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Post Game: Baffling loss

I could be wrong... and it was an interview on the sidelines at the end of the game so sort of muffled but I am about 80% sure Stitt said Gus wasn't quite ready and didn't take many snaps this week. He didn't put any blame on Chalich, actually tried to say that Chalich played well, but when asked about Gus I believe that is what he said.
 
No reason to. There is a small chance that we make the playoffs still and we have to play to that.

Funny because that can be said about the end of the game too with the poor timeout management, and the penalty by kidder.
 
Eriul said:
reinell30 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
reinell30 said:
At least when Gus chucks the ball into the stands, we don't lose yardage....
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And not every time that Chalich took off running did he lose yardage. And I was not doing anything other than noting that both QB's are different and react to the same situation differently. One will run and one will throw.
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Yes, I agree with you. I agree having the option to be able to run is a bonus. Today, Chalich had extreme happy feet.
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Today? He ran it 24/59 times last week and 14/41 times last week. That's only a difference of about 5% of the time. He's a happy feet QB. But Egriz thought that was what was best so...
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Not sure eGriz made the decision. Someone was a little panicky. But neither QB would've won today IMO. As neither one of them handle pressure worth a shit and UNCs D line handled our O line pretty good today
 
BWahlberg said:
I had some hot takes brewing in me right after the game but it appears other posters here are full of them, either legit or not - so glad those are out.

I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.

First downs: Griz 25 / UNC 12
Plays: Griz 95 / UNC 47
Yards: Griz 400 / UNC 241
Turnovers: Griz +1 (Griz forced 3 / UNC forced 2)
TOP: Griz 39:09 / UNC 20:51
3rd downs: Griz 43% / UNC 30%

But obviously the score;

Griz 25
UNC 28

------------

So what happened? Here's what I saw:

1. Poor redzone efficiency. RZ efficiency has been declining most of the season and today's might be the biggest single point for the loss. Take a look at the trips within the UNC redzone:

UNC 4 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 14 yard line - lost fumble
UNC 1 yard line - touchdown (missed PAT)
UNC 5 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 6 yard line - missed fieldgoal
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown (failed 2 point)

So the Griz were withing the UNC 15 yard line 7 times and mustered 25 points - just about half of what they could've scored if each went for a TD.

Do we blame execution or playcalling? I think it goes both ways. There were dropped passes that were for-sure TDs in the end zone. There were overthrows too. There were also a few of the earlier series where the running game got the Griz to a "goal to go" situation and then the running back never touches the ball for the next 3 plays. If the Griz just get things done in the RZ then we're celebrating a win right now.

2. Special Teams. A blocked punt picked up for a touchdown. A missed PAT on a bad snap/hold. A missed chip shot field goal. A failed 2-point conversion (not sure if you hang that on ST). Add in that luckily a muffed punt didn't turn out to be a turnover. Special teams errors cost the Griz 4 points in a game that they lost by 3 - and spotted UNC 7. With all of the other issues that came up today an error-free ST game would have the Griz winning by 1 (or 2 as they'd not have gone for 2 after their last TD).

3. No vertical passing game. Chalich provides a great element of mobility and without his legs who knows if the Griz are even in this game today. The longest reception of the game came on a blown up JLM swing pass that he cut back and took for 46 yards. Otherwise a 27 yarder to Bingham and no other pass that was longer than 10 yards. When pressured the passing game was neutralized and turned into a mad scramble. The coaches adjusted to attack it in the 2nd half - but when needed (last drive of the game) it couldn't come through. Also Chad Chalich was sacked 6 times in the face of generally a 3 man rush. That's unacceptable.

4. Mental errors that veteran teams should not make. As mentioned there were dropped passes, there were overthrows, there were fumbles in the redzone, there were missed kicks, and there was the dropped snap on the punt. There were also some incredibly costly penalties. A penalty on an interception setting the offense back, when every yard and moment was needed. A cut-block and then follow up delay of game penalty that moved a drive back that wound up just scoring 3 points. An off-sides penalty that negated an interception (and the Griz drive after that series went 3 and out instead). Then the game-sealing personal foul (which Andrew Schmidt on twitter said was totally baited into - but it's always the retaliatory strike that gets flagged)

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I thought today we saw so many positive points that will now mostly go unnoticed.

- Run blocking, especially up the middle was pretty good.

- Nguyen and Counts ran pretty damn well. Both had good games. Stepping up in the place of Calhoun and carrying the ball well.

