Patrick LeCorre

[jodcon]

“I want to get on my soap box for a minute since I have the stage and talk about the word commitment,” Ash said. “The recruiting process is brutal. It’s excruciating and very challenging for the recruits and the coaches alike. The decisions are very difficult and life-changing for both parties, but in the end, when scholarships are involved, once we get to Signing Day, we have to have a scholarship for each player we’ve promised one to. The only way we can do that is we have to make a commitment to them. We will have money for them on signing day. This can’t just be a one-way street. We can’t have a system in place where recruits can commit to schools in order to save themselves a scholarship an then continue to shop themselves around to other schools looking for a better offer. As coaches and educators of the youth of America, we need to teach these young men that a commitment is a commitment. They need to stick to their commitment if they make one or they need to be honest and declare that they are still open for recruitment. On our side of the deal, we need to honor commitments as coaches when they are made by recruits to other schools so that we can move on to other players and let them be committed. Without honor, our profession and our sport will become tarnished. We are passing on the wrong lessons to the men we are about to bring under our guidance. I intend to pursue this message in all my future professional gatherings, business meetings, national meetings, conventions and so forth. I am going to ask for the support of my coaching colleagues from around the country that we are sending the wrong message and that error needs to be corrected. That commitment is a commitment.”

My main reason for backing Ash isn't because I like his idea, but it's to try to curtail all the posts about the cats that invade nearly every thread.

I fully back Ash also, but for different reasons.

 

[stonecrest]

Why don't you take you soap box over to kitten nation.....

 

[garizzalies]

Gwen, I hope you make him wear a rubber. They don't call him Ron Jeremy Rash for nothing.

 

[statler & waldorf]

My main reeason for backing Ash isn't because I like his idea, but it's to try to curtail all the posts about the cats that invade nearly every thread.

On a Griz site??? :lol: What are the odds? :roll: Ash makes or breaks his own legacy. You want pro-Cat, try BN. :mrgreen:

 

[getgrizzy]

My main reeason for backing Ash isn't because I like his idea, but it's to try to curtail all the posts about the cats that invade nearly every thread.

On a Griz site??? :lol: What are the odds? :roll: Ash makes or breaks his own legacy. You want pro-Cat, try BN. :mrgreen:

I doubt I'm the only poster who's tired of opening a thread about something related to Griz football and finding Cat posts, but if you want to talk Cats then start a thread about them there or I'll just continue to give examples of why you shouldn't post about the Cats. Especially when the post reeks of Cat envy. Ash is right about this regardless of who he's coaching and people trying to rip him over it make our fans look like dipshits.

 

[getgrizzy]

“I want to get on my soap box for a minute since I have the stage and talk about the word commitment,” Ash said. “The recruiting process is brutal. It’s excruciating and very challenging for the recruits and the coaches alike. The decisions are very difficult and life-changing for both parties, but in the end, when scholarships are involved, once we get to Signing Day, we have to have a scholarship for each player we’ve promised one to. The only way we can do that is we have to make a commitment to them. We will have money for them on signing day. This can’t just be a one-way street. We can’t have a system in place where recruits can commit to schools in order to save themselves a scholarship an then continue to shop themselves around to other schools looking for a better offer. As coaches and educators of the youth of America, we need to teach these young men that a commitment is a commitment. They need to stick to their commitment if they make one or they need to be honest and declare that they are still open for recruitment. On our side of the deal, we need to honor commitments as coaches when they are made by recruits to other schools so that we can move on to other players and let them be committed. Without honor, our profession and our sport will become tarnished. We are passing on the wrong lessons to the men we are about to bring under our guidance. I intend to pursue this message in all my future professional gatherings, business meetings, national meetings, conventions and so forth. I am going to ask for the support of my coaching colleagues from around the country that we are sending the wrong message and that error needs to be corrected. That commitment is a commitment.”

My main reason for backing Ash isn't because I like his idea, but it's to try to curtail all the posts about the cats that invade nearly every thread.

Maybe stop f***[*] posting about the Cats then? Just a thought. Oh, wait, you won't. That's right. Because anti-UM posts or pro-MSU posts are pretty much all you do. So f***[*] obvious.

Way to keep it civil. You just don't like having your faulty anti-Bobcat theory exposed for the non-researched garbage that it is. Had you followed what's going on you wouldnt make egriz look lame. Instead you read what other ill-informed posters say and if it's a slam on EWU or MSU you just chime in. Congrats on those great skills you've acquired over the years they're really serving you well on your quest to become the biggest bonehead in the history of life on this planet. I'll be looking for your name on the next list of Darwin Awards.

 

[statler & waldorf]

This is a Griz site. Duh! Feel free to flee.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Especially when the post reeks of Cat envy.

I was staying out of this particular pissing match, but... I can't help it now. Cat Envy? Seriously? :lol:

What exactly do the Griz have to be envious of?

