA in conjunction with 44-5-103(6)(a), MCA and the mystery just might unravel before your eyes.

Hint, unless the "journalists" can get the drunks to talk, you will have to wait for the details in public court filings, at trial or at sentencing.

 

[81Hog]

OK, let me help the uniformed.

Try reading 44-5-303, MCA in conjunction with 44-5-103(6)(a), MCA and the mystery just might unravel before your eyes.

Hint, unless the "journalists" can get the drunks to talk, you will have to wait for the details in public court filings, at trial or at sentencing.

Bingo! CCJI isn’t just handed out.

 

[SoldierGriz]

OK, let me help the uniformed.

Try reading 44-5-303, MCA in conjunction with 44-5-103(6)(a), MCA and the mystery just might unravel before your eyes.

Hint, unless the "journalists" can get the drunks to talk, you will have to wait for the details in public court filings, at trial or at sentencing.

Bingo! CCJI isn’t just handed out.

D1 head football coaches benching anyone associated with their programs for these kinds of infractions don't need some fancy code. They just do it. See Garza's previous stints...and dozens upon dozens of other examples.

I'd just like Colter to ask the HC why these coaches aren't on the bench. What or who is restraining him and why?

Colter: coach, did you consider putting these coaches on the bench...just telling them to stay home with pay until the process is complete? Why / why not?

I'd also like some analysis on why there is so much variance between what we all commonly see across D1 sports when coaches get DUIs and what is happening in bozo.

Colter: coach, Is this process at msu similar or different than other places you've been? If so, how?

Colter: what was the process of extending contracts and giving raises while all of this is going on? Did anyone recommend delaying those decisions? Did you?

 

[markson161]

It’s not like it was numero uno DUI for this ass hat. It was #3! He got pulled over going 60 mph down 19th ave and wreaked of alcohol. He refused all tests so was drug into the ER for a test, where he puked all over and assaulted a nurse. He could have killed someone on 19th Ave at that rate of speed. He has been fired from 2-3 other program for poop like this. This ass tard doesn’t get the benefit of any facts he has fudge up way too many times. And your school and admin pretend like it’s nothing and give the alcoholic who desperately needs major help a new contract and a raise. Wipe your ass with this “do we know the facts” poop.

Not to get in this pissing match, but this is a good example of how things can really get blurry when everyone thinks they know everything about a matter none of them know about.

He wasn’t going 60 down 19th. Though many people do go 60 down 19th, it’s likely not while intoxicated.

He was pulled over going 45 near Main Street and Rouse. Again, many people do, but hopefully not while intoxicated.

I’m not making a point one way or another. I’ve given my opinion and don’t like the situation. But like the game of telephone, it’s interesting to see people just run with things that aren’t facts.

This isn’t directed at you hooked. You’re a good poster. I just find this whole situation disturbing in real life, and comical on a message board. It’s obnoxious really. Which makes me even more annoyed a coach would even put himself, his peers, and his players in this situation.

Apparently nothing to get concerned about, looks like common place on the streets of Bozeman.

 

[garizzalies]

OK, let me help the uniformed.

Try reading 44-5-303, MCA in conjunction with 44-5-103(6)(a), MCA and the mystery just might unravel before your eyes.

Hint, unless the "journalists" can get the drunks to talk, you will have to wait for the details in public court filings, at trial or at sentencing.

Bingo! CCJI isn’t just handed out.

Huh. So you’re saying we need a journalist to do some work, someone who is willing to put forth the minimal effort required, and ask a few questions? If only there were such a company covering sports stories in bozo.

It’s not sealed so couldn’t someone just go to the courthouse and the open hearings? Or do a FOIA?

Too bad this didn’t happen in Missoula. Our local sports analyst would’ve been on it like flies on shit—that’s my interpretation of his post, you can draw your own.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Bingo! CCJI isn’t just handed out.

Huh. So you’re saying we need a journalist to do some work, someone who is willing to put forth the minimal effort required, and ask a few questions? If only there were such a company covering sports stories in bozo.

It’s not sealed so couldn’t someone just go to the courthouse and the open hearings? Or do a FOIA?

Too bad this didn’t happen in Missoula. Our local sports analyst would’ve been on it like flies on poop—that’s my interpretation of his post, you can draw your own.

Look, anyone can go to the courthouse and look at the JC file. All it might have are copies of the citations, appearances of counsel, requests for discovery and court notices, along with the docket sheet. It may have a probable cause statement, it may not if so stipulated by the parties, or it may be filed under seal to be made public, perhaps at a later date. That's if you want the FACTS OF THE CASE which is what I was addressing.

Given that the "due process" stonewall from cow dung U, the minimal effort you suggest for journalists to pursue the issue of ramifications to coaches has already shut down that avenue of pursuit, your suggestion to act like flies on poop its essentially a useless exercise, unless you think the administration is weak and will cave if you just keep asking the same question (like Engstrom).

Overall I'm not impressed with sports coverage of college football in this state, but I think you are a little off base here IMHO.

 

[bigsky33]

Bingo! CCJI isn’t just handed out.

D1 head football coaches benching anyone associated with their programs for these kinds of infractions don't need some fancy code. They just do it. See Garza's previous stints...and dozens upon dozens of other examples.

I'd just like Colter to ask the HC why these coaches aren't on the bench. What or who is restraining him and why?

Colter: coach, did you consider putting these coaches on the bench...just telling them to stay home with pay until the process is complete? Why / why not?

I'd also like some analysis on why there is so much variance between what we all commonly see across D1 sports when coaches get DUIs and what is happening in bozo.

Colter: coach, Is this process at msu similar or different than other places you've been? If so, how?

Colter: what was the process of extending contracts and giving raises while all of this is going on? Did anyone recommend delaying those decisions? Did you?

I don't think Colter will get any answers as the school already stated that they do not comment on employee matters. Very frustrating I know.