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BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us

AKA your best bud Growler...100 percent
 
PlayerRep said:
If UM is 6-5 with loss to Cats, Haslam will be in a tough position. Will be feeling the heat from alums and supporters. A one year extension would look a bit funny and perhaps not be well-received by the coach. Assume 7-4 is an easier decision. If Haslam wants to keep Stitt, I suppose he has the QB injuries to point to. And, there is no doubt that the QB injuries have made it tougher for the team to win, in my view.

Valid points. I agree
 
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.

Again, valid points that I can not disagree with
 
First I have heard of people questioning the Keep/firing of Stitt. When did that start?

Anyways, it wont be an issue. I'm still with this team through the ENTIRE season. Will finish 8-3.
 
HookedonGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
If UM is 6-5 with loss to Cats, Haslam will be in a tough position. Will be feeling the heat from alums and supporters. A one year extension would look a bit funny and perhaps not be well-received by the coach. Assume 7-4 is an easier decision. If Haslam wants to keep Stitt, I suppose he has the QB injuries to point to. And, there is no doubt that the QB injuries have made it tougher for the team to win, in my view.

That is something that has been on my mind a great deal and I wanted to start a discussion on. We have seen the Griz have to play a 3rd string QB every single year that Stitt has been here. So for 3 years straight, Stitt has had to start a 3rd string QB (if Jensen is out Saturday).

My assumption is you'd be hard-pressed to find anything like that across the FCS and maybe FBS. So my bigger question is, is it an absolute fluke? is it just bad luck? or is there something with his offensive scheme that leads to these quarterbacks getting hurt? It just seems crazy to me.

The latter IMO, and the topic has been discussed in another thread.
 
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.
The keep-Stitt-but-fire-DC/ST bullshit is DAF to me, unless there is a known commodity out there that will mesh with this staff and strategy. Forcing a DC on Stitt has already proven to be a disaster. What makes you think it would work this time? Pure speculation. I agree they gotta go, but I could speculate that subbing in some new guys may even be worse. It makes no sense to me, particularly coming from the “stability” crowd. It’s almost the same as starting over, so why half-ass it? I can’t think of a single instance (based on performance, not discipline) in all of CFB where the admin mettled in staffing and it worked. Usually when an employer thinks they know what’s best and gives an employee an ultimatum, it backfires

Serious question for.......you own a business, and one of your employees is not performing his/her job up to standards. Do you keep that employee, or replace that employee? And, if you do replace that person, would you hire their replacement without a very firm feeling that the new hire would be an improvement? Who hires an individual without a very strong feeling that you have made a great hire? Do you think Haslam had fears when he hired Stitt that he had made the wrong hire? I sure hope the answer is no!
 
BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.
 
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.
The keep-Stitt-but-fire-DC/ST bullshit is DAF to me, unless there is a known commodity out there that will mesh with this staff and strategy. Forcing a DC on Stitt has already proven to be a disaster. What makes you think it would work this time? Pure speculation. I agree they gotta go, but I could speculate that subbing in some new guys may even be worse. It makes no sense to me, particularly coming from the “stability” crowd. It’s almost the same as starting over, so why half-ass it? I can’t think of a single instance (based on performance, not discipline) in all of CFB where the admin mettled in staffing and it worked. Usually when an employer thinks they know what’s best and gives an employee an ultimatum, it backfires

Interesting. Pure speculation, but the "new guy" who replaces Stitt may even be worse as well.

Coaches hire and fire position coaches and coordinators all the time. They don't perform, get hired away, promoted to HC somewhere else, etc., etc. Nobody is saying to "force" a DC on Stitt....but acknowledging that Semore hasn't cut the mustard and getting rid of him would be a huge step for Stitt, IMHO.
 
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.
The keep-Stitt-but-fire-DC/ST bullshit is DAF to me, unless there is a known commodity out there that will mesh with this staff and strategy. Forcing a DC on Stitt has already proven to be a disaster. What makes you think it would work this time? Pure speculation. I agree they gotta go, but I could speculate that subbing in some new guys may even be worse. It makes no sense to me, particularly coming from the “stability” crowd. It’s almost the same as starting over, so why half-ass it? I can’t think of a single instance (based on performance, not discipline) in all of CFB where the admin mettled in staffing and it worked. Usually when an employer thinks they know what’s best and gives an employee an ultimatum, it backfires

Interesting. Pure speculation, but the "new guy" who replaces Stitt may even be worse as well.

Coaches hire and fire position coaches and coordinators all the time. They don't perform, get hired away, promoted to HC somewhere else, etc., etc. Nobody is saying to "force" a DC on Stitt....but acknowledging that Semore hasn't cut the mustard and getting rid of him would be a huge step for Stitt, IMHO.
You just contradicted yourself. In your first post above, you essentially said the AD should tell Stitt to get a new DC or be fired. If that’s not “forc[ing] a DC on Stitt” I don’t know what is
 
Every other head coach after Coach Read, until Stitt, has had a connection and understanding of Montana and specifically Montana football. I still don’t think Stitt had a clue what he was getting himself into and the expectations from the majority of the fans here. There are many of us that saw first hand the Metamorphosis of the program from bad to become a National power. Now we know and feel it slipping away. Stitt has proven thus far to be a nice guy and a mediocre coach. At this point he certainly doesn’t give me a lot of confidence that he will get us back to a national power and consistent Top 5 Team. I truely wish he would prove me wrong.
 
