No one knows where people are getting infected

[PlayerRep]

Hey, show us your evidence. Here's the recent NY tracing data. 2.02% higher ed student, 1.43% restaurants/bars, retail .61%, real estate .10%. Where's the big box store stuff, other than part of the retail. It's households. And yes, social gatherings which includes young and old.

In my view, people like you are a big part of the problem. You just make up stuff and pull things out of thin air.

"The state looked at contract tracing data for 46,000 cases of the coronavirus. Here are the top 30 exposure sources.
Chart
Share of Exposure Source
Household/Social Gatherings 73.84%
Healthcare Delivery 7.81%
Higher Education Student 2.02%
Education Employee 1.50%
Restaurants & Bars 1.43%
Travel/Vacation 1.06%
Sports 1.04%
Public Sector (Police/Fire/EMS/Military) 1%
Transit Public/Private 0.96%
Manufacturing 0.84%
Religious Activites 0.69%
Construction 0.66%
Retail 0.61%
Professional Services 0.55%
Elementary School Student 0.49%
Chart
Share of Exposure Source
Auto Dealers & Car Rentals 0.16%
Hair & Personal Care 0.14%
Wholesale Trade 0.14%
Building & Dwelling Services 0.13%
Real Estate 0.10%
Arts & Entertainment 0.08%
Gyms 0.06%
Agri, Hunting, Forestry 0.06%
Childcare 0.05%
Power/Utilities 0.05%
Accomodations 0.02%
Media Production 0.02%
High School Student 0.46%
Prisions/Correctional 0.43%
Middle School Student 0.19%"

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/ny-state-of-politics/2020/12/11/what-new-york-s-contact-tracing-data-show

Whoa whoa whoa!

Are you trying to say that this virus is spreading MORE in household gatherings and schools and colleges than bars and restaurants?! :shock:

I simply am shocked. SHOCKED! This goes against everything I believe. I am most certainly a huge part of the problem then! I just can’t fathom this information to be true.

I am not saying anything. Just providing NY's stats again.

 

[ilovethecats]

Whoa whoa whoa!

Are you trying to say that this virus is spreading MORE in household gatherings and schools and colleges than bars and restaurants?! :shock:

I simply am shocked. SHOCKED! This goes against everything I believe. I am most certainly a huge part of the problem then! I just can’t fathom this information to be true.

I am not saying anything. Just providing NY's stats again.

:lol:
Geeze PR. My post was DRIPPING with sarcasm. Sometimes I forget I’m not just talking to CDA over here....

 

[Jesse]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer fucked up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the Fuck dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

 

[PlayerRep]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer f###[#] up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the [#]f### dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

Here's an extra 20%.

"The confusion came over labeling: The vaccine comes in vials labeled as containing enough for five doses. But pharmacists discovered that, after thawing and mixing the contents with a dilutent, each vial contained enough vaccine for six doses. "

 

[Spanky2]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer f###[#] up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the [#]f### dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

Jesse: without Trump, there wouldn’t be a vaccine to worry about.

 

[PlayerRep]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer f###[#] up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the [#]f### dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

[From the WaPost.]

1. "One official said the initial numbers of available doses that were provided to states were projections based on information from the manufacturers, not fixed allocations. Some state officials may have misunderstood that, the official said.

2. "The two officials also said that changes the federal government made to the delivery schedule, at the request of governors, may be contributing to a mistaken impression that fewer doses are coming. The key change involves spacing out delivery of states’ weekly allocations over several days to make distribution more manageable.

“They will get their weekly allocation, it just won’t come to them on one day,” one official said."

3. "The senior administration officials said Pfizer’s statement about doses awaiting shipping instructions, while technically accurate, conveniently omits the explanation: It was planned that way.

The federal officials said Pfizer committed to provide 6.4 million doses of its vaccine in the first week after approval. But the federal Operation Warp Speed had already planned to distribute only 2.9 million of those doses right away. Another 2.9 million were to be held at Pfizer’s warehouse to guarantee that individuals vaccinated the first week would be able to get their second shot later to make protection fully effective. Finally, the government is holding an additional 500,000 doses as a reserve against unforeseen problems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/some-states-say-pfizer-vaccine-allotments-cut-for-next-week/2020/12/17/71e180e8-40c5-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960_story.html

 

[tourist]

Aspirate is pulling back on the plunger before injecting. Geting a bloody flash shows a vein has been injected, Doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

Yo Belushi...Vaccines are injected into the muscle, not a vein.

