NDSU defense vs Sac St offense

[Bison fan in NW MN]

Yes our defense sucked pretty bad today but let's face it... Sac's offense put on a clinic moving at will. Even NDSU's behemoth defense would have likely given up 20-30 points today.

That said... someone better figure out a solution. Without those three turnovers we would have likely lost by 17+ pts today.

I don't think Sac St. would break 20 against NDSU. The Hornets would get rolled.

This here.... :thumb:

Teams that have strong running games are the ones that give the Bison the most trouble. D2 Ferris State has run for the most yards against the Bison this year.....they ran the veer option out of the pistol set....kind of a cool offense to see; and their QB was like 6-5 and 235.

Don't really agree with this:
NDSU Defensive Stats for the year:
32 Rushing 1st downs vs. 65 Passing
78 Rushing yards/game vs 165 passing
They only give up 2.6 yards per rush
SDSU's Zenner averages 137 per game and NDSU held the whole team to NEGATIVE 32 yards rushing for the game.
As a Bison Fan, NDSU's pass defense worries me way more than the rushing defense

Like I said, strong running teams give the Bison the most fits. That 78 yds/game rushing is good and that is with Ferris State running for 228. Teams cannot run consistently so they pass more often. The pass defense is very good also. But teams like Wofford and Georgia Southern that have power rushing attacks really give the Bison trouble. See playoff stats from last year.

I hope the Bison get matched up with teams like EIU and EWU that just throw the ball everywhere. It lets our athletic and fast D-Line tee-off and get after the QB.

The reason SHSU has done so well against the Big Sky is that none of the teams they have faced has had a ball controlled offense except Cal Poly. SHSU loves to turn games into track meets. The Bison pound them with TOP and beat the sh** out of them. They scored almost 50 on EWU last year....the Bison gave up a total of 19 points in 2 games against them.

Defense wins championships

:thumb:

 

[George Ferguson]

How has a team who has won the last two FCS championships and is unbeaten this season, and has a defense like they have "proven to be beatable"??? There are no what-if's in football, no do-over's. The W is all that matters. So far in 2013 the Bizon have actually proven to be unbeatable BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T LOST.

I'm not in love with NDSU like Alpha is, but when UM, MSU, EWU, Sam Houston posters talk about how the Bizon are beatable, it's actually an act of desperation because they know deep down inside, their team CAN'T beat NDSU.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

For the record, you guys are making me "in love with NDSU". I am just being honest and most of you cant deal with the truth.

I am impartial to NDSU

 

[FargoBison]

Yes our defense sucked pretty bad today but let's face it... Sac's offense put on a clinic moving at will. Even NDSU's behemoth defense would have likely given up 20-30 points today.

That said... someone better figure out a solution. Without those three turnovers we would have likely lost by 17+ pts today.

NDSU could shut that team out.......don't kid yourself. You may be more wrong than any post on this sites history

NDSU is great, but they've given up some points this year (e.g. vs UNI and Missouri St, NDSU gave up a combined 49 points), and have proven to be beatable. I'm guessing they would have surrendered less than 48 points though. Sac would have put up 17 to 28 on them IMO.

Missouri State scored 26 points vs us...1 TD from a pick six and 1 TD in garbage time at the end of the game.

UNI gave us a heck of game, they had a pretty salty team until all the injuries started to pile on for them. Their best defensive player had a really gruesome injury in that game.

As for the theory that rushing teams give us more trouble I disagree. Balanced teams have always been a bigger threat. EWU had balance...YSU when they beat us a few years ago had balance. UNI is always pretty balanced.

Teams like Wofford or even Ferris State that run option are going to pile up yards on the ground because that is all they do....both though failed to pile up points. GSU had the most success but when that team gets going running the ball nobody in the FCS is close to what they can do.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Name one team that has "track meeted" that defense in the last 3 years?

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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[ilovethecats]

I'm not in love with NDSU like Alpha is, but when UM, MSU, EWU, Sam Houston posters talk about how the Bizon are beatable, it's actually an act of desperation because they know deep down inside, their team CAN'T beat NDSU.

so you're suggesting the season should just be over? if ndsu is in fact unbeatable than why are we even still playing? call it a season and let's get to some hoops.

