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"Pfizer COVID vaccine ingredients are pretty standard, experts say"

"Experts say the ingredients in the COVID-19 vaccine developed by Pfizer and German partner BioNTech, which was authorized Friday by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, looks pretty standard for a vaccine.

Active Ingredient

30 mcg of a nucleosidemodified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.

Fats

lipids (0.43 mg (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 0.05 mg 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 0.09 mg 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and 0.2 mg cholesterol)

Salts

0.01 mg potassium chloride

0.01 mg monobasic potassium phosphate

0.36 mg sodium chloride

0.07 mg dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate

Sugar

6 mg sucrose

The only active ingredient in the vaccine is the messenger RNA encoding the viral spike of SARS-CoV-2. This describes the modified mRNA that contains the code for cells to make the spike protein specific to the virus that will help create antibodies to attack it.

The next key ingredient on the list is the lipid molecule, a small ball of fat, that contains four components. Some of the components, like cholesterol, are natural to the body. Other components, like the polyethylene glycol (PEG), are not.

PEG is used in a range of pharmaceutical, cosmetic and food products, according to FullFact.org, a registered charity and nonprofit company from England that fact-checks and debunks false or misleading claims.

There have been rare cases of allergic reactions to products with high concentrations of PEG, such as some commonly used laxatives, but the Pfizer vaccine contains a tiny amount of the substance – only enough to maintain the integrity of the lipid molecule.
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https://news.yahoo.com/nothing-too-surprising-pfizer-covid-200154482.html
 
grizindabox said:
SoldierGriz said:
Yep. And, if you are a person with a co-morbidity you should stay away from the person going to the gym. It's quite simple really.

Protecting vulnerable from dying should be the policy...NOT protecting people from getting sick.

It is actually a step in controlling spread to help support the healthcare system, but whatever.

And the VAST majority of people who go to gyms are not the ones in hospitals...

They recover at home.

Those in the hospitals should have stayed home without visitors...they were vulnerable and they knew it.
 
SoldierGriz said:
grizindabox said:
It is actually a step in controlling spread to help support the healthcare system, but whatever.

And the VAST majority of people who go to gyms are not the ones in hospitals...

They recover at home.

Those in the hospitals should have stayed home without visitors...they were vulnerable and they knew it.

Reading comprehension is key.
 
PlayerRep said:
Expects normality in 12-18 months. Large gatherings may be restricted longer. One problem will be protecting/vaccinating other countries, so there isn't reintroduction when people start traveling and getting out and about.

How do you interpret this PR? We have the vaccine. They expect 100 million plus to be vaccinated in the next 3-4 months. We KNOW the survival rate is 98+% already. Why on earth would it still be more than 12-18 months for large gatherings?

As annoyed as I’ve been by this entire ordeal, for the life of me I can’t understand why we shouldn’t be allowed to go about business as usual in the next 5-6 months.

But I’m not an expert, as I’ve been told a bunch in the last year. ;)
 
ilovethecats said:
PlayerRep said:
Expects normality in 12-18 months. Large gatherings may be restricted longer. One problem will be protecting/vaccinating other countries, so there isn't reintroduction when people start traveling and getting out and about.

How do you interpret this PR? We have the vaccine. They expect 100 million plus to be vaccinated in the next 3-4 months. We KNOW the survival rate is 98+% already. Why on earth would it still be more than 12-18 months for large gatherings?

As annoyed as I’ve been by this entire ordeal, for the life of me I can’t understand why we shouldn’t be allowed to go about business as usual in the next 5-6 months.

But I’m not an expert, as I’ve been told a bunch in the last year. ;)

Don’t know. Many people say they won’t do a vaccine? Other countries and international travel? Again, I don’t know. Good question.
 
grizindabox said:
SoldierGriz said:
And the VAST majority of people who go to gyms are not the ones in hospitals...

They recover at home.

Those in the hospitals should have stayed home without visitors...they were vulnerable and they knew it.

Reading comprehension is key.

Such as, “If you are elderly, infirm, or otherwise fall into one of the enumerated categories we told you about in March, you are vulnerable and stand an exponentially higher chance of being hospitalized with COVID, so maybe just stay home for now.”