- The defense still gave up 1 big play but actually did much better than we'd seen in weeks prior. There was some good QB pressure and QB hits, and the coverage (with a few noticeable exceptions) did their job.

- The dimension given with a QB that can make plays with his feet was still good.

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0-4 in conference and 1-5 overall on the road is unacceptable. These types of performances as a whole are unacceptable. 4 loss (or worse) seasons are unacceptable. No one knows this more than the coaches, players, and administrators. A lot of focus and attention to execution, play calling, personnel, and game planning needs to continue and get better.

Would a 7-4 Griz team stand a chance to get in the playoffs? Possibly, it's a long shot, but now the Grizzlies destiny in the post season is well out of their hands. They'll need to win and get a lot of help. it's not impossible but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

This upcoming game we're honoring a group of seniors that's been through 3 different head coaches. They deserve our respect and our support. Let show up and send them off as winners.

Go Griz!
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Just curious BW? At what point did Stiff convince you that yards and plays run were the new empirical database for winning football games? ... :egriz:
 
rimrockgriz said:
BWahlberg said:
I had some hot takes brewing in me right after the game but it appears other posters here are full of them, either legit or not - so glad those are out.

I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.

First downs: Griz 25 / UNC 12
Plays: Griz 95 / UNC 47
Yards: Griz 400 / UNC 241
Turnovers: Griz +1 (Griz forced 3 / UNC forced 2)
TOP: Griz 39:09 / UNC 20:51
3rd downs: Griz 43% / UNC 30%

But obviously the score;

Griz 25
UNC 28

------------

So what happened? Here's what I saw:

1. Poor redzone efficiency. RZ efficiency has been declining most of the season and today's might be the biggest single point for the loss. Take a look at the trips within the UNC redzone:

UNC 4 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 14 yard line - lost fumble
UNC 1 yard line - touchdown (missed PAT)
UNC 5 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 6 yard line - missed fieldgoal
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown (failed 2 point)

So the Griz were withing the UNC 15 yard line 7 times and mustered 25 points - just about half of what they could've scored if each went for a TD.

Do we blame execution or playcalling? I think it goes both ways. There were dropped passes that were for-sure TDs in the end zone. There were overthrows too. There were also a few of the earlier series where the running game got the Griz to a "goal to go" situation and then the running back never touches the ball for the next 3 plays. If the Griz just get things done in the RZ then we're celebrating a win right now.

2. Special Teams. A blocked punt picked up for a touchdown. A missed PAT on a bad snap/hold. A missed chip shot field goal. A failed 2-point conversion (not sure if you hang that on ST). Add in that luckily a muffed punt didn't turn out to be a turnover. Special teams errors cost the Griz 4 points in a game that they lost by 3 - and spotted UNC 7. With all of the other issues that came up today an error-free ST game would have the Griz winning by 1 (or 2 as they'd not have gone for 2 after their last TD).

3. No vertical passing game. Chalich provides a great element of mobility and without his legs who knows if the Griz are even in this game today. The longest reception of the game came on a blown up JLM swing pass that he cut back and took for 46 yards. Otherwise a 27 yarder to Bingham and no other pass that was longer than 10 yards. When pressured the passing game was neutralized and turned into a mad scramble. The coaches adjusted to attack it in the 2nd half - but when needed (last drive of the game) it couldn't come through. Also Chad Chalich was sacked 6 times in the face of generally a 3 man rush. That's unacceptable.

4. Mental errors that veteran teams should not make. As mentioned there were dropped passes, there were overthrows, there were fumbles in the redzone, there were missed kicks, and there was the dropped snap on the punt. There were also some incredibly costly penalties. A penalty on an interception setting the offense back, when every yard and moment was needed. A cut-block and then follow up delay of game penalty that moved a drive back that wound up just scoring 3 points. An off-sides penalty that negated an interception (and the Griz drive after that series went 3 and out instead). Then the game-sealing personal foul (which Andrew Schmidt on twitter said was totally baited into - but it's always the retaliatory strike that gets flagged)

-------------

I thought today we saw so many positive points that will now mostly go unnoticed.

- Run blocking, especially up the middle was pretty good.

- Nguyen and Counts ran pretty damn well. Both had good games. Stepping up in the place of Calhoun and carrying the ball well.

- The defense still gave up 1 big play but actually did much better than we'd seen in weeks prior. There was some good QB pressure and QB hits, and the coverage (with a few noticeable exceptions) did their job.

- The dimension given with a QB that can make plays with his feet was still good.

