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Post Game: Baffling loss

BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

He's actually criticizing a player too. I don't completely agree with him, but I like it. About time people started thinking for themselves rather than repeating what the coaches do as gospel. Surprised there hasn't been a backlash from Havgriz or Eirul for criticizing a player. Oh wait, it fits their agenda nevermind.

Criticizing or pointing out why Brady has been the clear-cut starter (when healthy) the whole season? The coaching staff knows what they're doing and who the best QB is on the team.

That's debatable. Missed the playoffs buddy. Would have missed them last year too if not for ridiculous play at ISU. I guess we have different expectations of 'Knowing what they're doing". Give them another year though for sure (assuming we beat MSU).
 
BWahlberg said:
Grizzoola said:
3. Good thing Chalich was QB & not Brady; loss would have been bigger.

Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
I don't know Brint, Brady's track record in the face of pressure ain't pretty. Maybe he would have. Hell who knows...
 
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

He's actually criticizing a player too. I don't completely agree with him, but I like it. About time people started thinking for themselves rather than repeating what the coaches do as gospel. Surprised there hasn't been a backlash from Havgriz or Eirul for criticizing a player. Oh wait, it fits their agenda nevermind.

Criticizing or pointing out why Brady has been the clear-cut starter (when healthy) the whole season? The coaching staff knows what they're doing and who the best QB is on the team.

Why do you think Brady would have done better? Taking only into account Gustafson's road games and road record, being the self-proclaimed numbers guy that you are, what away from home numbers point to this?
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Worst team I can remember other than 2012. I actually can't think of a team that was this painful to watch. 2010 was pretty miserable but this year has just been pathetic, and its year two and rather than getting better the team seems to be getting worse, which is kind of a. Red flag IMO


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Assuming we beat the Cats, which I think we will, this year is very similar to Pflugrad's first year. We did not have one good win that season and we got beat at home by the Cats.
 
RobGriz said:
BWahlberg said:
Grizzoola said:
3. Good thing Chalich was QB & not Brady; loss would have been bigger.

Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
I don't know Brint, Brady's track record in the face of pressure ain't pretty. Maybe he would have. Hell who knows...

I know - but Chad's yesterday not even in the face of pressure but just a pocket being disrupted was something that not even Brady showed issue with this season.
 
G-BEARS said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
UMGriz75 said:
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

He's actually criticizing a player too. I don't completely agree with him, but I like it. About time people started thinking for themselves rather than repeating what the coaches do as gospel. Surprised there hasn't been a backlash from Havgriz or Eirul for criticizing a player. Oh wait, it fits their agenda nevermind.

Criticizing or pointing out why Brady has been the clear-cut starter (when healthy) the whole season? The coaching staff knows what they're doing and who the best QB is on the team.

Why do you think Brady would have done better? Taking only into account Gustafson's road games and road record, being the self-proclaimed numbers guy that you are, what away from home numbers point to this?

OK well if you want to just use numbers:

@EWU 398 yards / 2 TDs / 2 INTs / -10 rushing
@NAU 394 yards / 4 TDs / 1 INT / 11 rushing
@CPSLO 418 yards / 2 TDs / 1 INT / -6 rushing
@UNI 118 yards 1 TD / 0 INT / -10 rushing

Average 332 passing yards per game / 2 TDs per game / 1 INT per game / -15 rushing

Chalich against UNC 172 yards / 1 TD (rushing) / 0 INTs / 76 rushing

So on the surface Brady, on average, would account for 84 more yards of offense and 1 more TD.
 
BWahlberg said:
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
Grizzoola said:
3. Good thing Chalich was QB & not Brady; loss would have been bigger.
Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

Nope.

Stitt had multiple comments that they need a fully healthy Brady. I assume he wasn't ready for the game then. A healthy Gus at QB and I think the Griz win that game. But we didn't have that and it resulted in a loss.

Thought Stitt said in post game conference that Brady was good to go and that he isn't second guessing his decision not to play him. So if that's the case your opinion Brady would have done better yet Stitt didnt play him would mean in your opinion Stitt was wrong. Might lose your sugar coaters card if not careful.
 
Griz win that game if Gus and Sandry start. This staff and team is in disarray. Wish I could see hope in two or three years but I don't. Sucks. Shitty situation for all involved.
 
BWahlberg said:
UMGriz75 said:
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.
Nope.

Stitt had multiple comments that they need a fully healthy Brady. I assume he wasn't ready for the game then. A healthy Gus at QB and I think the Griz win that game. But we didn't have that and it resulted in a loss.
So, when Stitt says, post-game, that Brady was fine and ready to go, but that it just wasn't a decision he was going to "revisit," you don't believe the Coach. What is your basis for contradicting Stitt?
 
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
He's actually criticizing a player too. I don't completely agree with him, but I like it. About time people started thinking for themselves rather than repeating what the coaches do as gospel. Surprised there hasn't been a backlash from Havgriz or Eirul for criticizing a player. Oh wait, it fits their agenda nevermind.

Criticizing or pointing out why Brady has been the clear-cut starter (when healthy) the whole season? The coaching staff knows what they're doing and who the best QB is on the team.

Why do you think Brady would have done better? Taking only into account Gustafson's road games and road record, being the self-proclaimed numbers guy that you are, what away from home numbers point to this?

OK well if you want to just use numbers:

@EWU 398 yards / 2 TDs / 2 INTs / -10 rushing
@NAU 394 yards / 4 TDs / 1 INT / 11 rushing
@CPSLO 418 yards / 2 TDs / 1 INT / -6 rushing
@UNI 118 yards 1 TD / 0 INT / -10 rushing

Average 332 passing yards per game / 2 TDs per game / 1 INT per game / -15 rushing

Chalich against UNC 172 yards / 1 TD (rushing) / 0 INTs / 76 rushing

So on the surface Brady, on average, would account for 84 more yards of offense and 1 more TD.

