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New University president?
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There are pockets of racism in every city and state. You can't legislate away morals (or the lack thereof).
Maybe a BSU associate AD?
That's who I assumed he was referring to as well but he made it sound like more than just him. Not sure how he would know anything any way.
MontanaGrizSoccer
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Boise Sports talk, talking about Dr Shinn possibly leaving and taking with him either:
Deputy Athletic Director, External Affairs & BroncoPRO Chief Administrative Officer
Senior Associate Athletic Director, Athletics Personnel Services and Athletics Chief of Staff
Assistant Athletic Director, Compliance
5280Griz
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True but there are more likely to be pockets of racism in cities and states where one race is over 85% of the population, such as Montana being 88.7% non Hispanic/Latino white according to the US Census.
Here's Deputy AD Cody Gougler's bio. Southeastern Louisiana alum but has worked at Air Force, Baylor, and Boise State. Looks like he's still relatively young in his mid to late 30s.
Cody Gougler - Deputy Athletic Director, External Affairs & BroncoPRO Chief Administrative Officer - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
Cody Gougler joined the Boise State athletic staff in July 2021 and is currently the Deputy Athletic Director for External Affairs and BroncoPro Administrati...
The Chief of Staff is Heather Berry and she's been with BSU since 2006 and played Basketball for BSU before joining the athletic department. She looks like a BSU lifer so IDK if she would come to UM unless she just really like Shinn.
Heather Berry - Senior Associate Athletic Director, Athletics Personnel Services and Athletics Chief of Staff - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
Heather Berry was promoted to Senior Associate Athletic Director, Athletics Personnel Services and Athletics Chief of Staff in September of 2022. She had bee...
The Compliance Director is Jenny Bellomy and she's also been with BSU for 20+ years. So IDK if this one is likely either.
Jenny Bellomy - Assistant Athletic Director, Compliance - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
eMail Jenny Bellomy
alabamagrizzly
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Not true. I grew up in Missoula when it was probably 90-95% white and never experienced any type of racism spoken amongst the collective whites. Moving to Alabama with a 69:25:7 ratio was shocking and eye opening to just how much racism is alive and well outside of Montana. I wanted my wife to make me a shirt that says "Just cus im white like you, doesn't mean im racist like you" but she wont cus i think shes afraid ill wear it to family gatherings.
I was thinking this guy.Here's Deputy AD Cody Gougler's bio. Southeastern Louisiana alum but has worked at Air Force, Baylor, and Boise State. Looks like he's still relatively young in his mid to late 30s.
Cody Gougler - Deputy Athletic Director, External Affairs & BroncoPRO Chief Administrative Officer - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
Cody Gougler joined the Boise State athletic staff in July 2021 and is currently the Deputy Athletic Director for External Affairs and BroncoPro Administrati...broncosports.com
The Chief of Staff is Heather Berry and she's been with BSU since 2006 and played Basketball for BSU before joining the athletic department. She looks like a BSU lifer so IDK if she would come to UM unless she just really like Shinn.
Heather Berry - Senior Associate Athletic Director, Athletics Personnel Services and Athletics Chief of Staff - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
Heather Berry was promoted to Senior Associate Athletic Director, Athletics Personnel Services and Athletics Chief of Staff in September of 2022. She had bee...
The Compliance Director is Jenny Bellomy and she's also been with BSU for 20+ years. So IDK if this one is likely either.
Jenny Bellomy - Assistant Athletic Director, Compliance - Staff Directory - Boise State University Athletics
eMail Jenny Bellomy
Mullen Named Associate AD, Development - Boise State University Athletics
BOISE, Idaho - Austin Mullen has been named the new Associate Athletic Director of Development for Boise State Athletics. In his role, he will oversee the ma...
Do you have a link to the episode? I'd like to hear it.
Discussing this with a few others over the past few weeks. Taught in two rural schools in Montana, one in Idaho and now in California. Always have made the argument, high school kids are almost universally the same. Ignorance in Montana is the same as it is in Idaho and in California. Ignorance, hatred and racism is genetic. Passed down from one generation to the next and location doesn't matter.
Schooling was meant to break that chain, but now that we've emboldened ignorance as a positive trait and with it ethnocentric beliefs, we've created culture of isolated ignorance that isn't limited to outposts of realm. Its not like the Cliven/Ammon Bundy stuff or Freemen/Montana Militia is new or simply pawned on conservative rural types. There was a lot of academic study done about this in late 90's after the OKC bombing with the out migration of Okies to urban centers of California during the 1930's (think Grapes of Wrath). During 80's and 90's there was a spite of KKK type groups in suburban areas (think American History X) and some it had infiltrated LEA's in LA, Orange and San Diego counties as well as Central Valley California (Modesto/Bakersfield). Some of that stuff was just as virulent as the stuff we saw out of white pride groups in Northern Idaho, anti-government groups in Montana that popped up in the same time period.
That is neither here nor there, but it is a tradition. If you are bored there are two texts from the 90's that are pretty illuminating (Rural Radicals-Catherine McNichol Stock and Harvest of Rage -Joel Dyer) and how you can get the diffusion of ignorance into places you wouldn't expect. There is a ton more modern texts but these are two of early foundations of the study. Pretty fascinating stuff.
5280Griz
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I’ve not lived in Alabama but from what I have heard is that it is pretty segregated making it not diverse at all on a neighborhood level. Alabama also has a long history of racism dating back to slavery. States around the same age of Montana with a lot more diversity like California and Arizona would be a more appropriate comparison.
... ... ... You think that California and Arizona have no pockets of racism?!
5280Griz
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Everywhere has pockets of racism I just think it is more likely where the population on the neighborhood level is 85% or more the same race.
alabamagrizzly
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The only segregation that goes on now is economic, concerning the inner city neighborhoods and the "Black Belt" as its called here. All of the big cities which make up about 70% of the population are at most 60(w):30(b):10(o). Even the most outspokenly racist small towns like Cullman and Arab have had an influx of non whites moving in the last 10-15 years with minimal race issues. Just 20 years ago Cullman had a big sign at the city limits warning black people to not be in town when the sun set. The racism that I see today isn't an open hatred like it may have been just a couple of decades ago but a closet distrust from both sides. One side distrust out of fear cus of the difference in the two. The other side distrusts cus of the years of open hatred that they lived through from the other side. Im guessing you can decipher which side is which.
alabamagrizzly
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I would actually assume the opposite. The more people like you in an area, the less you worry about the few that aren't like you. The racists beleifs begin when one population of people feels they need to fear the other population of people.
5280Griz
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Among my neighbors in Arizona there is a white engineer with Intel from Colorado, a black executive for a top 30 bank in the country from Ohio and an Asian medical device financial executive from Illinois. None of them are from Arizona and even though they are different races they have similar upper middle class lifestyles with career and family mindsets. Being in an environment where there are people from many different ethnicities but beyond that they are similar to you in my view is an ideal environment to see beyond race.
5280Griz
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Vestavia Hills has gotten more diverse but it is still over 80% white. Mosses Alabama on the other hand is 96% black. Neither is diverse.
alabamagrizzly
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thats not a true representation of the issue that is brought to the table.
alabamagrizzly
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Congratulations on your cherry picking abilities. You picked the richest white neighborhood and the poorsrt black neighborhood as your representations of diversity.