----------------

0-4 in conference and 1-5 overall on the road is unacceptable. These types of performances as a whole are unacceptable. 4 loss (or worse) seasons are unacceptable. No one knows this more than the coaches, players, and administrators. A lot of focus and attention to execution, play calling, personnel, and game planning needs to continue and get better.

Would a 7-4 Griz team stand a chance to get in the playoffs? Possibly, it's a long shot, but now the Grizzlies destiny in the post season is well out of their hands. They'll need to win and get a lot of help. it's not impossible but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

This upcoming game we're honoring a group of seniors that's been through 3 different head coaches. They deserve our respect and our support. Let show up and send them off as winners.

Go Griz!
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Just curious BW? At what point did Stiff convince you that yards and plays run were the new empirical database for winning football games? ... :egriz:
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Not to speak for BW, but I believe his point wasn't so much that it was "empirical data" but that if that was the only thing you saw, you'd think that the Griz destroyed NC.
 
RobGriz said:
rimrockgriz said:
BWahlberg said:
I had some hot takes brewing in me right after the game but it appears other posters here are full of them, either legit or not - so glad those are out.

I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.

First downs: Griz 25 / UNC 12
Plays: Griz 95 / UNC 47
Yards: Griz 400 / UNC 241
Turnovers: Griz +1 (Griz forced 3 / UNC forced 2)
TOP: Griz 39:09 / UNC 20:51
3rd downs: Griz 43% / UNC 30%

But obviously the score;

Griz 25
UNC 28

------------

So what happened? Here's what I saw:

1. Poor redzone efficiency. RZ efficiency has been declining most of the season and today's might be the biggest single point for the loss. Take a look at the trips within the UNC redzone:

UNC 4 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 14 yard line - lost fumble
UNC 1 yard line - touchdown (missed PAT)
UNC 5 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 6 yard line - missed fieldgoal
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown (failed 2 point)

So the Griz were withing the UNC 15 yard line 7 times and mustered 25 points - just about half of what they could've scored if each went for a TD.

Do we blame execution or playcalling? I think it goes both ways. There were dropped passes that were for-sure TDs in the end zone. There were overthrows too. There were also a few of the earlier series where the running game got the Griz to a "goal to go" situation and then the running back never touches the ball for the next 3 plays. If the Griz just get things done in the RZ then we're celebrating a win right now.

2. Special Teams. A blocked punt picked up for a touchdown. A missed PAT on a bad snap/hold. A missed chip shot field goal. A failed 2-point conversion (not sure if you hang that on ST). Add in that luckily a muffed punt didn't turn out to be a turnover. Special teams errors cost the Griz 4 points in a game that they lost by 3 - and spotted UNC 7. With all of the other issues that came up today an error-free ST game would have the Griz winning by 1 (or 2 as they'd not have gone for 2 after their last TD).

3. No vertical passing game. Chalich provides a great element of mobility and without his legs who knows if the Griz are even in this game today. The longest reception of the game came on a blown up JLM swing pass that he cut back and took for 46 yards. Otherwise a 27 yarder to Bingham and no other pass that was longer than 10 yards. When pressured the passing game was neutralized and turned into a mad scramble. The coaches adjusted to attack it in the 2nd half - but when needed (last drive of the game) it couldn't come through. Also Chad Chalich was sacked 6 times in the face of generally a 3 man rush. That's unacceptable.

4. Mental errors that veteran teams should not make. As mentioned there were dropped passes, there were overthrows, there were fumbles in the redzone, there were missed kicks, and there was the dropped snap on the punt. There were also some incredibly costly penalties. A penalty on an interception setting the offense back, when every yard and moment was needed. A cut-block and then follow up delay of game penalty that moved a drive back that wound up just scoring 3 points. An off-sides penalty that negated an interception (and the Griz drive after that series went 3 and out instead). Then the game-sealing personal foul (which Andrew Schmidt on twitter said was totally baited into - but it's always the retaliatory strike that gets flagged)

-------------

I thought today we saw so many positive points that will now mostly go unnoticed.

- Run blocking, especially up the middle was pretty good.

- Nguyen and Counts ran pretty damn well. Both had good games. Stepping up in the place of Calhoun and carrying the ball well.

- The defense still gave up 1 big play but actually did much better than we'd seen in weeks prior. There was some good QB pressure and QB hits, and the coverage (with a few noticeable exceptions) did their job.

- The dimension given with a QB that can make plays with his feet was still good.