Their amazing 2-6 record against the Griz since Ash became their coach?
Their incredible 2-4 playoff record under Ash?
Getting to the playoffs 50% of the time under Ash?
Limping into the playoffs in the midst of the usual end of season collapse when they do get to the playoffs?
Their "This is going to be the year!" hopes being destroyed every year in November?
Watching their coach throw their star QB under the bus after yet another disappointing end to a season?
Watching their coach throw temper tantrums about commitment?

I could go on. But do I really need to? On a related note, I really like Ash as the Cat head coach.

 

[statler & waldorf]

Beat em to death with facts. Cruel, very cruel.

 

[stonecrest]

Cat fans don't deal with the facts. If the did -they wouldn't be scat fans.......

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Maybe stop f***[*] posting about the Cats then? Just a thought. Oh, wait, you won't. That's right. Because anti-UM posts or pro-MSU posts are pretty much all you do. So f***[*] obvious.

Way to keep it civil. You just don't like having your faulty anti-Bobcat theory exposed for the non-researched garbage that it is. Had you followed what's going on you wouldnt make egriz look lame. Instead you read what other ill-informed posters say and if it's a slam on EWU or MSU you just chime in. Congrats on those great skills you've acquired over the years they're really serving you well on your quest to become the biggest bonehead in the history of life on this planet. I'll be looking for your name on the next list of Darwin Awards.

Whoa, you've really outed yourself now, haha! :lol:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Especially when the post reeks of Cat envy.

I was staying out of this particular pissing match, but... I can't help it now. Cat Envy? Seriously? :lol:

What exactly do the Griz have to be envious of?

Their amazing 2-6 record against the Griz since Ash became their coach?
Their incredible 2-4 playoff record under Ash?
Getting to the playoffs 50% of the time under Ash?
Limping into the playoffs in the midst of the usual end of season collapse when they do get to the playoffs?
Their "This is going to be the year!" hopes being destroyed every year in November?
Watching their coach throw their star QB under the bus after yet another disappointing end to a season?
Watching their coach throw temper tantrums about commitment?

I could go on. But do I really need to? On a related note, I really like Ash as the Cat head coach.

Great post. Ron Ash's Bobcats are a complete failure by any metric. Complement that with his apparent "me first" attitude with regard to player relations, and it's an embarrassment. As a coach, you are certainly free to think that Player A cost you the season, or Player B is unethical, but what kind of a Division I coach says those things (or even insinuates them) to the media?

 

[EverettGriz]

Now I recall why years ago I committed to putting getgrizzy on "Ignore". I enjoyed that time immensely.
Recently I began to believe -- incorrectly, clearly -- that his sanity had returned and took him off that setting. I fully and completely regret that decision.

I guess I could learn a thing or two from Coach Ron Ash about commitment.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Given Ron Ash's diatribe re: coaches committing to players, and players committing to coaches, one wonders how he told his players at his former place of employment he was leaving for what he thought was a better job. Didn't he leave them in a bit of a scramble to find a replacement? Two-way street, eh?

 

[getgrizzy]

So if I'm looking for another job I should accept that job and leave my current job on zero days notice?

If I'm not happy with my wife I should marry someone else before I get a divorce?

If I place an order at a restaurant, but then decide I'm hungry for something else I should get up and leave?

That's the ridiculous line of thinking you're adopting here?

Like almost all coaches not named bobby Petrino, Ash informed his employer that he was putting in for another job. The folks at Drake don't dislike Rob Ash. Ash is one of the most respected coaches in football. There are things you can dislike about Ash, but this isn't one of them.

 

[getgrizzy]

Now I recall why years ago I committed to putting getgrizzy on "Ignore". I enjoyed that time immensely.
Recently I began to believe -- incorrectly, clearly -- that his sanity had returned and took him off that setting. I fully and completely regret that decision.

I guess I could learn a thing or two from Coach Ron Ash about commitment.

Well aren't you just the epitome of self importance.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Now I recall why years ago I committed to putting getgrizzy on "Ignore". I enjoyed that time immensely.
Recently I began to believe -- incorrectly, clearly -- that his sanity had returned and took him off that setting. I fully and completely regret that decision.

I guess I could learn a thing or two from Coach Ron Ash about commitment.

Well aren't you just the epitome of self importance.

Your strained platitudes are just lip gloss on what that porker is now, and has been for his entire time at MSU. You can dress him up all you want but his actions are what do the talking, not your apologies, excuses and deflections. Everything pointed out about this swine by any Griz fan on this forum can be found coming out of the mouths of Cat fans on BCN. You can find most of it withing hours of each Griz-Cat debacle during his tenure.

 

[Griz2k]

I like Coach Ash and hope the cats keep him for a very, very long time.

 

[SoldierGriz]

I like Coach Ash and hope the cats keep him for a very, very long time.

Yep, votes are tallied. Status quo at state. Griz faithful want him, and they want him as well. Done.

 

[poorgriz]

There's an awful lot of discussion about the MSU BOBCATS and our coach over here... keep it up! I'd think someone would maybe start a thread about your own coach, Bob Stint, and discuss what the odds are that this experiment works? Is he the one that will lead you to once again being able to compete for a Big Sky title... or is it still going to be MSU and EWU battling it out for the title as it has been for the past five years? :lol: