POLL: How many games do the Griz win in 2013

[bluemarlin2]

Buck up little campers, it will be ok.

 

[PlayerRep]

While it is true that UM lost 6 games, the loses were by 8, 10, 6, 10, 6, & 9. Not exactly the flaming fire bomb that catboxers think it was. Remember, (oh thats right you are a cat- so facts are irrelevant) that in most of those loses the Griz lead or were driving to take the lead late in the game. These loses came with QB's that were not ready to be a starter, young O-Line, a new coaching staff, a secondary mess & all the offseason turmoil that came with the JJ trial and news reports.

In all but 2 of those losses, if the fizz had scored in those late drives, they would not have taken the lead. They best they could hope for in one was to have tied with a low percentage 2 pt. In half of them a sore would not have even tied the game so by your facts 33% is most :lol: :lol: :lol:

App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7.

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

 

[PlayerRep]

No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?

I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.

Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.

Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.

So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.

I called out the Sac St game, because I think UM could lose the game. Had nothing to do with the score amount. "Some games" means some games. What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[Cats2506]

In all but 2 of those losses, if the fizz had scored in those late drives, they would not have taken the lead. They best they could hope for in one was to have tied with a low percentage 2 pt. In half of them a sore would not have even tied the game so by your facts 33% is most :lol: :lol: :lol:

App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7.

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

 

[PlayerRep]

App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7.

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

 

[grizbrokebacker1]

another egriz instant classic!

:grenade:

Anytime you got pg, 25.06, and gbb1 posting on the same thread, it's going to turn to shit immediately.

I only post on about 1 out of every 20 threads. What's the excuse for the other 19? :lol:

 

[Cats2506]

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Your question is pointless, no need to waste time with it
Do you evaluate a team only by the offense and ignore the defense? any decent analysis will look at both wins and losses, I have provided that and the 2012 fizz suck, end of story

 

[PlayerRep]

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Your question is pointless, no need to waste time with it
Do you evaluate a team only by the offense and ignore the defense? any decent analysis will look at both wins and losses, I have provided that and the 2012 fizz suck, end of story

My question isn't pointless--because that was the topic of the discussion. I knew you either wouldn't understand or be evasive. The Griz had a back season, but they didn't suck. In my view, they were a better team than the Cats, even though the Cats won.

 

[Cats2506]

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Your question is pointless, no need to waste time with it
Do you evaluate a team only by the offense and ignore the defense? any decent analysis will look at both wins and losses, I have provided that and the 2012 fizz suck, end of story

My question isn't pointless--because that was the topic of the discussion. I knew you either wouldn't understand or be evasive. The Griz had a back season, but they didn't suck. In my view, they were a better team than the Cats, even though the Cats won.

you are the only one that made it a topick of discussion, 5-6 = less than 50% = sucks big time

 

[grizbrokebacker1]

The Griz had a back season, but they didn't suck. In my view, they were a better team than the Cats, even though the Cats won.

I knew there was a reason I read this site. The comic relief is priceless.

 

[AZGrizFan]

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Great. After all we've been through and now I'm just "another poster" to you? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[Cats2506]

If the topic is evaluating the quality of the UM 2012 team (and it was), which way would be better for making the analysis: the type/quality of UM's losses (to generally to good teams) or the quality of the team's UM beat? Those were the only 2 choices, when I first made my post. Can you just answer the question?

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Great. After all we've been through and now I'm just "another poster" to you? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

And not a very good one either, I might add

 

[Teton Cat]

While it is true that UM lost 6 games, the loses were by 8, 10, 6, 10, 6, & 9. Not exactly the flaming fire bomb that catboxers think it was. Remember, (oh thats right you are a cat- so facts are irrelevant) that in most of those loses the Griz lead or were driving to take the lead late in the game. These loses came with QB's that were not ready to be a starter, young O-Line, a new coaching staff, a secondary mess & all the offseason turmoil that came with the JJ trial and news reports.

In all but 2 of those losses, if the fizz had scored in those late drives, they would not have taken the lead. They best they could hope for in one was to have tied with a low percentage 2 pt. In half of them a sore would not have even tied the game so by your facts 33% is most :lol: :lol: :lol:

App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7.

