Post Game: Too many mistakes

[Atlanta Griz1]

Again I was only following via game cast but it was 4th and 1... Deep in CP territory, less than 2 mins on the clock. This calling TO was a waste of a timeout on his end as the clock was working FOR the Grizzlies. Stopping it GAVE seconds to CP. maybe 4-5 seconds...at least!

You are correct, but don't try to argue with our resident genius/sugar coater, Playa Rape. That time-out cost us the game. Yes, the clock stops on a change of possession, but that is irrelevant here. If the Griz just lined up, and milked the play clock down before running the 4th down play, there would not have been time of Poly to get into FG territory. End of story. Calling that time out with over 20 seconds left on the play clock cost us the game. Poly kicked the FG with 4 seconds left.

The other stupid call was on third-down-and-goal from the 7 yard line late in the 4th quarter. Stitt calls a freakin' run play, is stuffed yet again for no gain, and settles for the FG. A TD wins the game, and he runs the ball from the 7 ???

Ok, i screwed up. Stitt did run the play clock down before calling TO, my bad. But to call a play using a LB to run the ball??? obviously a play they had not practiced much. you've got joey Counts to get that tough yard. USE HIM! Too much cutey stuff to suit me from Stitt. fundamentals win games, not trick plays.

 

[first11]

Hats off to our defense, held them in check enough for a home win against an explosive offense.

Offense??? We looked out of synch or was it CPs game prep time to figure out a containment plan. Our frenetic offense without a consistent power game may be vulnerable especially considering what also appears to be an inability to turn the corner on wide runs.

A fast attacking defensive scheme in addition to Brady overthrows, under throws certainly kept us looking inept most of play.

Will see what liberty has in store for us, they have two game films to review. I understand they have quite a bit of speed on their defense.

 

[PlayerRep]

Again I was only following via game cast but it was 4th and 1... Deep in CP territory, less than 2 mins on the clock. This calling TO was a waste of a timeout on his end as the clock was working FOR the Grizzlies. Stopping it GAVE seconds to CP. maybe 4-5 seconds...at least!

You are correct, but don't try to argue with our resident genius/sugar coater, Playa Rape. That time-out cost us the game. Yes, the clock stops on a change of possession, but that is irrelevant here. If the Griz just lined up, and milked the play clock down before running the 4th down play, there would not have been time of Poly to get into FG territory. End of story. Calling that time out with over 20 seconds left on the play clock cost us the game. Poly kicked the FG with 4 seconds left.

The other stupid call was on third-down-and-goal from the 7 yard line late in the 4th quarter. Stitt calls a freakin' run play, is stuffed yet again for no gain, and settles for the FG. A TD wins the game, and he runs the ball from the 7 ???

The timeout was called when the play clock hit 1 second. Stitt was standing next to the ref on the sideline around the 35 (north), and the ref was waiting for the call. In actuality, calling timeout with 1 sec on the play clock ran off a few more seconds than snapping the ball late in the play clock. As others have said, there ought to be a minimum football IQ test for people like you and Cat76 to post. At least, Cat76 admitted his mistake. You jump in and perpetuate the mistake--by calling there was 20 seconds on the play clock.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

You can hang this loss on failed execution, mostly on the offense, too many errors that sunk the Griz into too much of a hole. I think our defense did a great job throughout the evening, one missed containment and one pretty well thrown pass otherwise our defense did as much as it could have been asked to do.

Lets review the issues:

- Last week in scoring on 4th down conversions the Griz were +10 points. This week they were -10 allowing a TD and the game-winning fieldgoal. Last week 4th down conversions paid off, this week it really didn't. Montana was 0-3 on 4th down. The most costly might've been the final failed attempt where we shifted two players (players not normally used to that position) which draws a flag - but yet we still run the play handing off to our staring outside linebacker, who is stopped short. Another frustrating 4th down turnover was an early one that hit Naccarato in the hands. A play or two later Chris Brown would be off to the endzone, untouched.

