Reese is coming

[AZGrizFan]

So a very good Coastal team beat UM by 7, with UM outgaining Coastal 557 yards to 476, and you think that loss is "beyond humiliation" and "handing the Griz their arses"? Hum, get we'll have to disagree on that one. UM just had a terrible last 6.5 minutes of the 2d quarter, when they gave up 3 TD's.

Contrast to the 2015 Cal Poly game, a loss at home. "We never lose in our house" -- Sttit had just boldly announced after the NDSU game -- leading to some amusement after Cal Poly, "Who's "We" Kemosabe?"

UM put up 459 yds of offense (mostly passing) to 386 yds for Cal Poly (mostly on the ground), while UM managed three fumbles and three interceptions on the way to the all-important 92 plays, while failing to convert any of the three fourth down attempts. That handed Cal Poly one of just three conference wins the entire season (.375), while Cal Poly scored third worst in the conference in scoring defense and barely nudged out by NAU as the absolute worst in the conference in passing defense. Losing to Coastal Carolina is someone complaining about?

Our Defense did keep Cal to 20 points, compared to their season average of 34 points, so there was that ....

On the other hand, that 2013 Second Round run by UM against Coastal Carolina was a 42-35 loss at home but in 2013 as with 2014, CC was in the finals against NDSU.

Compared to losing to Cal Poly, "at home," it was "far from humiliation" whereas the loss this year to Cal Poly ... is the definition of "humiliation."

How about you contrast it to when a Delaney-coached team lost to Cal Poly by TWENTY? :roll:

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Correct, you seldom add anything of value to the football threads. You spend most of your time taking potshots at other posters, like you have doing recently with spysk. In my experience, posters that spend time picking at other posters usually don't have anything of substance to provide and don't understand the game. Sorry that you're jealous that I have been pretty good friends with a number of the Griz coaches over the years. Just another example of your inability to provide much, if anything, of substance on the board. Just pick at or attack other posters.

Really....asking spysk questions about his views is taking a pot shot...and you know nothing about my understanding or background....and as for you being a pompous ass....just calling them like I see them....just like you do....

Says the guy who has spent his last two posts trying to make me look stupid for saying an FCS school would get handled by the week to week SEC schedule...and that Stitts first year was a success....

You must be an "everyone gets a ribbon" kind of guy, and thus you think that no should be able to disagree or challenge your posts, or comment on them. What a baby.

Quite the opposite..I'm a huge supporter in the way Stitt has handled the schollie situation, something many posters are not happy about...I would be ok with damn near anything it takes to win a champiosnhip...I called you out for trying to spin any negativity on a very succesful first season.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Except went to the playoffs his first year as coach and beat the reigning national champions, and also beat EWU and MSU in the process. Also is in the process of landing a top 10 FCS recruiting class. No big deal.

He also was humiliated by that same NC team in the playoffs, 6 yards rushing along with 6 points, went two deep into the playoffs, same as the position coach he replaced, with the win over EWU the only exception,and its only in your perception of landing a top 10 FCS recruiting class, we don't have any hand measurements as of yet how can there be a rating, without athletes ever playing in a game.

One more thing, a first year head coach, was named "Coach of the Year" taking a team that didn't do anything for years, and that is a Big Deal.

Oh, beating the NC team with and OL in the first game of the season, then in a rematch in the playoffs, with the same OL getting creamed, with his offensive innovation, and genius.

One more thing that position coach, without any innovation let alone no genius at all, never got humiliated as bad as the genius that replaced him.

Some one may have touched on this, but I haven't scrolled as far so forgive me if this is duplicative...


In the first year of MD there was no playoff and for the first time since 1985 no winning season. So it's not clear why you're so quick to make that the basis of your anti-Stitt position...

With respect to the "never got humiliated" I would respectfully disagree. In MD's 2nd year the playoff loss to Coastal Carolina was beyond humiliation. A team from South Carolina came into a sub-zero Washington-Grizzly and handed the Griz their collective arses and ended the careers of Tripp and Coyle in the process.

If that wasn't humiliation, I don't know what was.