Come on man, you're smart enough to know that a larger sample size will yield more accurate results. Let's include last season's road games too...

Gustafson- Completion Percentage .62 (194/311) YPG 263.7 Yards 1846 TD 14 Int 9
Chalich - Completion Percentage .56 (63/112) YPG 221.7 Yards 665 TD 4 Int 0

That touchdown to interception ratio is not very good for Brady on the road. His other stats while slightly better aren't dramatically better, especially when you take into account Chalich's running ability, which I didn't look at when adding up the numbers unfortunately. Might go back and look at that when I get a chance. Just food for thought.
 
Ursus1 said:
BWahlberg said:
UMGriz75 said:
BWahlberg said:
Disagree 100%

Brady would've managed the game in the pocket better, seen the field better, panicked way less in the face of pressure, and stretched the field. Something Chalich had an issue with yesterday.
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

Nope.

Stitt had multiple comments that they need a fully healthy Brady. I assume he wasn't ready for the game then. A healthy Gus at QB and I think the Griz win that game. But we didn't have that and it resulted in a loss.

Thought Stitt said in post game conference that Brady was good to go and that he isn't second guessing his decision not to play him. So if that's the case your opinion Brady would have done better yet Stitt didnt play him would mean in your opinion Stitt was wrong. Might lose your sugar coaters card if not careful.

Stitt said right after the game that brady wasn't 100% and didn't take reps this week.
 
You can't argue with them about the better QB. Even though Selle and Stitt have both said BG is the guy...
 
Eriul said:
Ursus1 said:
BWahlberg said:
UMGriz75 said:
You are saying, point blank, Stitt was simply wrong Saturday? There's no sugar there.

Nope.

Stitt had multiple comments that they need a fully healthy Brady. I assume he wasn't ready for the game then. A healthy Gus at QB and I think the Griz win that game. But we didn't have that and it resulted in a loss.

Thought Stitt said in post game conference that Brady was good to go and that he isn't second guessing his decision not to play him. So if that's the case your opinion Brady would have done better yet Stitt didnt play him would mean in your opinion Stitt was wrong. Might lose your sugar coaters card if not careful.

Stitt said right after the game that brady wasn't 100% and didn't take reps this week.

Looks like multiple sources of conflicting info. based on what I've been told/have heard this season I have a hard time believing Stitt doesn't start a 100% Gus. But by no means do I have a for sure idea on it
 
G-BEARS said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
BWahlberg said:
Criticizing or pointing out why Brady has been the clear-cut starter (when healthy) the whole season? The coaching staff knows what they're doing and who the best QB is on the team.

Why do you think Brady would have done better? Taking only into account Gustafson's road games and road record, being the self-proclaimed numbers guy that you are, what away from home numbers point to this?

OK well if you want to just use numbers:

@EWU 398 yards / 2 TDs / 2 INTs / -10 rushing
@NAU 394 yards / 4 TDs / 1 INT / 11 rushing
@CPSLO 418 yards / 2 TDs / 1 INT / -6 rushing
@UNI 118 yards 1 TD / 0 INT / -10 rushing

Average 332 passing yards per game / 2 TDs per game / 1 INT per game / -15 rushing

Chalich against UNC 172 yards / 1 TD (rushing) / 0 INTs / 76 rushing

So on the surface Brady, on average, would account for 84 more yards of offense and 1 more TD.

Come on man, you're smart enough to know that a larger sample size will yield more accurate results. Let's include last season's road games too...

Gustafson- Completion Percentage .62 (194/311) YPG 263.7 Yards 1846 TD 14 Int 9
Chalich - Completion Percentage .56 (63/112) YPG 221.7 Yards 665 TD 4 Int 0

That touchdown to interception ratio is not very good for Brady on the road. His other stats while slightly better aren't dramatically better, especially when you take into account Chalich's running ability, which I didn't look at when adding up the numbers unfortunately. Might go back and look at that when I get a chance. Just food for thought.

Totally different WR corps last season. You can include last year's stats I suppose since both QBs were throwing to the same guys but it's apples to oranges to me.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You can't argue with them about the better QB. Even though Selle and Stitt have both said BG is the guy...

And there was a NFL team that though Tebow was a NFL QB

Ok Mr. Contrarian. Who do you think the best QB is?

Numbers, and our coaches both say Gus
 
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You can't argue with them about the better QB. Even though Selle and Stitt have both said BG is the guy...

And there was a NFL team that though Tebow was a NFL QB

Ok Mr. Contrarian. Who do you think the best QB is?

Numbers, and our coaches both say Gus

my point is, even the so-called guys in the know don't get it right all the time...nothing more, nothing less
 
Yah we get it... you just like to contradict people without actually ever stating an opinion. If you do you get called out on your BS and then you say you "never said that."
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Eriul said:
You can't argue with them about the better QB. Even though Selle and Stitt have both said BG is the guy...

And there was a NFL team that though Tebow was a NFL QB

Ok Mr. Contrarian. Who do you think the best QB is?

Numbers, and our coaches both say Gus

my point is, even the so-called guys in the know don't get it right all the time...nothing more, nothing less

This concept is way to hard for some posters to understand. It's not worth it, with this logic euriul would probably thinks that every decision trump makes as president will be the right one. And that Obama made all the right decisions as well
 
Eriul said:
Yah we get it... you just like to contradict people without actually ever stating an opinion. If you do you get called out on your BS and then you say you "never said that."

I never said to bench BG. I did, on numerous occasions say that Stitt should look to make changes, but that does not automatically mean the QB. Comprehend?
 
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