- Fieldgoal kicking. 1-2 tonight on a wide-right shot that had the power but never was lined up right, the other was a sideways wobbler that did get through but the crowd seemed pretty stunned it was good. If the missed kick was made who knows how that game shakes out, but if the final score by Poly would've held - we're talking a Griz win. However it's not fair to hang 1 missed kick on the loss, there were plenty of other missed opportunities.

- The interceptions. Luckily we got 1 back on a freak fumble and tackle. All 3 picks though came on similar types of passes - what appeared to be major over-throws with no Montana player in the nearby vicinity. Brady's pick last week was the same way - big overthrow and an easy pick.

- The drops. Oh the drops. I don't think the stat books report drops but there just way too many tonight and many coming on key 3rd down passes and one even on a 4th down pass.

- High passes. It seemed a ton of passes were thrown too high today. Many missed opportunities on overthrown balls.

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However this is just 1 game and even better for the Griz, it's a non-conference game. They'll learn from this and improve. We've got two weeks to rest up and get prepared for a major road test. It's not a "must win" game but it's one that would sure be great to have so we can roll into conference with some good confidence.

Additionally some other takeaways from this game:

- Our defense is good. Yeah I'm worried about DT health especially now that it seems Peevey is hurt too, but overall this defense can flat out play. KVA, Kose, and Gamboa are great linebackers. Harris and Nelson are a very good duo. And the rotation at safety is working great, Yamen, Manu, Whitted, and Johnson all had some big plays tonight. Tryone Holmes is a beast and Crittenden made such a major late play. I really like what I'm seeing out of this group. If we can get DT settled in and Kidder back this group is going to turn into something real good.

- Jamaal Jones's catch I've not yet seen a replay of but I want to. It looked pretty incredible.

- John Nguyen showing once again his best asset - that he's so tough to bring down cleanly. I still think he was robbed by not getting the TD there, that run was an incredible effort.

- Also haven't seen the replay but I think Ellis was down on that early called fumble.

- Oline again was good... not great... but much better than what a lot of posters on here feared. Luke had some earrant and wild snaps and there were some breakdowns here and there but mostly (especially in the 2nd half) Brady had decent time.

- 20 tackles for Kendrick Van Ackeren today? Wow. He was in on most plays, they went after him and with just 1 exception did not seem to have much to show for it. That 1 exception wasn't really his fault either, he had to guard both the pitch and the QB, chose the pitch and the QB ran right past him.

- 92 plays again today I believe. Shows how sometimes the turnovers and lack of 4th down success really take the wind out of the play count. Add in the amount of negative yards plays, Going by CP TFL's there were 6... seemed like a lot more.

- The defensive plan to put a hurt on Chris Johnson seemed to work pretty good. That guy was in real pain as the game went on and took some major punishment. Take away that 60 yard TD and he would've just had 80 yards tonight. Regardless he was still about 85 yards less than he had last year and was just 4-12 passing for 56 yards.

- The fly sweep tonight sure didn't work the 1 time we saw it....

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But lets look at it like this. Most all of us expected the Griz to be 1-1 at this point, just not in this fashion. We've now got a bye week to rest up and then hit the road. We're 0-0 in conference still, and have all the team goals still in front of them. I watched the Griz leave the field, they looked mad and upset with themselves, understandably. However I do have great confidence that they'll bounce back and that this loss will actually help this team to improve.

Alright Griz Nation, it's late and take heart - there's a lot more fun to come. Days like today are going pains of a new system. But think about it like this. After all of the turnovers and failures in execution, the Griz were right there until the end. They had a chance to win despite everything else that didn't go their way. As they work to clean things up these types of games will fade and they'll be able to come away with more wins.

Get some sleep gang, and enjoy the rest of your weekend! GO GRIZ!

Typical "glass-half-empty we'll get 'em next time" analysis from Wally World. You made some good points, but gloss over the serious and on-going problems we have on this offense, which not gonna change.