----------------

0-4 in conference and 1-5 overall on the road is unacceptable. These types of performances as a whole are unacceptable. 4 loss (or worse) seasons are unacceptable. No one knows this more than the coaches, players, and administrators. A lot of focus and attention to execution, play calling, personnel, and game planning needs to continue and get better.

Would a 7-4 Griz team stand a chance to get in the playoffs? Possibly, it's a long shot, but now the Grizzlies destiny in the post season is well out of their hands. They'll need to win and get a lot of help. it's not impossible but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

This upcoming game we're honoring a group of seniors that's been through 3 different head coaches. They deserve our respect and our support. Let show up and send them off as winners.

Go Griz!
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Just curious BW? At what point did Stiff convince you that yards and plays run were the new empirical database for winning football games? ... :egriz:
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Not to speak for BW, but I believe his point wasn't so much that it was "empirical data" but that if that was the only thing you saw, you'd think that the Griz destroyed NC.
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Well, here's a number I'm crystal clear on. Stithy will be doing some subtractions and additions to his staff shortly... :egriz:
 
The OL didn't play great today, but they weren't awful either. Run blocking was decent. Pass protection could have been much better, but not all of those sacks were their fault.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
The OL didn't play great today, but they weren't awful either. Run blocking was decent. Pass protection could have been much better, but not all of those sacks were their fault.
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True, but don't give them too much credit. A lot of the success they had run blocking was due to the fact that UNC sold out to stop the pass and very often only had 5-6 in the box. And yes CC was pretty panicky and contributed to his own demise.
 
RobGriz said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
The OL didn't play great today, but they weren't awful either. Run blocking was decent. Pass protection could have been much better, but not all of those sacks were their fault.
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True, but don't give them too much credit. A lot of the success they had run blocking was due to the fact that UNC sold out to stop the pass and very often only had 5-6 in the box. And yes CC was pretty panicky and contributed to his own demise.
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Agreed. UNC, if I'm not mistaken, has struggled defending the run this year. Was hoping we would keep pounding it at them, because they were winning the battles and pushing them back on their heels in the 2nd half.
 
UNC just has a bad defense. 106th in FCS in rushing defense and 102 in passing defense. 113th total defense. They allow 472 ypg and 35 ppg. We fell below both of those marks today. There's really not a single person you can blame for a top 10 fcs offense to get 4 yards per play
 
Eriul said:
UNC just has a bad defense. 106th in FCS in rushing defense and 102 in passing defense. 113th total defense. They allow 472 ypg and 35 ppg. We fell below both of those marks today. There's really not a single person you can blame for a top 10 fcs offense to get 4 yards per play
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Top 10 in what?
 
rimrockgriz said:
BWahlberg said:
I had some hot takes brewing in me right after the game but it appears other posters here are full of them, either legit or not - so glad those are out.

I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.

First downs: Griz 25 / UNC 12
Plays: Griz 95 / UNC 47
Yards: Griz 400 / UNC 241
Turnovers: Griz +1 (Griz forced 3 / UNC forced 2)
TOP: Griz 39:09 / UNC 20:51
3rd downs: Griz 43% / UNC 30%

But obviously the score;

Griz 25
UNC 28

------------

So what happened? Here's what I saw:

1. Poor redzone efficiency. RZ efficiency has been declining most of the season and today's might be the biggest single point for the loss. Take a look at the trips within the UNC redzone:

UNC 4 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 14 yard line - lost fumble
UNC 1 yard line - touchdown (missed PAT)
UNC 5 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 6 yard line - missed fieldgoal
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown (failed 2 point)

So the Griz were withing the UNC 15 yard line 7 times and mustered 25 points - just about half of what they could've scored if each went for a TD.

Do we blame execution or playcalling? I think it goes both ways. There were dropped passes that were for-sure TDs in the end zone. There were overthrows too. There were also a few of the earlier series where the running game got the Griz to a "goal to go" situation and then the running back never touches the ball for the next 3 plays. If the Griz just get things done in the RZ then we're celebrating a win right now.

2. Special Teams. A blocked punt picked up for a touchdown. A missed PAT on a bad snap/hold. A missed chip shot field goal. A failed 2-point conversion (not sure if you hang that on ST). Add in that luckily a muffed punt didn't turn out to be a turnover. Special teams errors cost the Griz 4 points in a game that they lost by 3 - and spotted UNC 7. With all of the other issues that came up today an error-free ST game would have the Griz winning by 1 (or 2 as they'd not have gone for 2 after their last TD).