Would’ve been nice for those people to comprehend what they’ve read 100,000 times. Maybe we could have a beer and a burger on a restaurant patio (hell, maybe even inside) if so, but, we can’t.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
Reading comprehension is key.

Such as, “If you are elderly, infirm, or otherwise fall into one of the enumerated categories we told you about in March, you are vulnerable and stand an exponentially higher chance of being hospitalized with COVID, so maybe just stay home for now.”

Would’ve been nice for those people to comprehend what they’ve read 100,000 times. Maybe we could have a beer and a burger on a restaurant patio (hell, maybe even inside) if so, but, we can’t.

Guess you didn't comprehend either.
 
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Such as, “If you are elderly, infirm, or otherwise fall into one of the enumerated categories we told you about in March, you are vulnerable and stand an exponentially higher chance of being hospitalized with COVID, so maybe just stay home for now.”

Would’ve been nice for those people to comprehend what they’ve read 100,000 times. Maybe we could have a beer and a burger on a restaurant patio (hell, maybe even inside) if so, but, we can’t.

Guess you didn't comprehend either.

Sure didn’t.
 
Was watching the news this am and a health expert was going through the list of expected side effects from the vaccine, which is essentially you get the flu, which is what catching the virus did to me, minus the pain and swelling at injection site. They didn't list loss of taste/smell so there is that bonus with the vaccine. It also appears its a 24-36 hour flu instead of 48-72 hour flu. So my advice is to get vaccinated soon so we get back to normal as quickly as possible.
 
Once the vaccine is available to everyone, it is highly probable that if you want to get on a plane, you will need proof of vaccination. I would say nearly 100% chance of it if you want to fly out of country as most countries will likely require it anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/travel/airline-news/2020/11/25/covid-19-passport-travelers-may-face-new-vaccination-requirement/6416555002/

Also, it may not surprise me if the US government may require proof of vaccination to go inside a federal building like requirement of the real id.
 
TrueGriz said:
Once the vaccine is available to everyone, it is highly probable that if you want to get on a plane, you will need proof of vaccination. I would say nearly 100% chance of it if you want to fly out of country as most countries will likely require it anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/travel/airline-news/2020/11/25/covid-19-passport-travelers-may-face-new-vaccination-requirement/6416555002/

Also, it may not surprise me if the US government may require proof of vaccination to go inside a federal building like requirement of the real id.

If you don't like watching video, here is an article on it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/11/23/vaccination-passport-qantas-looking-new-requirement-travelers/6402846002/

The links pertain to flying out of country. I am kind of speculating on my part that domestic airlines may require it on my part.
 
TrueGriz said:
Once the vaccine is available to everyone, it is highly probable that if you want to get on a plane, you will need proof of vaccination. I would say nearly 100% chance of it if you want to fly out of country as most countries will likely require it anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/travel/airline-news/2020/11/25/covid-19-passport-travelers-may-face-new-vaccination-requirement/6416555002/

Also, it may not surprise me if the US government may require proof of vaccination to go inside a federal building like requirement of the real id.

So, if said plane or Federal building is following those rules, then everybody inside is safe and protected from a foreigner that isn't vaccinated, right? The SAFE vaccine protects those people, right? Why stop that person from coming in if they are no threat to the people inside? I guess they have no faith in the vaccine after all, do they?

Bashing the government is the easiest thing to do because they are morons.

At least they are consistent in that.
 
Cuervohola said:
TrueGriz said:
Once the vaccine is available to everyone, it is highly probable that if you want to get on a plane, you will need proof of vaccination. I would say nearly 100% chance of it if you want to fly out of country as most countries will likely require it anyway.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/travel/airline-news/2020/11/25/covid-19-passport-travelers-may-face-new-vaccination-requirement/6416555002/

Also, it may not surprise me if the US government may require proof of vaccination to go inside a federal building like requirement of the real id.

So, if said plane or Federal building is following those rules, then everybody inside is safe and protected from a foreigner that isn't vaccinated, right? The SAFE vaccine protects those people, right? Why stop that person from coming in if they are no threat to the people inside? I guess they have no faith in the vaccine after all, do they?

Bashing the government is the easiest thing to do because they are morons.

At least they are consistent in that.

It is just a way to weed out the douchebags.
 
My guess is that having had the vaccine will not be necessary to get on domestic planes or get into federal buildings. Planes have proven, yet, to be significant sources of spread, especially shorter domestic flights. People need to go to federal buildings to get things done. Just don't see the US/Biden pushing that one. What about a defendant in a trial. How do you keep him out of the building if he hasn't been vaccinated? Also, witnesses.

I don't know how to encourage people to get vaccinated, but don't think either of these ideas will work or be instituted.
 
PlayerRep said:
My guess is that having had the vaccine will not be necessary to get on domestic planes or get into federal buildings. Planes have proven, yet, to be significant sources of spread, especially shorter domestic flights. People need to go to federal buildings to get things done. Just don't see the US/Biden pushing that one. What about a defendant in a trial. How do you keep him out of the building if he hasn't been vaccinated? Also, witnesses.

I don't know how to encourage people to get vaccinated, but don't think either of these ideas will work or be instituted.

I think one idea is to have every senator and congressman take it publicly now. Biden and Harris should also take it now. I would say Trump should take it too, but since he already had the virus probably not necessary.
 
ranco said:
PlayerRep said:
My guess is that having had the vaccine will not be necessary to get on domestic planes or get into federal buildings. Planes have proven, yet, to be significant sources of spread, especially shorter domestic flights. People need to go to federal buildings to get things done. Just don't see the US/Biden pushing that one. What about a defendant in a trial. How do you keep him out of the building if he hasn't been vaccinated? Also, witnesses.

I don't know how to encourage people to get vaccinated, but don't think either of these ideas will work or be instituted.

I think one idea is to have every senator and congressman take it publicly now. Biden and Harris should also take it now. I would say Trump should take it too, but since he already had the virus probably not necessary.

I don't think anyone knows how long the vaccine is going to be good for, and certainly do not know how long a person that had it may be immune for.

Vaccine may actually provide longer term protection than having had the disease.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Cuervohola said:
So, if said plane or Federal building is following those rules, then everybody inside is safe and protected from a foreigner that isn't vaccinated, right? The SAFE vaccine protects those people, right? Why stop that person from coming in if they are no threat to the people inside? I guess they have no faith in the vaccine after all, do they?

Bashing the government is the easiest thing to do because they are morons.

At least they are consistent in that.

It is just a way to weed out the douchebags.

Well, if you have faith in an industry that can kill you with every single drug they put out, even antacid, and that is on the normal schedule while the vaccine is rushed by 4 plus years, have fun with that!

You know those plastic gallon Ice Cream buckets? Keep one in case you need something to drool in.
 
ranco said:
PlayerRep said:
My guess is that having had the vaccine will not be necessary to get on domestic planes or get into federal buildings. Planes have proven, yet, to be significant sources of spread, especially shorter domestic flights. People need to go to federal buildings to get things done. Just don't see the US/Biden pushing that one. What about a defendant in a trial. How do you keep him out of the building if he hasn't been vaccinated? Also, witnesses.

I don't know how to encourage people to get vaccinated, but don't think either of these ideas will work or be instituted.

I think one idea is to have every senator and congressman take it publicly now. Biden and Harris should also take it now. I would say Trump should take it too, but since he already had the virus probably not necessary.

They would just give them the placebo. People behind the scenes don't take the company swill, just like people that work in a hot dog factory will never eat one because they know what's in it.
 
TrueGriz said:
ranco said:
I think one idea is to have every senator and congressman take it publicly now. Biden and Harris should also take it now. I would say Trump should take it too, but since he already had the virus probably not necessary.

I don't think anyone knows how long the vaccine is going to be good for, and certainly do not know how long a person that had it may be immune for.

Vaccine may actually provide longer term protection than having had the disease.

Yes, lots of unknowns on long term protection from either having had the virus or from getting the vaccine. However, If I get the virus before the vaccine is available, I won't be getting the vaccine any time soon - if ever.
 
Damn, just as I said that the people behind the scenes don't partake in the company swill, Ding Ding Ding!

The Pfizer CEO won't take it!

HAHAHAHA... NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!

https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/pfizer-ceo-explains-why-hes-yet-to-take-covid-19-vaccine/
 
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