 

[FargoBison]

Name one team that has "track meeted" that defense in the last 3 years?

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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I'm not sure that the offense is average anymore. The stats certainly no longer back that up.

 

[nzone]

Upsets happen....ndsu will be very difficult to beat tho.

 

[THE HERD]

NDSU is far from unbeatable, but it will take a complete team offensively and defensively to get the job done, unless its a two to three plus turn over type of game for the Bison. UNI was that type of team when we played them, but Kollmorgen had his lowest completion percentage of the year to that point in that game and also threw his first INT of the season. He was harassed and hit the whole game, not sacked too many times, but everytime he let the ball go he was taking hard hits and I believe he got concussed late in that game. My point is that these high power passing attacks like EIU and EWU, better be able to pass block. If you can do that and get us to have to blitz to get to the QB then you'll have something going, cuz most of the time we are getting pressure with our front four, which makes it very tough to find passing lanes. A team also needs at least a respectable run game, becuase if your one dimensional then the Dline can really tee off and then factor in the FargoDome noise and you have problems. Adams for EWU could be an exception with the run game, because he can make things happen with his feet as well, so he could make up for a lack of a running game possibly. The other thing a team needs to beat us is a strong run D.....I don't care how great your offense is, if you can't stop us from running they won't be on the field too much.

 

[Bison Dan]

Name one team that has "track meeted" that defense in the last 3 years?

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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Average Offense?? Really you didn't see the last 8 minutes of the KS game? Would an average offense do that against last years BIG12 champs? Just becasuse they're not flashly and aren't pass happy doesn't mean they don't give defenses fits.

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Name one team that has "track meeted" that defense in the last 3 years?

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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Average Offense?? Really you didn't see the last 8 minutes of the KS game? Would an average offense do that against last years BIG12 champs? Just becasuse they're not flashly and aren't pass happy doesn't mean they don't give defenses fits.

What would you say about a defense that is ranked #34? You would not so average you would say they suck.

Well you are ranked #34 in total offense with 34 offensive TDs you are average


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[Bison Dan]

Name one team that has "track meeted" that defense in the last 3 years?

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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Average Offense?? Really you didn't see the last 8 minutes of the KS game? Would an average offense do that against last years BIG12 champs? Just becasuse they're not flashly and aren't pass happy doesn't mean they don't give defenses fits.

What would you say about a defense that is ranked #34? You would not so average you would say they suck.

Well you are ranked #34 in total offense with 34 offensive TDs you are average


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Yeah that stat means little. If we were in another conference it would probaby be alot higher. Since you like stat's I looked up the teams leading in passing and rushing. Here are some teams in the top 10. Cal Poly-Portland St.- Idaho St- Campbell-Alabama St-Mercer-Cornell-Jacksonville-San Diego. Get the point? None of these teams will be in the playoffs and most play in conferences where Defense is an after thought. Some of these teams I have never heard of. Fact is when we need a TD we get one..

 

[Robsnotes4u]

Their conference doesn't "track meet". They are built on stopping the run. I would say I have been to many more games and watched more than anyone who is on egriz besides an occasional bison fan. Was at both Wofford and GSU playoff games. Both games could have went either way, 6 and 3 points. I one definitely should have

A team, like an EIU, can put them in a situation where their average offense can not recover from. Yes their run defense is fantastic.

Even scarier is Towson, great QB and West is a great back





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Average Offense?? Really you didn't see the last 8 minutes of the KS game? Would an average offense do that against last years BIG12 champs? Just becasuse they're not flashly and aren't pass happy doesn't mean they don't give defenses fits.

What would you say about a defense that is ranked #34? You would not so average you would say they suck.

Well you are ranked #34 in total offense with 34 offensive TDs you are average


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Yeah that stat means little. If we were in another conference it would probaby be alot higher. Since you like stat's I looked up the teams leading in passing and rushing. Here are some teams in the top 10. Cal Poly-Portland St.- Idaho St- Campbell-Alabama St-Mercer-Cornell-Jacksonville-San Diego. Get the point? None of these teams will be in the playoffs and most play in conferences where Defense is an after thought. Some of these teams I have never heard of. Fact is when we need a TD we get one..

Only means little if doesn't show NDSU as #1.


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