Would people quit arguing with hav...he almost knows as much as PR...
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Playoffs..are we toast?
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George Ferguson
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NOPE. I just KNOW the Griz are a lock at 8-4. I know at 8-4 there will be a first-round playoff game Thanksgiving weekend in Wash-Griz. I know I'll be there. Beyond that, I don't know. And like I said, I don't care who else gets in or doesn't. Like I said, I am not a Cal Poly fan. I didn't go to school there, or play for them. I've never been to San Luis Obispo, though I hear it's an amazing place. As a Griz fan, why should I care if they deserve to get in and don't? Especially at the expense of my own favorite team???
Because you are supposed to hope for failure so you can say "I told you so." That's a lot better than being optimistic, and possibly being let down. In the latter instance, you would have to admit you were wrong if things go poorly. In the former instance you get to be "pleasantly surprised" if things don't go poorly.
ilovethecats
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CDAGRIZ said:
wow. i had an almost identical post today on BN. you sir, are clearly as elite of a poster as i am!
havgrizfan said:
I am curious, what factors have the Griz in before Poly?
George Ferguson
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Currently ranked like 20-plus spots ahead of Poly in both Polls, AND YES, if you ask Jim O'Day, the FCS Coaches Poll carries alot of clout with the committee. Ranked WAYYYYYYYYYY ahead of Poly in the Gridiron Power Index and Sagarin, BOTH which carry alot of weight as well. The Gridiron Power Index is the poll the committee most closely monitors with it's conference call each week. Strength of Schedule. And honestly, RESPECT (Right or Wrong). Also, a decent gate receipt for even a Thanksgiving Weekend home game. Those are all HEAVY factors in the process.
But I'm done arguing the reasons why Cal Poly won't be selected. One of us will be right and one of us will be wrong. If I'm wrong, as in Cal Poly gets in and the Griz don't at 8-4, I'll be right here to admit I was wrong. I have no problem doing so.
But I'm done arguing the reasons why Cal Poly won't be selected. One of us will be right and one of us will be wrong. If I'm wrong, as in Cal Poly gets in and the Griz don't at 8-4, I'll be right here to admit I was wrong. I have no problem doing so.
havgrizfan said:
Well, if you look back at all of my posts, I have never said Cal Poly would get in over an 8-4 Griz team.
ilovethecats said:CDAGRIZ said:
wow. i had an almost identical post today on BN. you sir, are clearly as elite of a poster as i am!
Haha. I suppose elite recognizes elite. I hope to see you at the Elite Expo next year.
EDIT: I went to BN for the first time in months and found your post. It's eerily similar. Are you my real dad?
Robsnotes4u
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havgrizfan said:
Good thing you brought up GPI. You also know trending up or down is huge. Well the new GPI came out today.
Montana
Last week 22
This week 29
Montana State
Last week blank
this week T20
Cal Poly
Last week 25
This week T31
Looks like both Cal Poly and the Griz are trending the wrong way at out of the top 25. Better hope it doesn't carry as much weight as you think
http://www.collegesportingnews.com/articles/20141111gpi.htm
Robsnotes4u said:
The GPI is important. With 2 wins, UM will move up considerably. As teams above UM lose, and multiple teams will, they will drop. Harvard is above and won't be in playoffs. There are about 9 MV conference teams above UM. Several or more of those MV teams will lose (as they play each other) and drop, and 9 MV teams certainly aren't going to the playoffs. The UNI AD said in the video that UNI didn't go last year in large part because you can't finish 7th in the conference and expect to go to the playoffs. With 2 wins,and others losing, UM should easily be in the teens in the GPI.
Lets hope we win out. If not we have one long season to bitch post.
If we win out we are in and rolling.
If we get that far we must hope we make a great showing to get some excitement back.
But first we must beat these two upcoming teams and that will define our season.
If we win out we are in and rolling.
If we get that far we must hope we make a great showing to get some excitement back.
But first we must beat these two upcoming teams and that will define our season.
Robsnotes4u
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PlayerRep said:
I guess you aren't in the know like you think. GPI isn't used at all anymore. You might want to do a little research. The bottom 5 conferences thought the GPI skewed the numbers against them. The Committee took that under advisement, and it will not be used.
Don't have the interview, but here.
Robsnotes4u said:PlayerRep said:
I guess you aren't in the know like you think. GPI isn't used at all anymore. You might want to do a little research. The bottom 5 conferences thought the GPI skewed the numbers against them. The Committee took that under advisement, and it will not be used.
Don't have the interview, but here.
Historically, the committee used the GPI and it was fairly important. Last year, the FCS created its own similar index, with some adjustments. It tried to combine results and SOS. The SRS (SImple Rating System) index used by the committee didn't actually work very well last year, at least in my view. Part of the reason was that some of the adjustments (I think it was the use or limitation of point differentials) seemed to throw off the index. There was chatter about adjusting the index, not necessarily from the committee members. Don't know what, if anything, was done, tho.
I didn't say the committee used the GPI. I said it was important. Historically, the GPI has been fairly close to what the committee actually did. I think the GPI is a fairly good and important indicator of where teams will rank. You keep talking about Massey, but I don't believe the committee has ever considered Massey.
You need to learn how to read. Again, the GPI is important, because it is and has been an indicator that has been a bit more accurate than the polls. Saying it is important for that reason, doesn't mean the committee uses it. I also note that your tweet refers to "last" year, not this year, which is not to say that I know or think it would used this year either.
Robsnotes4u
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PlayerRep said:Robsnotes4u said:PlayerRep said:
I guess you aren't in the know like you think. GPI isn't used at all anymore. You might want to do a little research. The bottom 5 conferences thought the GPI skewed the numbers against them. The Committee took that under advisement, and it will not be used.
Don't have the interview, but here.
Historically, the committee used the GPI and it was fairly important. Last year, the FCS created its own similar index, with some adjustments. It tried to combine results and SOS. The SRS (SImple Rating System) index used by the committee didn't actually work very well last year, at least in my view. Part of the reason was that some of the adjustments (I think it was the use or limitation of point differentials) seemed to throw off the index. There was chatter about adjusting the index, not necessarily from the committee members. Don't know what, if anything, was done, tho.
I didn't say the committee used the GPI. I said it was important. Historically, the GPI has been fairly close to what the committee actually did. I think the GPI is a fairly good and important indicator of where teams will rank. You keep talking about Massey, but I don't believe the committee has ever considered Massey.
You need to learn how to read. Again, the GPI is important, because it is and has been an indicator that has been a bit more accurate than the polls. Saying it is important for that reason, doesn't mean the committee uses it. I also note that your tweet refers to "last" year, not this year, which is not to say that I know or think it would used this year either.
If it is not used, then it has zero importance for the selection committee. Common Sense.
Evolution. The GPI is not used anymore. Sorry. You should have listened to the interview.
statler & waldorf
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After tonight, hopefully not just an aberration, maybe there is a chance, a chance, at the NC! But that's me, seldom wrong, but never in doubt.
IdaGriz01
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It's been pretty much a given that the Griz had to win today/tonight to get a bid. But: How much does a total beat-down of the #12 team count ... up and down. I felt confident the Griz would get a bid when they won ...but also thought the kitties would too, even after a loss, based on their overall "body of work." Now I'm not so sure.
And with NAU losing, ISU with its two D-II wins ... could the Big Sky be down to just two bids? (At the moment, CP is winning, but not by much, against San Diego.)
And with NAU losing, ISU with its two D-II wins ... could the Big Sky be down to just two bids? (At the moment, CP is winning, but not by much, against San Diego.)