Most of these problems were exposed by me pre-season, and I was slammed but the usual band of merry men who prefer to over-look issues, and focus on being labeled "good fans".

We are in serious trouble in the trenches, with no depth on either line. We knew there would be injuries, as there always is, and now Peevey is out, who knows for how long. Kidder was out, and nobody knows how durable he will be the rest of the season as he has not shown the ability to stay on the field his entire career.

Our center just can not snap the ball effectively. How long can Gus keep saving fumbles caused by poor snaps? It will happen sooner rather than later. When does Weyer come back? Not soon enough for me!

Our O-line can not run-block, making us one-dimensional. Due to Grady's inaccuracy, as well as the 4-5 drops each game by our WRs, we will have problems sustaining the type of 12-18 play drives that Stitt's offenses strives for. Hell, on third-and-short, we have to pass the freakin' ball, because we can't even gain 1-2 yards running it! That is a recipe for failure.

Our defense has played light-out. Poly hit us for two big plays, but that we it the entire night. Our special teams plays was spotty again, and will continue to haunt us all season with inconsistent punting, missed FGs, and poor KO coverage. We need to play more starters on KO coverage.

 

[bigkid]

Bottom lines seem to include:
We haven't been converting on 3rd down. 34% is not getting it done
Red Zone offense has to score touchdowns and not field goals(or attempts)
Receivers need to not only get to the sticks but catch the ball when they do.
QB???? Without a resemlence of scrambling allows the defense to sit back and watch.
Running game is non-existent so the offense is one dimensional.
Gut feelings?
Defense is awesome but will endure to much wear and tear as the season goes on.

Thank heavens we have a bye week before a long road trip. We need it. My suggestion is give One of the other QB's more reps with the ones and if Brady continues as he has don't be afraid to make a change.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Again I was only following via game cast but it was 4th and 1... Deep in CP territory, less than 2 mins on the clock. This calling TO was a waste of a timeout on his end as the clock was working FOR the Grizzlies. Stopping it GAVE seconds to CP. maybe 4-5 seconds...at least!

You are correct, but don't try to argue with our resident genius/sugar coater, Playa Rape. That time-out cost us the game. Yes, the clock stops on a change of possession, but that is irrelevant here. If the Griz just lined up, and milked the play clock down before running the 4th down play, there would not have been time of Poly to get into FG territory. End of story. Calling that time out with over 20 seconds left on the play clock cost us the game. Poly kicked the FG with 4 seconds left.

The other stupid call was on third-down-and-goal from the 7 yard line late in the 4th quarter. Stitt calls a freakin' run play, is stuffed yet again for no gain, and settles for the FG. A TD wins the game, and he runs the ball from the 7 ???

The timeout was called when the play clock hit 1 second. Stitt was standing next to the ref on the sideline around the 35 (north), and the ref was waiting for the call. In actuality, calling timeout with 1 sec on the play clock ran off a few more seconds than snapping the ball late in the play clock. As others have said, there ought to be a minimum football IQ test for people like you and Cat76 to post. At least, Cat76 admitted his mistake. You jump in and perpetuate the mistake--by calling there was 20 seconds on the play clock.

If you would read my correction on my post before your weak-assed rebuttal, you wouldn't continue to look like the douche that you are. As I have said before, you can suck it all you want with Stitt, but he knows that you worked very hard to get your buddy Hauck hired, and he won't forget it. He hates two-faced boosters like you.

 

[Alaska Griz]

I can't comment on the coaching for most of the game because my streaming feed, did not stream. Bad product from Sidewind sp. but I digress.

I would say Stitts decisions in the last 2 minutes cost the griz the game. On 4th and 1 he called TO??????? If he goes and makes it game over. If he goes and doesn't make it, the clock is still running and CP is behind the clock big time. A momentum shift to CP on the change and they score the FG and win. I did not get that, and because of that alone, I would grade him out at a C for the game.

I sure had the feeling we gave the game away at the end.

 

[PlayerRep]

Again I was only following via game cast but it was 4th and 1... Deep in CP territory, less than 2 mins on the clock. This calling TO was a waste of a timeout on his end as the clock was working FOR the Grizzlies. Stopping it GAVE seconds to CP. maybe 4-5 seconds...at least!

You are correct, but don't try to argue with our resident genius/sugar coater, Playa Rape. That time-out cost us the game. Yes, the clock stops on a change of possession, but that is irrelevant here. If the Griz just lined up, and milked the play clock down before running the 4th down play, there would not have been time of Poly to get into FG territory. End of story. Calling that time out with over 20 seconds left on the play clock cost us the game. Poly kicked the FG with 4 seconds left.

The other stupid call was on third-down-and-goal from the 7 yard line late in the 4th quarter. Stitt calls a freakin' run play, is stuffed yet again for no gain, and settles for the FG. A TD wins the game, and he runs the ball from the 7 ???

The timeout was called when the play clock hit 1 second. Stitt was standing next to the ref on the sideline around the 35 (north), and the ref was waiting for the call. In actuality, calling timeout with 1 sec on the play clock ran off a few more seconds than snapping the ball late in the play clock. As others have said, there ought to be a minimum football IQ test for people like you and Cat76 to post. At least, Cat76 admitted his mistake. You jump in and perpetuate the mistake--by calling there was 20 seconds on the play clock.

If you would read my correction on my post before your weak-assed rebuttal, you wouldn't continue to look like the douche that you are. As I have said before, you can suck it all you want with Stitt, but he knows that you worked very hard to get your buddy Hauck hired, and he won't forget it. He hates two-faced boosters like you.

If you don't make so many mistakes, make up stuff, and say so many dumb things--and pay attention to the game--people wouldn't have to correct what you post so often. If you had read the posts saying the timeout was taken down to 1 sec, you might have been smart enough not to say the timeout was called at 20 seconds. You are a total idiot, and virtually everyone knows it. You have no clue what Stitt thinks.

 

[BWahlberg]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I have more of a clue than you would know, Playa, but I won't go there!

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

What is so funny to me is that so many Griz fans thought that hiring Stitt with his "fly-sweep" offense was a magic bullet to success. We have seen the fly sweep once, for negative yards. The rest of his offense is no big deal. It is a pass-read offense which many college teams utilize, either totally or partially. But the fly sweep made Stitt a legend in their minds. :lol:

Bottom line is this, if this offense was so freakin' miraculous, every college team would use it. Ultimately, every offense can be stopped, and games are usually won by defense and special teams play. I rank offense third among the three in importance.

 

[BWahlberg]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

What is so funny to me is that so many Griz fans thought that hiring Stitt with his "fly-sweep" offense was a magic bullet to success. We have seen the fly sweep once, for negative yards. The rest of his offense is no big deal. It is a pass-read offense which many college teams utilize, either totally or partially. But the fly sweep made Stitt a legend in their minds. :lol:

Bottom line is this, if this offense was so freakin' miraculous, every college team would use it. Ultimately, every offense can be stopped, and games are usually won by defense and special teams play. I rank offense third among the three in importance.

The fly sweep is a play, not the offense.

 

[The.Real.2506]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

What is so funny to me is that so many Griz fans thought that hiring Stitt with his "fly-sweep" offense was a magic bullet to success. We have seen the fly sweep once, for negative yards. The rest of his offense is no big deal. It is a pass-read offense which many college teams utilize, either totally or partially. But the fly sweep made Stitt a legend in their minds. :lol:

Bottom line is this, if this offense was so freakin' miraculous, every college team would use it. Ultimately, every offense can be stopped, and games are usually won by defense and special teams play. I rank offense third among the three in importance.