3. No vertical passing game. Chalich provides a great element of mobility and without his legs who knows if the Griz are even in this game today. The longest reception of the game came on a blown up JLM swing pass that he cut back and took for 46 yards. Otherwise a 27 yarder to Bingham and no other pass that was longer than 10 yards. When pressured the passing game was neutralized and turned into a mad scramble. The coaches adjusted to attack it in the 2nd half - but when needed (last drive of the game) it couldn't come through. Also Chad Chalich was sacked 6 times in the face of generally a 3 man rush. That's unacceptable.

4. Mental errors that veteran teams should not make. As mentioned there were dropped passes, there were overthrows, there were fumbles in the redzone, there were missed kicks, and there was the dropped snap on the punt. There were also some incredibly costly penalties. A penalty on an interception setting the offense back, when every yard and moment was needed. A cut-block and then follow up delay of game penalty that moved a drive back that wound up just scoring 3 points. An off-sides penalty that negated an interception (and the Griz drive after that series went 3 and out instead). Then the game-sealing personal foul (which Andrew Schmidt on twitter said was totally baited into - but it's always the retaliatory strike that gets flagged)

-------------

I thought today we saw so many positive points that will now mostly go unnoticed.

- Run blocking, especially up the middle was pretty good.

- Nguyen and Counts ran pretty damn well. Both had good games. Stepping up in the place of Calhoun and carrying the ball well.

- The defense still gave up 1 big play but actually did much better than we'd seen in weeks prior. There was some good QB pressure and QB hits, and the coverage (with a few noticeable exceptions) did their job.

- The dimension given with a QB that can make plays with his feet was still good.

----------------

0-4 in conference and 1-5 overall on the road is unacceptable. These types of performances as a whole are unacceptable. 4 loss (or worse) seasons are unacceptable. No one knows this more than the coaches, players, and administrators. A lot of focus and attention to execution, play calling, personnel, and game planning needs to continue and get better.

Would a 7-4 Griz team stand a chance to get in the playoffs? Possibly, it's a long shot, but now the Grizzlies destiny in the post season is well out of their hands. They'll need to win and get a lot of help. it's not impossible but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

This upcoming game we're honoring a group of seniors that's been through 3 different head coaches. They deserve our respect and our support. Let show up and send them off as winners.

Go Griz!
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Just curious BW? At what point did Stiff convince you that yards and plays run were the new empirical database for winning football games? ... :egriz:
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I'm a numbers guy, it was way before Stitt, probably Hauck
 
ronangrizfan said:
Baffling, mr. Real estate? Your syrupy smooze requires me to get some moist towelettes to wipe your rose colored 6 bedroom 3 bath mentality of the griz program away.

Stitt is out of his league. Dennehy, Glenn, Hauck and Pflugerville took over and made something out of what they inherited.

Stitt is out of his league. And so are you. Now go sell some real estate or something productive. You suck at this.
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Cry me a river you whiny baby
 
Wow! This is the kind of disgusting, vicious fan base that makes you enjoy seeing their pathetic, rabid asses after a loss ... if it weren't for the team and the staff. Does the team have troubles, right now? They're world champions compared to this howling pack of sick old dogs.
 
ronangrizfan said:
Baffling, mr. Real estate? Your syrupy smooze requires me to get some moist towelettes to wipe your rose colored 6 bedroom 3 bath mentality of the griz program away.

Stitt is out of his league. Dennehy, Glenn, Hauck and Pflugerville took over and made something out of what they inherited.

Stitt is out of his league. And so are you. Now go sell some real estate or something productive. You suck at this.
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Hmmmm....very Growleresque of you.LOL
 
CV Griz Fan said:
ronangrizfan said:
Baffling, mr. Real estate? Your syrupy smooze requires me to get some moist towelettes to wipe your rose colored 6 bedroom 3 bath mentality of the griz program away.

Stitt is out of his league. Dennehy, Glenn, Hauck and Pflugerville took over and made something out of what they inherited.

Stitt is out of his league. And so are you. Now go sell some real estate or something productive. You suck at this.
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Hmmmm....very Growleresque of you.LOL
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I was thinking.....the same thing...
 
Igotgoodsources said:
UNC 56 .....Rocky Mountain College 27
UNC 28 ........................Montana 25

Let that sink in for a minute.
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I already have, in the prediction thread.......

Fushiznitz said:
UNC lost to UCD, and only beat NAIA Rocky by less than 30. Let that sink in. However, they beat NAU, who kicked UM in the dingle berries.
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BWahlberg said:
rimrockgriz said:
BWahlberg said:
I had some hot takes brewing in me right after the game but it appears other posters here are full of them, either legit or not - so glad those are out.