So a very good Coastal team beat UM by 7, with UM outgaining Coastal 557 yards to 476, and you think that loss is "beyond humiliation" and "handing the Griz their arses"? Hum, get we'll have to disagree on that one. UM just had a terrible last 6.5 minutes of the 2d quarter, when they gave up 3 TD's.

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

 

[UMGriz75]

How about you contrast it to when a Delaney-coached team lost to Cal Poly by TWENTY? :roll:

Well, we could, but then what? How does that compare with a Stitt-coached game against NDSU, a Stitt-coached game against Cal Poly, then Liberty, etc, and a Stitt-coached game against NDSU when Griz lost by, you know, THIRTY ONE?

2014, UM v Cal Poly at Cal Poly Delaney-coached team lost 41-21. Defense clearly lost control on that game.

In 2014, Cal Poly ended the season 2nd in total offense in the Big Sky, 1st in rushing offense, fourth in rushing defense, and first in fourth down conversions. Cal (5-3) placed just behind Montana (6-2).

We also could talk about 2013 UM v Cal Poly at UM, "a" Delaney-coached team won 21-14. You know, that "Winning in Our House" stuff ... firing on both offensive and defensive cylinders ...

At least when Delaney lost to Cal Poly, Cal Poly was fielding a football team. When Stitt lost to them, they weren't.

The fact is, trying to claim that a Playoff loss to Coastal Carolina by a small margin is a "humiliation" under Delaney, but that a second regular season game loss to a conference doormat under Stitt is ... comparable, just isn't.

Delaney had the good sense in 2014 and the loss at Cal Poly, to not claim "We Never Lose In Their House!"

 

[UMGriz75]

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

Not going to play that game of, "so what you are really saying is ...".

My words express my opinion on the comment previously made, not the ones you want me to say, nor about a comment that wasn't made. The subject, if you will remedially read, was whether the "Coastal Carolina" game was a "humiliation" compared to .... current season examples.

It wasn't.

 

[get'em_griz]

How about you contrast it to when a Delaney-coached team lost to Cal Poly by TWENTY? :roll:

The fact is, trying to claim that a Playoff loss to Coastal Carolina by a small margin is a "humiliation" under Delaney, but that a second regular season game loss to a conference doormat under Stitt is ... comparable, just isn't.

Delaney had the good sense in 2014 and the loss at Cal Poly, to not claim "We Never Lose In Their House!"

:lol: Really? Delaney lost his playoff game to Coastal Carolina AT HOME when conditions were highly favorable in our favor. Stitt lost his playoff game to NDSU on the road at a place where NOBODY has beaten NDSU in 15 tries. NOBODY. And yet, he still was able to beat that same NDSU team to start the season, one of only 5 teams to do so in 5 years.

 

[PlayerRep]

Really....asking spysk questions about his views is taking a pot shot...and you know nothing about my understanding or background....and as for you being a pompous ass....just calling them like I see them....just like you do....

Says the guy who has spent his last two posts trying to make me look stupid for saying an FCS school would get handled by the week to week SEC schedule...and that Stitts first year was a success....

You must be an "everyone gets a ribbon" kind of guy, and thus you think that no should be able to disagree or challenge your posts, or comment on them. What a baby.

Quite the opposite..I'm a huge supporter in the way Stitt has handled the schollie situation, something many posters are not happy about...I would be ok with damn near anything it takes to win a champiosnhip...I called you out for trying to spin any negativity on a very succesful first season.

No, I'm talking about you and your posts. When anyone questions your posts, you start crying like a baby. I assumed you wanted a ribbon for all of your posts.

 

[PlayerRep]

He also was humiliated by that same NC team in the playoffs, 6 yards rushing along with 6 points, went two deep into the playoffs, same as the position coach he replaced, with the win over EWU the only exception,and its only in your perception of landing a top 10 FCS recruiting class, we don't have any hand measurements as of yet how can there be a rating, without athletes ever playing in a game.

One more thing, a first year head coach, was named "Coach of the Year" taking a team that didn't do anything for years, and that is a Big Deal.

Oh, beating the NC team with and OL in the first game of the season, then in a rematch in the playoffs, with the same OL getting creamed, with his offensive innovation, and genius.

