Northern Iowa...

[BDizzle]

UNI, Liberty and James Madison and every other FCS school are not going anywhere.

Conference realignment at the FBS is pretty much done with the new ACC media contracts. The ACC owns all the tv rights for all the schools for 15 years. Which means that if a schools leaves, the ACC can make it so that the schools' teams are not on tv.

And a cap has been put on how much money the "other" FBS conferences get. So why would these conferences add schools to shirnk their piece of the pie.

Read in the paper this morning that the non-automatic bid conferences (Sun Belt, MAC, Mountain West etc.) will be receiving 5 times the money under the new College Football Playoff system than they did under the BCS

What the hell does this have to do with Billings, MT being a cesspool or not?!

Ha jk. Its nice to get back on subject.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

Boise, while not a "Tech Superpower" still HQs Micron and HP, both of which give plenty of money to Boise State and its athletic programs. Boise's also much more business friendly and is doing a good job of attracting fleeing California companies (including Tech) into the area. Boise State has had some great coaches that have built that program, but it wouldn't be near where it's at without the corporate $upport it has recieved. Much like Montana wouldn't be the program it is without Dennis's money or all the other corporate sponsors that spend money for those big "annoying" ads in the stadium. Unfortunatly, the list of available corporate donors in Missoula is much shorter than a lot of cities. Makes it difficult to invest in large expenditures that are needed to move up when you have to rely on public funds from a state with a small economy.

HP is based in Palo Alto.

You are right, but HP does have a large campus in Boise that supplies thousands of good paying jobs. Tech is Idaho's largest industry and is very important to the funding of the State's Universities and athletic departments. BSU football wouldn't have the success it has had without corporate donations. Boise is no Silicon Valley or Seattle, but it does have a strong and growing tech presense that is crucial to it's economy.

 

[CentralMontanan]

Once I saw Shadow Lawn got torn down, the town became dead to me.

 

[GrizMusician]

I have no room to rip on Missoula or Billings... I live in Butte. However... Bozeman on the other hand... FTC!

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[CentralMontanan]

Uptown Butte is one of the coolest places around.

Bozeman...eh. It's cold and has it's fair share of douchery. I used to like the Rockin' R...haven't been back in town really since it blew up.

 

[GrizMusician]

Uptown Butte is one of the coolest places around.

Bozeman...eh. It's cold and has it's fair share of douchery. I used to like the Rockin' R...haven't been back in town really since it blew up.

Uptown Butte is cool, but after living here a while it kind of loses its magic. The new distillery & brewery are nice additions though.

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[kemajic]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then the rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

 

[grizchamp]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

None of this changes the fact that Billings is a s&/;hole. I would rather live in Poplar than Billings.

 

[kemajic]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

None of this changes the fact that Billings is a s&/;hole. I would rather live in Poplar than Billings.

That is nothing more than your opinion. Enjoy Poplar.

 

[rimrockgriz]

If you're looking at size, the statistics can be misleading. The Missoula "metropolitan area" is technically about 110,000, while the Billings metropolitan area is around 160,000. But the Missoula metropolitan area only includes Missoula County, while the Billings metropolitan area includes Yellowstone and Carbon counties. If you include the counties of Ravalli and Lake that Missoula serves, which are similar in distance from Missoula as the those areas covered by the Billings metropolitan area, Missoula is about 200,000 people within about 50 miles.

YOU TALK OUT YOR A$$ LIKE MANY POSTERS HERE...I MOVED TO BILLINGS in the 90's gave up my v-shaped back for a v-shaped wallet. I've never been happier. I lived in 4 w. mt. cities the first 35 yrs of my life. You can dig all you want while I laugh all the way to the banks. Missoula siphons off the rest of the state...PERIOD. No problems...I still love zula and enjoy the weekends more and more each year in the fall. I love watching them trip all over themselves every time i open my wallet :lol: It's impossible to keep up with the building here if you have a real job. Quite stunning :thumb:

 

[rimrockgriz]

Billings is a cesspool, it can have all the jobs it wants. The fact is that the crime rate there has skyrocketed in the past couple years, making it one of the least safe places in Montana to live. Screw Billings, lived there once, never again.