HookedonGriz said:
BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us

AKA your best bud Growler...100 percent

Haha, seems like it. Timing fits as does the narrative.
 
whitefishbear said:
BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.

Sweet, I have an agenda! Outside of being overly positive about everything what's that?
 
BWahlberg said:
whitefishbear said:
BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.

Sweet, I have an agenda! Outside of being overly positive about everything what's that?

I bet it's to get a few more clients interested in homes in the Missoula area...yeah, that's it!
 
AZDoc said:
BWahlberg said:
whitefishbear said:
BWahlberg said:
Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.

Sweet, I have an agenda! Outside of being overly positive about everything what's that?

I bet it's to get a few more clients interested in homes in the Missoula area...yeah, that's it!

Got to be.

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BWahlberg said:
whitefishbear said:
BWahlberg said:
signedbewildered said:
Someone should really start a thread about the end of season record and who should be fired and retained. You're welcome.


Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.

Sweet, I have an agenda! Outside of being overly positive about everything what's that?



I think it is to sugar-coat everything for us lemmings. Oh, and also to call out posters who seem to have an obsession with dicks.
 
Fushiznitz said:
BWahlberg said:
whitefishbear said:
BWahlberg said:
Don’t worry I’m sure whitefishbear has 4 or 5 more in the hopper for us


You don't have to participate in this thread if you choose. Since it asks for posters to stand up and be counted, it is no surprise that an individual with an agenda would find a way to defer.

Sweet, I have an agenda! Outside of being overly positive about everything what's that?



I think it is to sugar-coat everything for us lemmings. Oh, and also to call out posters who seem to have an obsession with dicks.

Fair, very fair.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.

+1
 
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
garizzalies said:
AZGrizFan said:
Honestly, I've reached a point where it's not even about the record any more. Even if we go 8-3, I don't think it's gonna be a pretty 8-3. I think if I'm Haslam, I'm telling Stitt that under no circumstances are Semore & the ST coach being retained...and if he insists he's not firing them, then I let the entire lot of 'em go....regardless of record.
The keep-Stitt-but-fire-DC/ST bullshit is DAF to me, unless there is a known commodity out there that will mesh with this staff and strategy. Forcing a DC on Stitt has already proven to be a disaster. What makes you think it would work this time? Pure speculation. I agree they gotta go, but I could speculate that subbing in some new guys may even be worse. It makes no sense to me, particularly coming from the “stability” crowd. It’s almost the same as starting over, so why half-ass it? I can’t think of a single instance (based on performance, not discipline) in all of CFB where the admin mettled in staffing and it worked. Usually when an employer thinks they know what’s best and gives an employee an ultimatum, it backfires

Interesting. Pure speculation, but the "new guy" who replaces Stitt may even be worse as well.

Coaches hire and fire position coaches and coordinators all the time. They don't perform, get hired away, promoted to HC somewhere else, etc., etc. Nobody is saying to "force" a DC on Stitt....but acknowledging that Semore hasn't cut the mustard and getting rid of him would be a huge step for Stitt, IMHO.
You just contradicted yourself. In your first post above, you essentially said the AD should tell Stitt to get a new DC or be fired. If that’s not “forc[ing] a DC on Stitt” I don’t know what is

I interpreted your statement to mean that Haslam was forcing a PARTICULAR DC onto Stitt...
 
Gametime said:
Every other head coach after Coach Read, until Stitt, has had a connection and understanding of Montana and specifically Montana football. I still don’t think Stitt had a clue what he was getting himself into and the expectations from the majority of the fans here. There are many of us that saw first hand the Metamorphosis of the program from bad to become a National power. Now we know and feel it slipping away. Stitt has proven thus far to be a nice guy and a mediocre coach. At this point he certainly doesn’t give me a lot of confidence that he will get us back to a national power and consistent Top 5 Team. I truely wish he would prove me wrong.

It didn't "slip away". It was ripped away in 2012. Four HC's in six years will do that to a program. Loss of schollies will do that to a program.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Gametime said:
Every other head coach after Coach Read, until Stitt, has had a connection and understanding of Montana and specifically Montana football. I still don’t think Stitt had a clue what he was getting himself into and the expectations from the majority of the fans here. There are many of us that saw first hand the Metamorphosis of the program from bad to become a National power. Now we know and feel it slipping away. Stitt has proven thus far to be a nice guy and a mediocre coach. At this point he certainly doesn’t give me a lot of confidence that he will get us back to a national power and consistent Top 5 Team. I truely wish he would prove me wrong.

It didn't "slip away". It was ripped away in 2012. Four HC's in six years will do that to a program. Loss of schollies will do that to a program.

To gametime's post the thing that is casually avoided is the staff Stitt has built.

Mike Ferriter
Schann Schillenger
Justin Green
Chad Germer
Andrew Selle

When people say that Stitt doesn't understand this program's tradition and expectations that seems pretty damn silly considering the group he's surrounded himself with.
 
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