Its a lot like Mike Leach's "Air Raid" offense, PSU defended that pretty well yesterday :thumb:

 

[AZDoc]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

I think having better players helped Pueblo. The idea of keeping everything short seemed to bother the offense, except drops kill drives. Drops on crucial downs if converted instead, keep the offense rolling. It keeps the defense on the field, more plays, more chances to score etc. how many drops did we have overall? On third/fourth down? What's Gus's completion percentage if we don't have the drops? I think missing some practice didn't help. I think he is more than serviceable at QB, but a true duel threat guy would be better in the long run. That said, rest, heal, prepare and work out the kinks and barring injury the offense could be rolling as we go along.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

What is so funny to me is that so many Griz fans thought that hiring Stitt with his "fly-sweep" offense was a magic bullet to success. We have seen the fly sweep once, for negative yards. The rest of his offense is no big deal. It is a pass-read offense which many college teams utilize, either totally or partially. But the fly sweep made Stitt a legend in their minds. :lol:

Bottom line is this, if this offense was so freakin' miraculous, every college team would use it. Ultimately, every offense can be stopped, and games are usually won by defense and special teams play. I rank offense third among the three in importance.

The fly sweep is a play, not the offense.

No sh*t??? Gee, I didn't know that!

 

[signedbewildered]

I'm happier with this team and staff after game two that I anticipated I would have been thinking about this season six months ago. Gonna be a good season if everyone stays healthy. Last night was a bummer but I'm not devastated about it. We didn't execute and we got beat by a good team. That is all.

 

[Alaska Griz]

This is going to be a process this year, we'll have good games on offense and we'll have more challenging games as well. As long as the team identifies and improves on errors and miscues they'll only get better. I think this goes for coach Stitt as well who is adapting himself to presumably better opposing coaches, more talented and sophisticated defenses, and better overall skill in opponents.

I saw on Twitter from a CPSLO blogger who I've talked with before that Poly's coaches talked to the CSU Pueblo coaches on how to slow down Stitt's offense. Found that pretty interesting if true.

This bye week is just what the team needed, they go into it pissed off and focused on improvement. How they respond in two weeks at Liberty will give us a real good glimpse at the fire and passion they have. I have a good feeling that the Griz are going to be just fine and will use this loss to their advantage.

What is so funny to me is that so many Griz fans thought that hiring Stitt with his "fly-sweep" offense was a magic bullet to success. We have seen the fly sweep once, for negative yards. The rest of his offense is no big deal. It is a pass-read offense which many college teams utilize, either totally or partially. But the fly sweep made Stitt a legend in their minds. :lol:

Bottom line is this, if this offense was so freakin' miraculous, every college team would use it. Ultimately, every offense can be stopped, and games are usually won by defense and special teams play. I rank offense third among the three in importance.

On the other hand, some folks are just enjoying the season and giving the team a chance to play some games and improve. Believe it or not egriz is a website for entertainment and doesn't really represent Griz nation as closely as you think. Serious question: Is there anything about Griz football that you like?

 

[mcg]

Personally I think the hangover from last week was huge. The whole media hoopla may have impaired preparation for Poly just a bit, enough to make a difference of a couple points. Pro baseball players have a cliche 'you can't believe your own bulls**t'. It means you can't get wrapped up in all the people telling you how great you are because there is always somebody who is hungry and motivated who is working to beat you.

I hope the Griz; players, staff and fans learned a lesson last night.

 

[BWahlberg]

I'm happier with this team and staff after game two that I anticipated I would have been thinking about this season six months ago. Gonna be a good season if everyone stays healthy. Last night was a bummer but I'm not devastated about it. We didn't execute and we got beat by a good team. That is all.

Agreed but it's hard for some to understand that I guess.

 

[grizindabox]

Personally I think the hangover from last week was huge. The whole media hoopla may have impaired preparation for Poly just a bit, enough to make a difference of a couple points. Pro baseball players have a cliche 'you can't believe your own bulls**t'. It means you can't get wrapped up in all the people telling you how great you are because there is always somebody who is hungry and motivated who is working to beat you.

I hope the Griz; players, staff and fans learned a lesson last night.

And I think this is a stupid post. The lesson I learned was Gus has to get better, the Red Zone offense needs to get better, the punt returner needs to catch the damn ball....don't buy the hangover rant...