You talk out your a$$ also.. :roll: I just looked up the total property crimes and the crimes per 100,000 and your a scat douche. The truth of the matter is many posters here talk out their a$$...because you suffer no ramifications for being a dumb f... You left Billings because you looked in the mirror and quit, or saw yourself as a failure. No one said it was easy here, but if you have drive, a skill set and a whole lot of faith you can set yourself for life. Billings is becoming a stronger economic power by the f...ing day. Yes, by the day. We will be calling the shots more and more as time travels. Any sniveling losers outside complaining will be ignored, and trampled. You are like your sh!t football team, still trying to convince the outsiders your viable and a real threat. When you hit solid nat'l competition you FOLD. uke:

 

[Jerry Punch]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then the rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

People in Billings don't feel the need to trash Missoula. They are totally different cities with totally different people. Having lived in both, I can assure you that the trashing is a one-way street. Missoulians rest their laurels on their "educated" populace of human beings working at coffee shops and restaurants with graduate degrees in liberal studies. They rest their superiority on the natural surroundings of the area. They're right. Missoula is a beautiful place about 5 months a year when it isn't dark, cloudy, and astonishingly smoggy with regular air quality warnings.

Kem is absolutely right on this one. When a public forum was held on the topic of fracking in Eastern Montana, it was decided that the conference be held in Sidney. Many, many a Missoulian objected on the grounds that it was too far away from Missoula. Here's the news that Kem was referring to - Missoula isn't the center of Montana. In fact, it is on the far left in more ways than one. Most of Montana is nothing like Missoula. Here's an idea - next time some industry wants to set up shop in Missoula, those of us East of the divide will say nothing about it because it really isn't our business. We'll just let Missoulians do what they do best - torpedo a good business option and sink a solid economic sector with good paying jobs.

When you protest fracking that takes place a solid 8 hours from where you live but manage to whine about it because it somehow affects your life in the Fantasy HQ of Montana, then you know you need a reality check.

Good post, Kem. I'm with you 100% on this one.

 

[Copper Griz]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then the rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

People in Billings don't feel the need to trash Missoula. They are totally different cities with totally different people. Having lived in both, I can assure you that the trashing is a one-way street. Missoulians rest their laurels on their "educated" populace of human beings working at coffee shops and restaurants with graduate degrees in liberal studies. They rest their superiority on the natural surroundings of the area. They're right. Missoula is a beautiful place about 5 months a year when it isn't dark, cloudy, and astonishingly smoggy with regular air quality warnings.

Kem is absolutely right on this one. When a public forum was held on the topic of fracking in Eastern Montana, it was decided that the conference be held in Sidney. Many, many a Missoulian objected on the grounds that it was too far away from Missoula. Here's the news that Kem was referring to - Missoula isn't the center of Montana. In fact, it is on the far left in more ways than one. Most of Montana is nothing like Missoula. Here's an idea - next time some industry wants to set up shop in Missoula, those of us East of the divide will say nothing about it because it really isn't our business. We'll just let Missoulians do what they do best - torpedo a good business option and sink a solid economic sector with good paying jobs.

When you protest fracking that takes place a solid 8 hours from where you live but manage to whine about it because it somehow affects your life in the Fantasy HQ of Montana, then you know you need a reality check.

Good post, Kem. I'm with you 100% on this one.

Great post Jerry - you just forgot the part about who pays for the environmental cleanup after the fracking is complete and a mess is left behind. Drive over to Butte and take a good look at the pit. Wonder who is ultimately going to pay for that mess when all is said and done? Hmmm
- Just Butte folks who benefited from the jobs and great economy 50 years ago? Your argument is flawed - seriously flawed. Economic growth is a great thing and most Missoulian's would likely not oppose responsible growth. Emphasis on responsible.

 

[bozely]

Billings is a cesspool, it can have all the jobs it wants. The fact is that the crime rate there has skyrocketed in the past couple years, making it one of the least safe places in Montana to live. Screw Billings, lived there once, never again.

You talk out your a$$ also.. :roll: I just looked up the total property crimes and the crimes per 100,000 and your a scat douche. The truth of the matter is many posters here talk out their a$$...because you suffer no ramifications for being a dumb f... You left Billings because you looked in the mirror and quit, or saw yourself as a failure. No one said it was easy here, but if you have drive, a skill set and a whole lot of faith you can set yourself for life. Billings is becoming a stronger economic power by the f...ing day. Yes, by the day. We will be calling the shots more and more as time travels. Any sniveling losers outside complaining will be ignored, and trampled. You are like your sh!t football team, still trying to convince the outsiders your viable and a real threat. When you hit solid nat'l competition you FOLD. uke:

No, in fact I'm not jealous of your dumb ass in any way, working as a biotech I contribute far more to society than you ever will. And I make a large chunk of money doing it! :thumb: I think I might know who you are the way you take the butthurt to another level like nobody else can. I'm glad you can find a job in that area, nobody else would have you due to your idiotic behavior. My statement still stands, Billings is an absolute cesspool, and people like you prove that very effectively.