I can't tell if you are being serious. I hope it is a humorous attempt.
Q: Where does the muscle get the blood supply, and how does the blood supply return to the general circulation?
A: From arteries, returned by veins.
The literature I've read says there is a small chance of injecting a vein or artery in the deltoid. By aspirating, there is NO CHANCE of that happening.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333604/

Conclusion
There is a shortage of consistent recommendations regarding aspiration before injection in published literature, regulatory guidelines, and medical and nursing school curricula. There is also no central and easily accessible place where one can access and review information and guidelines regarding the procedure. It is therefore important to bring all the evidence, published and otherwise, to the forefront for clinicians, researchers, regulatory bodies and device manufacturers so that they can make an informed decision. Based on our findings, the need for aspiration prior to administering an injection is dependent upon multiple factors. Systemic adverse effects profile and mode of delivery (IV vs IM and SC) of drugs plays a significant role in the decision to aspirate or not to aspirate. There is ample evidence that suggests that aspiration may not be required for IM and SC injections, while for IV injections the systemic side effects of the drug should be considered when aspirating before any injection.

 

[Jesse]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer f###[#] up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the [#]f### dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

Jesse: without Trump, there wouldn’t be a vaccine to worry about.

Actually, the Pfizer vaccine was made in Germany developed by two Turkish immigrants, so yeah let’s name the vaccine after Trump because without him there wouldn’t have been a vaccine. Lol

 

[PlayerRep]

Jesse: without Trump, there wouldn’t be a vaccine to worry about.

Actually, the Pfizer vaccine was made in Germany developed by two Turkish immigrants, so yeah let’s name the vaccine after Trump because without him there wouldn’t have been a vaccine. Lol

The US had a large part in this vaccine, and it was part of Warp Speed. The US vaccine doses are coming from Grand Rapids MI. The vaccine was developed by a German company by a husband-wife team. Drugs are often developed initially by smaller companies who partner with big drug companies with the financial and other resources to do the trials for regulatory approval, get the regulatory approval, do the manufacturing, and do the distribution,

The US pre-ordered 100 million does last summer, for $1.95 billion, and entered into an agreement to order 400 million.more.

"PFIZER AND BIONTECH ANNOUNCE AN AGREEMENT WITH U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR UP TO 600 MILLION DOSES OF MRNA-BASED VACCINE CANDIDATE AGAINST SARS-COV-2
Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 07:10am
U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion and can acquire up to 500 million additional doses

Americans to receive the vaccine for free consistent with U.S. government’s commitment for free access for COVID-19 vaccines

Pfizer and BioNTech remain on track to begin an anticipated Phase 2b/3 safety and efficacy trial later this month, seek regulatory review as early as October 2020, and manufacture globally up to 100 million doses by the end of 2020 and potentially more than 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021"

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-agreement-us-government-600

Pfizer is headquartered in NYC:

"New York City
Headquarters are in New York City. Pfizer, Inc. Pfizer was founded in Brooklyn, New York, in 1849 as Charles Pfizer & Company by the German chemist and entrepreneur Charles Pfizer and his cousin Charles Erhart, a confectioner."

"Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program goal to begin delivering 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 in 2021.

“Expanding Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” said HHS Secretary Alex Azar."

 

[argh!]

Read the administration initially reported that they might have to invoke the defense production act to help out Pfizer because it was running low on raw materials to manufacture its vaccine, implying that Pfizer f###[#] up by not having enough in the supply pipeline. Then Pfizer said no way we are fine, any shortage is because the administration chose not to lock into a deal for millions of more doses back in June. So Pfizer then turned to the rest of the world and took orders from them that we turned down. Now there is a forecast for a shortage of the Pfizer vaccine for the US. Could the rest of the world really have made a better deal then Trump back in June?

Ps. Pfizer also reported that they have surplus stocks in warehouses but Pfizer has said that there is no plan by the administration on how to immediately distribute the surplus. We are setting daily death records, one 9/11 everyday now. Its like he doesn’t care anymore. What the [#]f### dude show some heart and play to the final gun.

Jesse: without Trump, there wouldn’t be a vaccine to worry about.

oh gawd, trump didn't do anything to help the vaccine along, other than making it's need much greater by politicizing masks, et al. the vaccine was largely developed overseas, as was the moderna version. the trump administration then proceeded to not order enough, etc, etc... you trump cultists are a bit much, and just as ludicrous as the far left.

 

[argh!]

the problem, greenie, is that you are trying to give evidence that was after your initial accusation. anyone could make up lots of bullshit explanations for what happened.

