Post Game: 48 hours later

[AllWeatherFan]

What is the average blood alcohol content of people who post in the game thread?

 

[putter]

What is the average blood alcohol content of people who post in the game thread?

.20 at the lowest

 

[grizcountry420]

It was a good win against a quality opponent. The fact we got the win with three turnovers (one pick 6) is a testament to the tuff ness of this team. While I realize JJ was under a lot of pressure, he struggled. He under threw a number of passes and the 2nd INT was a pretty bad over throw - granted he was under pressure. It takes a good team to win a game when you do not play your best. The Griz are a good team.

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

 

[granitegriz]

I agree BW...although he was in the right position, that is tough for a DT.

 

[AZGrizFan]

It was a good win against a quality opponent. The fact we got the win with three turnovers (one pick 6) is a testament to the tuff ness of this team. While I realize JJ was under a lot of pressure, he struggled. He under threw a number of passes and the 2nd INT was a pretty bad over throw - granted he was under pressure. It takes a good team to win a game when you do not play your best. The Griz are a good team.

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

I disagree. They beat UNI (who just beat YSU). Took YSU to the buzzer. Hell, they played NAU closer than we did!

 

[bigkid]

South Dakota is a very good team. Especially on defense. A quality win on the road :thumb:

 

[mtgriz]

I do recall a couple critical missed tackles by TT on third down that allowed them to convert. Even a couple missed tackles can cost you a game especially when they keep drives alive for scores instead of punts

Honestly I could not believe that they had Takai running out to take the swing out of the backfield. How many times has anyone actually witnessed a DT track down a running back in space......crazy calls

It was a zone blitz...send the linebacker(s) and one or more linemen fall back into coverage zones. Recall we picked off the SFA quarterback a couple times with this scheme in the 51-0 2009 quarterfinal playoff win. The linemen aren't supposed to be man to man, the design is to have the pressure force the QB to make a quick decision w/o realizing someone is occupying the blitzer's area.

The quarterback defeated the scheme by swinging it out to the flat. Takai was simply running to the ball from his zone drop. I agree he really shouldn't be expected to make that play in space.

 

[grzz]

Every time I posted TACKLE!!! in the game thread, it was because someone missed a tackle...the defense made good adjustments in the second half, but pretending tackling isn't an issue for this defense isn't realistic. Very good point about the DT tracking down the RB, that is very tough, and could possibly speak to the scheme. I would be curious, and this got better as the day went on, but what were the down and distance of the third down conversions they had, especially in the first half. It seems as if we are very susceptible to giving those long yardage third downs up. And the screens worked against us a little too well at first.

Now, for the first time this season, I felt like the defense made good adjustments at half time. That was nice to see.

You have to hand it to this team. You don't get to this record this late in the season without doing some things right. They absolutely never give up, they are mentally tough, and I am firmly in the camp of a win is a win at this point.

Looking forward to the rest of the season.

 

[putter]

I do recall a couple critical missed tackles by TT on third down that allowed them to convert. Even a couple missed tackles can cost you a game especially when they keep drives alive for scores instead of punts

Honestly I could not believe that they had Takai running out to take the swing out of the backfield. How many times has anyone actually witnessed a DT track down a running back in space......crazy calls

It was a zone blitz...send the linebacker(s) and one or more linemen fall back into coverage zones. Recall we picked off the SFA quarterback a couple times with this scheme in the 51-0 2009 quarterfinal playoff win. The linemen aren't supposed to be man to man, the design is to have the pressure force the QB to make a quick decision w/o realizing someone is occupying the blitzer's area.

The quarterback defeated the scheme by swinging it out to the flat. Takai was simply running to the ball from his zone drop. I agree he really shouldn't be expected to make that play in space.

Yes, I do remember, I believe, Tyler Hobbs picking off a pass or two dropping back. I just don't think you want a DT/RB matchup at all and the Griz had it multiple times against SD. Also, when I heard Starr was 6' 5" and 250 lbs I almost chocked. That guy was an animal and moved extremely well for that size! We should be watching him on Sundays next year

 

[AZGrizFan]

You have to hand it to this team. You don't get to this record this late in the season without doing some things right.

If you were to believe some on eGriz, you apparently DO get to this record without doing ANYTHING right. :lol:

 

[grizcountry420]

It was a good win against a quality opponent. The fact we got the win with three turnovers (one pick 6) is a testament to the tuff ness of this team. While I realize JJ was under a lot of pressure, he struggled. He under threw a number of passes and the 2nd INT was a pretty bad over throw - granted he was under pressure. It takes a good team to win a game when you do not play your best. The Griz are a good team.

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

I disagree. They beat UNI (who just beat YSU). Took YSU to the buzzer. Hell, they played NAU closer than we did!

Their defense is really good but their offense is what holds them back..

 

[AZGrizFan]

It was a good win against a quality opponent. The fact we got the win with three turnovers (one pick 6) is a testament to the tuff ness of this team. While I realize JJ was under a lot of pressure, he struggled. He under threw a number of passes and the 2nd INT was a pretty bad over throw - granted he was under pressure. It takes a good team to win a game when you do not play your best. The Griz are a good team.

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

I disagree. They beat UNI (who just beat YSU). Took YSU to the buzzer. Hell, they played NAU closer than we did!

Their defense is really good but their offense is what holds them back..

Agreed. And our team is probably just the opposite. So are we not a "quality" opponent? They are really not far from being a good team...and they're a much better team with Neal at QB than whoever they had before.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Anyone recall before the Cal Poly game, people asking how would this team do in a close game? I think that question has been answered.