I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.

First downs: Griz 25 / UNC 12
Plays: Griz 95 / UNC 47
Yards: Griz 400 / UNC 241
Turnovers: Griz +1 (Griz forced 3 / UNC forced 2)
TOP: Griz 39:09 / UNC 20:51
3rd downs: Griz 43% / UNC 30%

But obviously the score;

Griz 25
UNC 28

------------

So what happened? Here's what I saw:

1. Poor redzone efficiency. RZ efficiency has been declining most of the season and today's might be the biggest single point for the loss. Take a look at the trips within the UNC redzone:

UNC 4 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 14 yard line - lost fumble
UNC 1 yard line - touchdown (missed PAT)
UNC 5 yard line - fieldgoal
UNC 6 yard line - missed fieldgoal
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown
UNC 2 yard line - touchdown (failed 2 point)

So the Griz were withing the UNC 15 yard line 7 times and mustered 25 points - just about half of what they could've scored if each went for a TD.

Do we blame execution or playcalling? I think it goes both ways. There were dropped passes that were for-sure TDs in the end zone. There were overthrows too. There were also a few of the earlier series where the running game got the Griz to a "goal to go" situation and then the running back never touches the ball for the next 3 plays. If the Griz just get things done in the RZ then we're celebrating a win right now.

2. Special Teams. A blocked punt picked up for a touchdown. A missed PAT on a bad snap/hold. A missed chip shot field goal. A failed 2-point conversion (not sure if you hang that on ST). Add in that luckily a muffed punt didn't turn out to be a turnover. Special teams errors cost the Griz 4 points in a game that they lost by 3 - and spotted UNC 7. With all of the other issues that came up today an error-free ST game would have the Griz winning by 1 (or 2 as they'd not have gone for 2 after their last TD).

3. No vertical passing game. Chalich provides a great element of mobility and without his legs who knows if the Griz are even in this game today. The longest reception of the game came on a blown up JLM swing pass that he cut back and took for 46 yards. Otherwise a 27 yarder to Bingham and no other pass that was longer than 10 yards. When pressured the passing game was neutralized and turned into a mad scramble. The coaches adjusted to attack it in the 2nd half - but when needed (last drive of the game) it couldn't come through. Also Chad Chalich was sacked 6 times in the face of generally a 3 man rush. That's unacceptable.

4. Mental errors that veteran teams should not make. As mentioned there were dropped passes, there were overthrows, there were fumbles in the redzone, there were missed kicks, and there was the dropped snap on the punt. There were also some incredibly costly penalties. A penalty on an interception setting the offense back, when every yard and moment was needed. A cut-block and then follow up delay of game penalty that moved a drive back that wound up just scoring 3 points. An off-sides penalty that negated an interception (and the Griz drive after that series went 3 and out instead). Then the game-sealing personal foul (which Andrew Schmidt on twitter said was totally baited into - but it's always the retaliatory strike that gets flagged)

-------------

I thought today we saw so many positive points that will now mostly go unnoticed.

- Run blocking, especially up the middle was pretty good.

- Nguyen and Counts ran pretty damn well. Both had good games. Stepping up in the place of Calhoun and carrying the ball well.

- The defense still gave up 1 big play but actually did much better than we'd seen in weeks prior. There was some good QB pressure and QB hits, and the coverage (with a few noticeable exceptions) did their job.

- The dimension given with a QB that can make plays with his feet was still good.

----------------

0-4 in conference and 1-5 overall on the road is unacceptable. These types of performances as a whole are unacceptable. 4 loss (or worse) seasons are unacceptable. No one knows this more than the coaches, players, and administrators. A lot of focus and attention to execution, play calling, personnel, and game planning needs to continue and get better.

Would a 7-4 Griz team stand a chance to get in the playoffs? Possibly, it's a long shot, but now the Grizzlies destiny in the post season is well out of their hands. They'll need to win and get a lot of help. it's not impossible but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

This upcoming game we're honoring a group of seniors that's been through 3 different head coaches. They deserve our respect and our support. Let show up and send them off as winners.

Go Griz!
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Just curious BW? At what point did Stiff convince you that yards and plays run were the new empirical database for winning football games? ... :egriz:
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I'm a numbers guy, it was way before Stitt, probably Hauck
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Fair enough. How have the Griz performed in the red zone the last two years? I'm also curious what our pass to run ratio is? I ask this because I've always been concerned about the O-line taking a drop step vs forward run blocking... :egriz:
 
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