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POLL: How many games do the Griz win in 2013
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ilovethecats said:Paytonlives said:
i usually avoid these threads because they are pretty pointless. griz fans will have the griz winning 12+ games and making an appearance in the chipper. cat fans will have the cats doing the same. everyone is a homer.
that said....your take seems to lack any objectivity. let's say i agree with everything you said about the griz. and fyi....i do agree with a lot. the griz should be a much better team this year. so you gave a bunch of good examples of why your griz might show such improvement. care to do the same for the cats will suddenly be a 6 win team?!
if interested...that is a bet i'll happily take....
What I was trying to say was that there is a much better chance of the griz being much better, then the cats staying at the level of last year. Targets are an amazing thing... the cats will get everyones best game- just like the griz did for 10+ years.
ilovethecats
Well-known member
Paytonlives said:
that makes sense. as i said i think the griz should improve quite a bit this year. i just don't see the cats falling off the planet like that, winning 6 games, and missing the playoffs. that just doesn't seem realistic.
obviously none of this can be proven anyway. it's all relative. what is "much better"? if the griz make the playoffs that seems to be much better than last year. and for the cats, what is the "same level"? do you not think we can win or share the big sky again? i do. i could see us getting a bye too.
i guess what i'm saying is this. if the shoe were on the other foot and i was making claims that the griz would suck and the cats were easily going from missing the playoffs to making the national championship you'd say i was crazy and delusional. you think griz fans would know better. i have seen delusional cat fans for years claiming "this is the year" that the cats will dominate and the griz will suck! and more years than not they were wrong...
i think the griz have pieces in place to be a good team next season and compete for a conference title. i see them as a playoff team. but sadly for some here...i have the same hopes for the cats.
PlayerRep said:
Oh Geezus... nice back pedal! My "Pass the pipe" comment was CLEARLY directed towards his predictions for the griz next year... INCLUDING the point spreads. Give me a break. So you're trying to get me to bet you on whether or not the griz have a winning season? Have I, or has any Cat fan on this board once predicted a losing season for the griz in 2013? How F'n dumb do you think we are? (Don't answer that :lol: ).
Ok, so let's forget about the ridiculous point spreads... his overall prediction is that the griz end up at either 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 regular season. I'll bet you straight up right now that you don't do that. Loser quits posting on this board forever. Put up or shut up.
grizhunter
Well-known member
Now that is a good bet, no way PR takes that challenge.
poorgriz said:
No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?
I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.
grizbrokebacker1
Well-known member
Question:
When is a loss not a loss?
Answer:
When it's a loss by the Griz by fewer than 10 points and at some point during the game they held the lead.
By these standards, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of teams would go undefeated every year. Congrats Griz, you earned this....
When is a loss not a loss?
Answer:
When it's a loss by the Griz by fewer than 10 points and at some point during the game they held the lead.
By these standards, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of teams would go undefeated every year. Congrats Griz, you earned this....
No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?
I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.
Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.
Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.
So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.
I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.
Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.
Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.
So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.
grizbrokebacker1 said:Question:
When is a loss not a loss?
Answer:
When it's a loss by the Griz by fewer than 10 points and at some point during the game they held the lead.
By these standards, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of teams would go undefeated every year. Congrats Griz, you earned this....
Which is better way to judge the quality of UM's 2012 team/season? By the quality of the teams UM beat, or by the way UM played in its losses? Just answer the question.
Here's part of Payton's analysis of the 2012 team/season. Don't see him discussing the games UM won.
"While it is true that UM lost 6 games, the loses were by 8, 10, 6, 10, 6, & 9. Not exactly the flaming fire bomb that catboxers think it was. Remember, (oh thats right you are a cat- so facts are irrelevant) that in most of those loses the Griz lead or were driving to take the lead late in the game. These loses came with QB's that were not ready to be a starter, young O-Line, a new coaching staff, a secondary mess & all the offseason turmoil that came with the JJ trial and news reports."
poorgriz said:No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?
I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.
Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.
Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.
So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.
Nope, looks at the title of the thread: "POLL: How many games do the Griz win in 2013". Not mention of "points spreads". I had already said I thought Payton's scores were too high, and obviously wasn't going to bet using score amounts that I didn't think were good. You need to learn how to read, as well as write.
grizbrokebacker1
Well-known member
PlayerRep said:grizbrokebacker1 said:Question:
When is a loss not a loss?
Answer:
When it's a loss by the Griz by fewer than 10 points and at some point during the game they held the lead.
By these standards, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of teams would go undefeated every year. Congrats Griz, you earned this....
Which is better way to judge the quality of UM's 2012 team/season? By the quality of the teams UM beat, or by the way UM played in its losses? Just answer the question.
Here's part of Payton's analysis of the 2012 team/season. Don't see him discussing the games UM won.
"While it is true that UM lost 6 games, the loses were by 8, 10, 6, 10, 6, & 9. Not exactly the flaming fire bomb that catboxers think it was. Remember, (oh thats right you are a cat- so facts are irrelevant) that in most of those loses the Griz lead or were driving to take the lead late in the game. These loses came with QB's that were not ready to be a starter, young O-Line, a new coaching staff, a secondary mess & all the offseason turmoil that came with the JJ trial and news reports."
You just don't get it, do you? Don't try to overanalyze it, you'll hurt your brain.
PlayerRep said:poorgriz said:No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?
I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.
Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.
Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.
So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.
Nope, looks at the title of the thread: "POLL: How many games do the Griz win in 2013". Not mention of "points spreads". I had already said I thought Payton's scores were too high, and obviously wasn't going to bet using score amounts that I didn't think were good. You need to learn how to read, as well as write.
I need to learn how to read and write? You might want to review your last post before throwing comments like that out there. Typically that's when someone knows they are losing an argument... when they resort to grammar smack.
Do you really need me to go back up and show you exactly which post of his I was responding to... (and quoted) that included all the score predictions... where I said "Pass the pipe"? Who gives a shit what the title of the poll was. You can't really be that dense. So enough back peddling and spinning here. You obviously don't believe in his overall W\L prediction for the griz... or you would have bet me? So what is your prediction for where the griz end up regular season in 2013?
ilovethecats
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another egriz instant classic!
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ilovethecats said:
Anytime you got pg, 25.06, and gbb1 posting on the same thread, it's going to turn to shit immediately.
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