Brint, I got the same from the game as you did as for the defense. I have been really hard on the defense this season. There is a huge difference in seeing a team play live verses on tv or internet streaming. I witnessed more personnel changes, experimenting, and strategic changes than I thought. I do recall seeing Gamboa out there a lot more on defense against USD more than before. I also noticed more than just Goodwin playing closer to the line of scrimmage. I can tell you all, Gregorak and the staff do see the problems, and are doing what they can to improve pass defense. If they can improve game to game, maybe our DL will have a chance to get sacks again. So many teams are using quicker pass play designs against us, they are reducing the impact the front 7 can have. That is smart coaching though.

I commented on the postgame thread how much improvement I seen from the USD game. This defense is not too far off. This year they are very close to being a very good defense. Last season, not the case. I also am not worried about our safety play for rest this season and going into next season. Hermanson is playing at an all conference level, and should be just that next season. Tully does not make as many mistakes as people give him rap for. Do I think he is all conference? Certainly not. I do think he is better than we give him credit for. His play in the 2nd half against USD was solid, and the difference maker when USD got into the redzone on the series he stopped the short pass in the flat inside the 5 or 10. He also made a very smart play to end the game. Also Gamboa improves our pass defense as a safety/LB combo player.

The mistakes on defense are very minor, compared to the major mistakes last season. Then again, I only have one game to go off live. Prior to the USD game, I was very hard on this defense. I actually believe there is much more hope in this defense than I thought before the USD game. Minor improvement from game to game will help this team out a lot.

 

[grzz]

You have to hand it to this team. You don't get to this record this late in the season without doing some things right.

If you were to believe some on eGriz, you apparently DO get to this record without doing ANYTHING right. :lol:

You are right, my mistake! :lol:

 

[grizcountry420]

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

I disagree. They beat UNI (who just beat YSU). Took YSU to the buzzer. Hell, they played NAU closer than we did!

Their defense is really good but their offense is what holds them back..

Agreed. And our team is probably just the opposite. So are we not a "quality" opponent? They are really not far from being a good team...and they're a much better team with Neal at QB than whoever they had before.

I guess you could say that quality teams find a way to win at the end of the game.. USD has been on the losing end many times when they should have won those games. I know what you're saying though..

 

[grizfan95]

Since Brint mentioned Henderson's block:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0OWsYwPIX0[/youtube]

 

[tgriz]

I do think they were a quality opponent; though the Griz lately have made everyone look like a quality opponent. Sac State, at team that put up 600 yards and 48 points on us last week, scored 7 in a blow out loss to Cal Poly this week. The Griz defense gave up 6.2 yards a carry. I thought both lines were man-handled by USD. Our pass rush was non existent as it has been most of the year.

I thought JJ played well under constant pressure and took a beating. I hope we get Van and Counts back soon. I think a better running game will take some of the pressure off him.

Tully's play at the end of the half was HUGE. I really think both safeties have played really well all year.

 

[yellowstone60]

It was a good win against a quality opponent. The fact we got the win with three turnovers (one pick 6) is a testament to the tuff ness of this team. While I realize JJ was under a lot of pressure, he struggled. He under threw a number of passes and the 2nd INT was a pretty bad over throw - granted he was under pressure. It takes a good team to win a game when you do not play your best. The Griz are a good team.

I'm sorry but a team with a 4-6 record is not a quality opponent...

I disagree. They beat UNI (who just beat YSU). Took YSU to the buzzer. Hell, they played NAU closer than we did!

really, who is better, a 4-6 team who has had good opponents or a 8-2 team who has played cupcakes....the W/L does not always tell the complete story, cant entirely judge a team by that. Thanks BW for this thread. Many want to focus on the negative, so it is fair game to discuss the positive, which this team has a lot of ! I, for one, love this team....Go Griz !!

 

[#15 Fan]

The only thing that has frustrated me is watching our d-line: when we rush 4 and drop our LB's into coverage, we rarely run any stunts. Thus, I see time and time again our tackles getting pushed outside when they should be trying to contain part of the middle. I think this was THE reason why the USD QB had so many rushing yards, cuz it certainly wasn't his blistering tortoise speed or his SSH-like shiftiness. Couple that with the fact that our LB's are 7+ yds deep off the line, and it's a clear shot up field for 3-5 yds. The last couple of games where our d-line has gotten awesome pressure on the QB came from some good stunts, and even taking a stunt and bringing a delayed blitz from JP or Tripp. Anyone else noticing this?

 

[grizfan47]

Hey Brint, we finally got to watch the game last night after being on planes all day yesterday. Glad to be home.

I "watched" the game on Saturday via egriz game thread and texts. I kept waiting to see an ugly game last night and it didn't happen. Of course, it is much easier to watch a close game when you know the outcome. It is amazing how much emotion distorts facts. That is why I always record the games and watch them again when we get home from Missoula.

I think SD was a very quality team and a good win. I had predicted a good game from the beginning believing that SD would be a tough well coached team.

I saw lots of improvement this week in tackling and game adjustments. Is there room for more improvment? Absolutly. But the Griz are headed in the right direction.

I think the early bye week is realy showing up now. It would have been nice to have had it during the last part of the season to get some guys healed up. We are really missing Van and Counts along with guys playing with lots nagging dings.

Over all, I think it was a solid road win over a solid opponent.