Huh? What are you saying?

I provided this "evidence" last Friday for the first time. Right after NY and Coumo released it.

sorry, too much beer after unpleasant news must have influenced that post. again, i apologize, but... it happens

 

[PlayerRep]

Jesse: without Trump, there wouldn’t be a vaccine to worry about.

oh gawd, trump didn't do anything to help the vaccine along, other than making it's need much greater by politicizing masks, et al. the vaccine was largely developed overseas, as was the moderna version. the trump administration then proceeded to not order enough, etc, etc... you trump cultists are a bit much, and just as ludicrous as the far left.

You are wrong on most of this. See my above post.

I read that the US has 5 vaccines lined up.

Moderna. "The U.S. and India have both agreed to procure 500 million doses"

100 million so far from Pfizer. "Moderna expects to add 20 million doses of its vaccine to Pfizer’s expected U.S. supply of 25 million in December."

This was Dec. 11

"Trump Administration purchases additional 100 million doses of COVID-19 investigational vaccine from Moderna"

"Although a Pfizer board member says the government declined to buy more doses beyond the initial 100 million agreed upon in July, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told PBS Newshour that this is inaccurate. The company never made a formal offer saying how many doses it would deliver and when — two things that are needed to sign an additional deal.

"They refused to commit to any other production or delivery by a time certain," he said, explaining that the initial doses will be delivered by March, and there is an option for the government to buy another 500 million after that. "I'm certainly not going to sign a deal with Pfizer, giving them $10 billion to buy vaccine that they could deliver to us five, 10 years hence. That doesn't make any sense.""

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/10/944857395/us-government-may-find-it-hard-to-get-more-doses-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine

Note that in July no one knew which vaccines were going to get done and approved first, or when.

 

[ABQCat]

How is this still a thread?

Well, PR starts a thread saying nobody knows where people are getting infected. On page 32 he makes a post indicating precisely where people are getting infected. There are many, many other english words as well.

 

[Jesse]

Actually, the Pfizer vaccine was made in Germany developed by two Turkish immigrants, so yeah let’s name the vaccine after Trump because without him there wouldn’t have been a vaccine. Lol

The US had a large part in this vaccine, and it was part of Warp Speed. The US vaccine doses are coming from Grand Rapids MI. The vaccine was developed by a German company by a husband-wife team. Drugs are often developed initially by smaller companies who partner with big drug companies with the financial and other resources to do the trials for regulatory approval, get the regulatory approval, do the manufacturing, and do the distribution,

The US pre-ordered 100 million does last summer, for $1.95 billion, and entered into an agreement to order 400 million.more.

"PFIZER AND BIONTECH ANNOUNCE AN AGREEMENT WITH U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR UP TO 600 MILLION DOSES OF MRNA-BASED VACCINE CANDIDATE AGAINST SARS-COV-2
Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 07:10am
U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion and can acquire up to 500 million additional doses

Americans to receive the vaccine for free consistent with U.S. government’s commitment for free access for COVID-19 vaccines

Pfizer and BioNTech remain on track to begin an anticipated Phase 2b/3 safety and efficacy trial later this month, seek regulatory review as early as October 2020, and manufacture globally up to 100 million doses by the end of 2020 and potentially more than 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021"

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-agreement-us-government-600

Pfizer is headquartered in NYC:

"New York City
Headquarters are in New York City. Pfizer, Inc. Pfizer was founded in Brooklyn, New York, in 1849 as Charles Pfizer & Company by the German chemist and entrepreneur Charles Pfizer and his cousin Charles Erhart, a confectioner."

"Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program goal to begin delivering 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 in 2021.

“Expanding Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” said HHS Secretary Alex Azar."

I think you fail to see the irony of the Trump claims. The German husband and wife team are actually Turkish “immigrants” and Moderna’s vaccine was developed at Oxford. So yeah America first we should for sure name the vaccine after potus to honor him. Lol can’t make this stuff up.

 

[Jesse]

Well at least there was some good news today. Vice President pence announced that members of the Space Force will be called “guardians” rather them soldiers or airmen. So how cool is that, if your 10 years old? Pence in 2024.

 

[PlayerRep]

How is this still a thread?

Well, PR starts a thread saying nobody knows where people are getting infected. On page 32 he makes a post indicating precisely where people are getting infected. There are many, many other english words as well.

Actually, what I did was start a thread including quotes from a Wall St. Journal article entitled:

"As Covid-19 Surges, the Big Unknown Is Where People Are Getting Infected

The U.S. and Europe struggle to identify where coronavirus infections are occurring, making it hard to impose targeted restrictions"

I didn't make any comments or say anything.