:lol: :lol: I love you using the ""quality loss" argument. :thumb:

I suppose when the Appy Mountineers blow into Wa-Griz this Fall and bend over the Griz a la' "Deliverance" style it will be forever remembered as the first "Quality Loss" of the 2013 season since some of the fan base i.e. PR achieved some satisfaction/gratification from the experience :mrgreen:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Well of the teams you beat, only 1 had a winning record, and they come from what is considerred a weak conference
USD 1-10
Liberty 6-5
UNC 5-6
ISU 1-10
WSU 2-9

No looking at the teams that beat you, well you were only within a touchdown in 2 of the 6, and the other 4 you lost by more than a touchdown so either way you look at it the 2012 fizz really sucked, you can spin it any way you want but it all come down to that in the end.

You still didn't answer the question. As between the 2 choices, which is the best way to evaluate the 2012 UM team. X or Y. If you're just going to be evasive, don't bother to answer.

And, as another poster said earlier:

"App State game....we trailed by 1 with 5:05 to go.
EWU game...we led by 9 with 8:26 to go and trailed by just 2 with 2:19 to go
SUU game...game was tied with 2:12 to go
UND game....we led with 2:00 to go
MSU game...we were down by 6 with 2:32 to go

So, the statement that we either "led or were driving to take the lead late in the game" in most of the losses is pretty factual. The only game we weren't close in late in the 4th was the NAU game, a game we actually led at one point 24-7."

Great. After all we've been through and now I'm just "another poster" to you? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

And not a very good one either, I might add

Why you son-of-a..... :twisted: :twisted:

 

[poorgriz]

No backpedal by me. There was no mention of "point spreads", until you belatedly brought it up. Your "pass the pipe" comment did not say anything about point spreads and certainly didn't "clearly" include point spreads. In point of fact, Payton's comment did not mention "point spreads" either, as he wasn't setting up a bet, he just stated some scores. I had previously said the following in this thread: "Nice analysis. I don't see UM winning quite that big in some games." After saying that, how could you possibility think I'd want to bet on Payton's (non) "point spreads", when I had already said the margins were too high?

I'll be happy to take you on AZGriz's recent bet suggestion on season record.

Uh... his prediction of how the season would play out INCLUDED ALL THE SCORE PREDICTIONS... so how can you say there was no mention of point spreads until I blatantly brought it up? Wow - people are stranger, and more delusional over here than I thought. Regarding you comment about SOME of the scores predictions being out of line, you then went on to call out only one game... Sac State on the road. So that leads me to believe that you generally agreed with most of his predictions.

Not once did you call out his overall prediction of an 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 season as being out of line. I did, and in fact when I made fun of those predictions with my "Pass the pipe" comment, that's when you called me out and tried to bet on the season.

So basically you need to admit that his overall prediction was too homerish... or you need to bet me about the griz going 12-0 or 11 and 1 in 2013. Anything else is simply back peddling.

I called out the Sac St game, because I think UM could lose the game. Had nothing to do with the score amount. "Some games" means some games. What's so hard to understand about that?

Ok, so you called me out for making fun of the 11 and 1 or 12 and 0 prediction, so you must think it's realistic? What's your best guess for the final regular season record?

 

[grizrgood]

Someone needs to create a new web site called egrizenvy.com, only cat fans are allowed to post!! :?

 

[mtgrizrule]

Someone needs to create a new web site called egrizenvy.com, only cat fans are allowed to post!! :?

:lol: :thumb:

 

[poiuyter]

It's not about winning. It's about the quality of the losses.

I.E.- The Griz have lost 5 championship games, but those were quality losses. So they don't count as real losses.


:shock: :clap: :thumb: :roll:

 

[rimrockgriz]

Someone needs to create a new web site called egrizenvy.com, only cat fans are allowed to post!! :?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumb: :egriz:

 

[Griz90]

Griz win 10. Beat the cats. Make the playoffs. Maybe win national championship. Good season.