 

[cclarkblues]

Billings is a cesspool, it can have all the jobs it wants. The fact is that the crime rate there has skyrocketed in the past couple years, making it one of the least safe places in Montana to live. Screw Billings, lived there once, never again.

You talk out your a$$ also.. :roll: I just looked up the total property crimes and the crimes per 100,000 and your a scat douche. The truth of the matter is many posters here talk out their a$$...because you suffer no ramifications for being a dumb f... You left Billings because you looked in the mirror and quit, or saw yourself as a failure. No one said it was easy here, but if you have drive, a skill set and a whole lot of faith you can set yourself for life. Billings is becoming a stronger economic power by the f...ing day. Yes, by the day. We will be calling the shots more and more as time travels. Any sniveling losers outside complaining will be ignored, and trampled. You are like your sh!t football team, still trying to convince the outsiders your viable and a real threat. When you hit solid nat'l competition you FOLD. uke:

No, in fact I'm not jealous of your dumb ass in any way, working as a biotech I contribute far more to society than you ever will. And I make a large chunk of money doing it! :thumb: I think I might know who you are the way you take the butthurt to another level like nobody else can. I'm glad you can find a job in that area, nobody else would have you due to your idiotic behavior. My statement still stands, Billings is an absolute cesspool, and people like you prove that very effectively.

People make the town. Any town. You have just proved why Bozeman sucks.

 

[Spanky]

Bozeman is ugly, state college campus is ugly, girls at state are ugly....

 

[Copper Griz]

Bozeman is ugly, state college campus is ugly, girls at state are ugly....

Yes Spanky, but if bigger is better - then their girls are way better!!

 

[krammer]

Interesting. Why do people who live in Billings feel the need to trash Missoula?

I'm not a Billings resident, but live close enough to comment. I would not call it a need, but there are reasons it happens. Politics is one. Billings politics is balanced; Missoula politics is left of left. Billings people are not surprised that the liberal policies of W. MT have damaged jobs and the economy and can connect the accountability. Unlike Missoula, Billings's diverse economy has enabled the city to navigate the recession without a lot of whining.

Another is the simple response to Missoulians disrespecting the rest of the state, in effect expressing that the state revolves around Missoula, which is hardly the case. There is Missoula and a bit of W. MT and then the rest of the wasteland. I love UM, but it's impact on what drives the state's the economy is overrated. Billings is the economic hub of the state and is quite self-sufficient. UM, and as a result much of Missoula, are very dependent upon residents of other MT cities like Billings. Missoulians could be far more respectful and keep their place in the state in better perspective.

People in Billings don't feel the need to trash Missoula. They are totally different cities with totally different people. Having lived in both, I can assure you that the trashing is a one-way street. Missoulians rest their laurels on their "educated" populace of human beings working at coffee shops and restaurants with graduate degrees in liberal studies. They rest their superiority on the natural surroundings of the area. They're right. Missoula is a beautiful place about 5 months a year when it isn't dark, cloudy, and astonishingly smoggy with regular air quality warnings.

Kem is absolutely right on this one. When a public forum was held on the topic of fracking in Eastern Montana, it was decided that the conference be held in Sidney. Many, many a Missoulian objected on the grounds that it was too far away from Missoula. Here's the news that Kem was referring to - Missoula isn't the center of Montana. In fact, it is on the far left in more ways than one. Most of Montana is nothing like Missoula. Here's an idea - next time some industry wants to set up shop in Missoula, those of us East of the divide will say nothing about it because it really isn't our business. We'll just let Missoulians do what they do best - torpedo a good business option and sink a solid economic sector with good paying jobs.

When you protest fracking that takes place a solid 8 hours from where you live but manage to whine about it because it somehow affects your life in the Fantasy HQ of Montana, then you know you need a reality check.

Good post, Kem. I'm with you 100% on this one.

jerry is right on this one...there is more business conducted in one day in billings, than a month in Missoula, (banking, airport, baaken, ranching) plus its not like we don't have access to the mountains...northeast entrance to Yellowstone 50 miles away, can be sking in about one hour and still have the amenities to a larger metro area with much more going on than Missoula....I love Missoula too, I just don" t see the need to hate billings....

 

[CentralMontanan]

Bozeman is ugly, state college campus is ugly, girls at state are ugly....

Yes Spanky, but if bigger is better - then their girls are way better!!

They don't call it "Moo U" for nothin'.

 

[CentralMontanan]

The Beartooths are just as wild and crazy as any other mountains in Western Montana. Looks like the Kashmir up in them. And the Pryors are pretty cool too. Both are just outside of Billings basically.

Like I've said...Billings is somewhat a bore, but there's worse places. You all are right about Missoula not having any jobs. It's just basically a service center for Western MT at this point.