And then, a month later, when a NY tracing study of 46,000 cases is released, I post that.

I assume most of this is over your head.

 

[PlayerRep]

The US had a large part in this vaccine, and it was part of Warp Speed. The US vaccine doses are coming from Grand Rapids MI. The vaccine was developed by a German company by a husband-wife team. Drugs are often developed initially by smaller companies who partner with big drug companies with the financial and other resources to do the trials for regulatory approval, get the regulatory approval, do the manufacturing, and do the distribution,

The US pre-ordered 100 million does last summer, for $1.95 billion, and entered into an agreement to order 400 million.more.

"PFIZER AND BIONTECH ANNOUNCE AN AGREEMENT WITH U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR UP TO 600 MILLION DOSES OF MRNA-BASED VACCINE CANDIDATE AGAINST SARS-COV-2
Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 07:10am
U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion and can acquire up to 500 million additional doses

Americans to receive the vaccine for free consistent with U.S. government’s commitment for free access for COVID-19 vaccines

Pfizer and BioNTech remain on track to begin an anticipated Phase 2b/3 safety and efficacy trial later this month, seek regulatory review as early as October 2020, and manufacture globally up to 100 million doses by the end of 2020 and potentially more than 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021"

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-agreement-us-government-600

Pfizer is headquartered in NYC:

"New York City
Headquarters are in New York City. Pfizer, Inc. Pfizer was founded in Brooklyn, New York, in 1849 as Charles Pfizer & Company by the German chemist and entrepreneur Charles Pfizer and his cousin Charles Erhart, a confectioner."

"Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program goal to begin delivering 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 in 2021.

“Expanding Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” said HHS Secretary Alex Azar."

I think you fail to see the irony of the Trump claims. The German husband and wife team are actually Turkish “immigrants” and Moderna’s vaccine was developed at Oxford. So yeah America first we should for sure name the vaccine after potus to honor him. Lol can’t make this stuff up.

[Moderna is headquartered in Cambridge MA.]

"The vaccine, called mRNA-1273, was developed by Moderna in collaboration with the US government. It had development help from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, and the US Biomedical Advance Research and Development Authority, known as BARDA, supported late stage clinical trials and has helped scale up manufacturing. Moderna's advanced stage clinical trial, which started July 27, is the first government-funded Phase 3 clinical trial for a Covid-19 vaccine in the United States."

"This contract is a part of the US government's Operation Warp Speed, the federal push to get vaccines and therapeutics to market as soon as safely possible."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/moderna-vaccine-government-deal/index.html

"The biotech, which has received funding from the United States' Operation Warp Speed program, also said it had about $400 million of customer deposits for a potential supply of its mRNA-1273 vaccine.

"Moderna is just one of several companies racing to come up with a vaccine. Shares of another smaller biotech, Novavax (NVAX), soared nearly 15% Wednesday after it announced promising clinical trial results of its own. Novavax shares are up more than 4,000% this year.
Novavax has also received Operation Warp Speed funding, as have giant drug companies Johnson & Johnson (JNJ), AstraZeneca (AZN), GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and a joint trial of Big Pharma giant Pfizer (PFE) and Germany's BioNTech (BNTX)."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/05/investing/moderna-earnings-vaccine/index.html

 

[MontanaJack2006]

I was at Town Pump earlier today buying my Extenze and the counter guy told me the government was using the vaccines to inject us with GPS units.

Town Pump has excellent fried meats.

 

[sdk.catfish]

t PlayerRep

Actually, what I did was start a thread including quotes from a Wall St. Journal article entitled:

"As Covid-19 Surges, the Big Unknown Is Where People Are Getting Infected

The U.S. and Europe struggle to identify where coronavirus infections are occurring, making it hard to impose targeted restrictions"

I didn't make any comments or say anything.

The bigger question is why did you start this thread, now up to 33 pages, in the first place. It isn't remotely about Griz football or the FCS. Clearly you don't give a shit what is posted on this forum as long as your narcisistic ass can get some airtime. Plenty of other internet forums to post your opinions. You are a true piece of self-centered work.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I was at Town Pump earlier today buying my Extenze and the counter guy told me the government was using the vaccines to inject us with GPS units.

Town Pump has excellent fried meats.

Posting just to add that I laughed hard at this post, and that the BBQ Snacks under the heat lamp at TP have some of the best pig anus meat I’ve ever tasted. And, I’ve tasted a LOT.