One more thing that position coach, without any innovation let alone no genius at all, never got humiliated as bad as the genius that replaced him.

Some one may have touched on this, but I haven't scrolled as far so forgive me if this is duplicative...


In the first year of MD there was no playoff and for the first time since 1985 no winning season. So it's not clear why you're so quick to make that the basis of your anti-Stitt position...

With respect to the "never got humiliated" I would respectfully disagree. In MD's 2nd year the playoff loss to Coastal Carolina was beyond humiliation. A team from South Carolina came into a sub-zero Washington-Grizzly and handed the Griz their collective arses and ended the careers of Tripp and Coyle in the process.

If that wasn't humiliation, I don't know what was.

So a very good Coastal team beat UM by 7, with UM outgaining Coastal 557 yards to 476, and you think that loss is "beyond humiliation" and "handing the Griz their arses"? Hum, get we'll have to disagree on that one. UM just had a terrible last 6.5 minutes of the 2d quarter, when they gave up 3 TD's.

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

I am saying exactly what I said. UM didn't get humiliated by or have its arse handed to it by Coastal. Thus, what you posted in that regard was just plain wrong. If you think your post was right, defend it. Don't try to change the subject.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

Not going to play that game of, "so what you are really saying is ...".

My words express my opinion on the comment previously made, not the ones you want me to say, nor about a comment that wasn't made. The subject, if you will remedially read, was whether the "Coastal Carolina" game was a "humiliation" compared to .... current season examples.

It wasn't.

Well good thing I didnt ask you lol.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Some one may have touched on this, but I haven't scrolled as far so forgive me if this is duplicative...


In the first year of MD there was no playoff and for the first time since 1985 no winning season. So it's not clear why you're so quick to make that the basis of your anti-Stitt position...

With respect to the "never got humiliated" I would respectfully disagree. In MD's 2nd year the playoff loss to Coastal Carolina was beyond humiliation. A team from South Carolina came into a sub-zero Washington-Grizzly and handed the Griz their collective arses and ended the careers of Tripp and Coyle in the process.

If that wasn't humiliation, I don't know what was.

So a very good Coastal team beat UM by 7, with UM outgaining Coastal 557 yards to 476, and you think that loss is "beyond humiliation" and "handing the Griz their arses"? Hum, get we'll have to disagree on that one. UM just had a terrible last 6.5 minutes of the 2d quarter, when they gave up 3 TD's.

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

I am saying exactly what I said. UM didn't get humiliated by or have its arse handed to it by Coastal. Thus, what you posted in that regard was just plain wrong. If you think your post was right, defend it. Don't try to change the subject.

I never said the Coastal loss was humiliating, I'm bringing it up because you continued to make remarks and throw examples out of why we shouldnt be optimistic about Stitt. So I asked a simple question asking if you thought we were in a better position with Stitt now than we were with Delaney. I dont think its a difficult question, I dont know why you wouldn't want to answer.

 

[UMGriz75]

:lol: Really? Delaney lost his playoff game to Coastal Carolina AT HOME when conditions were highly favorable in our favor.

And Stitt lost a regular season game to doormat Cal Poly AT HOME when conditions were highly favorable in our favor. Losing to Coastal Carolina and losing to Cal Poly -- one is not the same as the other .... :roll:

 

[kemajic]

My money, as well, is on Brady.

Reese Phillips hs hudl tape is under-whelming.

How "whelming" is Brady's CPSLO, Liberty and NDSU playoff tape? Phillips was not fully recovered from a bad Achilles injury. I suspect he will at least be more consistent than BG and a better runner.

 

[UMGriz75]

So are you arguing that in your opinion Delaney was a better coach for the UofM than Stitt. Furthermore...are you saying that the UofM football program is in a worse position now than it was when Delaney was at the helm?

Not going to play that game of, "so what you are really saying is ...".

My words express my opinion on the comment previously made, not the ones you want me to say, nor about a comment that wasn't made. The subject, if you will remedially read, was whether the "Coastal Carolina" game was a "humiliation" compared to .... current season examples.

It wasn't.

Well good thing I didnt ask you lol.

:dead:

 

[Mavman]

So after reading this whole mess I conclude : Stitt brought in a qb that will make the team better by either creating competition or by his play on the field. Welcome Reese!
Secondly some of the good ol boys still hate Stitt and everything he does because he took their sideline passes and don't want to be their buddy??? Did I get everything????????? :roll:

 

[UMGriz75]

Secondly some of the good ol boys still hate Stitt and everything he does because he took their sideline passes and don't want to be their buddy??? Did I get everything????????? :roll:

There's hyperbole, and then there's just plain stupid hyperbole because reality doesn't get your pom poms up.

That was stupid hyperbole. As usual, nobody said any such thing. :roll:

 

[garizzalies]

You guys must have the games confused with one of your "mathlete" competitions. The CC loss was humiliating, and they did hand us our arse. More embarrassing that the usual Traitorak meltdown vs CP. Maybe the most humiliating playoff loss in recent history, almost as bad as when CP kicked booby's ass in 05. The final score my not reflect it, but that was the impression I left with that day--they physically beat us up from the get-go. Probably the most "humiliating" thing is how a team from muther fucking Carolina was more prepared for the cold than our own team. I guess the griz must not have "executed" the game plan properly. HA! Thank god MickyD and Traitorak are gone.

 

[PlayerRep]

So after reading this whole mess I conclude : Stitt brought in a qb that will make the team better by either creating competition or by his play on the field. Welcome Reese!
Secondly some of the good ol boys still hate Stitt and everything he does because he took their sideline passes and don't want to be their buddy??? Did I get everything????????? :roll:

You got 1 of your 2 statements potentially correct, and missed the other half dozen or so points.

 

[PlayerRep]

You guys must have the games confused with one of your "mathlete" competitions. The CC loss was humiliating, and they did hand us our arse. More embarrassing that the usual Traitorak meltdown vs CP. Maybe the most humiliating playoff loss in recent history, almost as bad as when CP kicked booby's ass in 05. The final score my not reflect it, but that was the impression I left with that day--they physically beat us up from the get-go. Probably the most "humiliating" thing is how a team from muther f***[*] Carolina was more prepared for the cold than our own team. I guess the griz must not have "executed" the game plan properly. HA! Thank god MickyD and Traitorak are gone.

Nope, the CC loss was not humiliating at all. A 7 point loss, 35-42. UM outgained CC, but just ran out of time in the comeback. The recent NDSU loss was many times worse than the CC loss.

 

[grzz]

You guys must have the games confused with one of your "mathlete" competitions. The CC loss was humiliating, and they did hand us our arse. More embarrassing that the usual Traitorak meltdown vs CP. Maybe the most humiliating playoff loss in recent history, almost as bad as when CP kicked booby's ass in 05. The final score my not reflect it, but that was the impression I left with that day--they physically beat us up from the get-go. Probably the most "humiliating" thing is how a team from muther f***[*] Carolina was more prepared for the cold than our own team. I guess the griz must not have "executed" the game plan properly. HA! Thank god MickyD and Traitorak are gone.

Nope, the CC loss was not humiliating at all. A 7 point loss, 35-42. UM outgained CC, but just ran out of time in the comeback. The recent NDSU loss was many times worse than the CC loss.

You are so blinded by your own biases if you think that is accurate. I guarantee you nationally losing at home to CC by 7 was more damaging to our reputation throughout the FCS than losing handily to the eventual five time national champions on the road...

 

[UMGriz75]

You guys must have the games confused with one of your "mathlete" competitions. The CC loss was humiliating, and they did hand us our arse. More embarrassing that the usual Traitorak meltdown vs CP. Maybe the most humiliating playoff loss in recent history ...

Well, a 42-35 loss to Coastal Carolina in the Second Round of the playoffs contrasts to a 37-6 drubbing in an enclosed environment where nothing could be blamed on "weather." For starters, there was an actual "offense" against CC ... compared to ... was the word ... "meltdown"... at NDSU?

Some of you are so rabid that even your nominal grasp of the meaning of words leaves you ...

It was what it was. Hopefully next year we won't see anything like that. The fact is, this year we did.